Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama
It doesn't matter when he said it, unless he says other wise the 3rd is strongest.
Who said Hiruzen was the strongest???
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TouchMyMangos
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Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama
I laugh at other people's opinions. They laugh at the manga. Nuff said.
I laugh at other people's opinions. They laugh at the manga. Nuff said.
saaaaaadpanda
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Everything's inconclusive especially since we've never seen either of them fighting at their primes. Using Madara to justify Hashirama's superiority over Hiruzen is indirect BS. If you want Hashi to be stronger, go ahead and believe it. Same goes for Hiruzen. It's never going to be conclusively proven. Let it go.
Everything's inconclusive especially since we've never seen either of them fighting at their primes. Using Madara to justify Hashirama's superiority over Hiruzen is indirect BS. If you want Hashi to be stronger, go ahead and believe it. Same goes for Hiruzen. It's never going to be conclusively proven. Let it go.
Unorthodox
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where did it say they wasit at full power?
IzunaUchiha2
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ninjastormgenaration33
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1.Orochimaru was toying with Hiruzen
2.Hash&Tobi was not at full strength
So please don't say defeated them both,and technically speaking it was a draw because he had to kill himself in the process
1.Orochimaru was toying with Hiruzen
2.Hash&Tobi was not at full strength
So please don't say defeated them both,and technically speaking it was a draw because he had to kill himself in the process
Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama
When somebody can tell me what Hiruzen can do to this:
Then I'll think Hiruzen > Hashi
Otherwise it shouldn't even be an argument anymore
When somebody can tell me what Hiruzen can do to this:
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Then I'll think Hiruzen > Hashi
Otherwise it shouldn't even be an argument anymore
Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama
But I'd like to say something about the bolded, red part. We never saw Hiruzen fighting with his full power, hè never went all out. You can say he went all out against Orochi, but hè was old and his chakra reserve was incredibly small.
But for the rest, Hiruzen would be able to defend himself for à while, but hè is not stront enough to beat Madara.
I think you're right. People should accept the word "change". And Madara said it himself that only Hashirama could beat him.
But I'd like to say something about the bolded, red part. We never saw Hiruzen fighting with his full power, hè never went all out. You can say he went all out against Orochi, but hè was old and his chakra reserve was incredibly small.
But for the rest, Hiruzen would be able to defend himself for à while, but hè is not stront enough to beat Madara.
Unorthodox
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POST A MAnga where they said they wasit a full power?
does hashi has that jutsu? and how does hashi beat that ?
Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama
It's clear to me that people who say Hiruzen > Hashirama are in denial. They always say "Manga > Everything you just said." The truth is that the Manga is indeed > Everything anyone says, but if you're talking about something that was stated in the Manga a long time ago then you're like a petty teenage girl that can't accept even the most obvious and basic things. In conclusion: Hashirama > 10 Hiruzens.
It's clear to me that people who say Hiruzen > Hashirama are in denial. They always say "Manga > Everything you just said." The truth is that the Manga is indeed > Everything anyone says, but if you're talking about something that was stated in the Manga a long time ago then you're like a petty teenage girl that can't accept even the most obvious and basic things. In conclusion: Hashirama > 10 Hiruzens.
Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama
Has he actually said his opinions changed about who was the strongest Hokage? Unless he said he changed his opinion you're trying to argue with fact.
ninjastormgenaration33
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+Rep 1, Hiruzen couldn't do shit against Kyuubi,so what makes you think he could beat that gaint monstrous Sasuno
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Do you even know who killed Madara? It was Hashirama
Madara was beaten by Hashirama before hè died, so Madara has certainly used that jutsu and Hashirama still beated him.
Do you even know who killed Madara? It was Hashirama
ninjastormgenaration33
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Wood Style could easily keep it contained
Crazyleggs24
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if you really think Hiruzen can beat the 1st and 2nd hokages togrther at full strength then... :flaw:
Unorthodox
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well hiruzen already won hashi fanboys need to give it up
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He wasn't saying that Hashi has that jutsu. But it is assumed that Hashi went up against that, so some people are wondering how Hiruzen would handle that. I'm just waiting for a flashback on the battle or something before I can put my opinion out there on this topic though. xd
Re: Somebody Explain Why Hiruzen>Hashirama
This again? The truth is, Hiruzen was called the strongest Hokage. And Hashirama's hype has not actually compromised this. People keep arguing that Hiruzen can't do anything to Madara etc but that is pointless for a number of reasons;
- Kishi has yet to reveal Prime Hiruzen's true power
- A>B>C logic is futile in Naruto.
The wise man would sit back and wait for Kishi to make his move. At this moment in time, Kishi has done nothing to suggest that Hiruzen's original hype is incorrect. If he was the the strongest Hokage, then HE was the strongest Hokage. Hashirama can be a fairytale etc but this doesn't mean Hiruzen's true power was not equal if not greater than this. Remember, part 1 power levels were different to part 2. If you disagree, then I take it you think Deidara > everyone in part 1.
That, is the truth.
This again? The truth is, Hiruzen was called the strongest Hokage. And Hashirama's hype has not actually compromised this. People keep arguing that Hiruzen can't do anything to Madara etc but that is pointless for a number of reasons;
- Kishi has yet to reveal Prime Hiruzen's true power
- A>B>C logic is futile in Naruto.
The wise man would sit back and wait for Kishi to make his move. At this moment in time, Kishi has done nothing to suggest that Hiruzen's original hype is incorrect. If he was the the strongest Hokage, then HE was the strongest Hokage. Hashirama can be a fairytale etc but this doesn't mean Hiruzen's true power was not equal if not greater than this. Remember, part 1 power levels were different to part 2. If you disagree, then I take it you think Deidara > everyone in part 1.
That, is the truth.