Jiraya is the most overrated character

[Kyuubikiller]

- Never thought of it that way with the chakra recievers. I guess his approach might have been different all the way if he had any info on Pein, but saying he would defeat Pein with all 6 present is just crazy. He had trouble dealing with 3paths and the strongest path Deva was not present and didn't use any of his powers against Jiraya.

- Jiraya never gave much info on Akatsuki so it's likely he didn't know much about them aside from Itachi who was already well known in the leaf. The Akatsuki was pretty much a mystery to everyone and no one knew anything about anyones powers in their first encounters.

-Itachi doesn't need to close his eyes to use his Mangeykou sharigan and so what if he does? No one notices besides us when he slowly closes his eyes to use Tysukomi . Jiraya is already disadvantage of fighting Itachi while only looking at his feet and body. Itachi can still place Jiraya in a genjutsu that tricked more powerful Sm users.(Kabuto) Itachi has other ways than his MS powers to defeat Jiraya and that goes without saying.

- Orochimaru was stronger than Jiraya but that is just my opinion. This thread isn't so much about them. If they both were fighting with the intent to kill one of them would be dead right now.

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On the first bold: No one knowing about Akatsuki the organization is true, but saying they didn't know about the people in the organization is stupid. Kisame is probably one of the most known S-class ninjas because he, among other people are in the bingo book, you fail at saying no one knew his abilities.

Itachi doesn't need to close his eyes to activate MS?? Are you stupid or are you stupid? lol He does have to close his eyes, not saying Jiraiya can take advantage of that, but others might be able to (cough cough Minato).

Itachi's only way of defeating Jiraiya is if he uses MS, do not downplay Jiraiya as if he is some fodder smdh Itachi would certainly loose if he doesn't use MS, that's plain and simple.

Last bold, just your opinion.

 

[Dantee]

On the first bold: No one knowing about Akatsuki the organization is true, but saying they didn't know about the people in the organization is stupid. Kisame is probably one of the most known S-class ninjas because he, among other people are in the bingo book, you fail at saying no one knew his abilities.

Itachi doesn't need to close his eyes to activate MS?? Are you stupid or are you stupid? lol He does have to close his eyes, not saying Jiraiya can take advantage of that, but others might be able to (cough cough Minato).

Itachi's only way of defeating Jiraiya is if he uses MS, do not downplay Jiraiya as if he is some fodder smdh Itachi would certainly loose if he doesn't use MS, that's plain and simple.

Last bold, just your opinion.

Last thing I'll say about Orochimaru and Jiraya. I don't care. They might be equal or not but my opinon Oro was stronger. People saying Jiraya > Oro was not what made me make this thread,

Itachi doesn't need to close his eyes. He activated Amaterasu without doing it and who cares if he fricken blinks to activate it?? Will Jiraya know? Uhh no. It's not that big of a deal. People are acting like this is the greatest weak point of all time. That Jiraya will 1 hit him by the time he opens his eyes. xd

Akatsuki also have nothing to do with this thread. So just more fail coming from your post. You pointed out flaws in my post that have nothing to do with this thread. Fact I was trying to point out that Jiraya didn't know much about the people in Akatsuki as you might think he did.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

Last thing I'll say about Orochimaru and Jiraya. I don't care. They might be equal or not but my opinon Oro was stronger. People saying Jiraya > Oro was not what made me make this thread,

Itachi doesn't need to close his eyes. He activated Amaterasu without doing it and who cares if he fricken blinks to activate it?? Will Jiraya know? Uhh no. It's not that big of a deal. People are acting like this is the greatest weak point of all time. That Jiraya will 1 hit him by the time he opens his eyes. xd

Akatsuki also have nothing to do with this thread. So just more fail coming from your post. You pointed out flaws in my post that have nothing to do with this thread. Fact I was trying to point out that Jiraya didn't know much about the people in Akatsuki as you might think he did.

You're whole post is just stupid, you completely ignored the fact that I'm only responding to what you said, therefore, you saying anything I said has nothing to do with this thread is irrelevant because it does, if you bring it up, it has something to do with this thread smdh I'm not going to run in circles with you, it's obvious you're too slow to comprehend even the speed of a sloth, so this is where I make my leave, goodbye sir, and I hope your idiotic mind gains a little intelligence.

 

[Dantee]

You're whole post is just stupid, you completely ignored the fact that I'm only responding to what you said, therefore, you saying anything I said has nothing to do with this thread is irrelevant because it does, if you bring it up, it has something to do with this thread smdh I'm not going to run in circles with you, it's obvious you're too slow to comprehend even the speed of a sloth, so this is where I make my leave, goodbye sir, and I hope your idiotic mind gains a little intelligence.

ROFL you reply to something that has nothing to do with you. It was to another person and he was the one that brung it up. If you actually took the time to read his argument and then mine you would see that.

Here I will show you the door to exiting your browser since I know you probably have a hard time seeing the red x on the right corner of your screen.

 

[naruttebayo]

Probably next to Minato I'd say Jiraya is the most overrated. First I'd like to say I do acknowledge his powers and achievements as a Sannin and a teacher. But it seems people like to overhype his powers and abilities sometimes.


Peins hype-

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I think this is the page that has got everyone overhyped about his abilities.

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Seriously? xd Jiraya beating Pein. Jiraya had difficulty before sage mode just dealing with the Animal Paths. The environment also was made up of hiding places to allow him to enter sage mode.

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If Pein has started with all 6 or just the DEVA PATH Jiraya would have not lasted 5 minutes.

They way I interpret this page was that if Jiraya knew our secret maybe he would have got his ass out of here and looked for the real Nagato.

Kisame's hype-

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People are taking this statement the completely wrong way. Kisame and Itachi knew nothing about Jirayas abilities. Kisame was just going off Jirayas hype as a Sannin. I cannot stress this enough.

Noted: Itachi already defeated Orochimaru, a Sannin when he was 13 and imo was ≥ to Jiraya.

Jiraya can in no way beat Itachi. Especially without sage mode. No naming for the fact Jiraya has nothing to counter OP Susanno, Amaterasu and Tsyukomi. Jiraya has no experience battling with a sharigan user especially on Itachi's level.

How will Jiraya even fight him with just staring at his feet. :sy:

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This goes for Sasuke as well.

Kisame well this battle can go either way. However I believe Kisame has the upperhand, but this is debatable.

One other silly thing I heard was that Jiraya can touch people and they turn to frogs. Not exactly. I won't even bother posting manga pages because it's such a simple thing to understand. Jiraya had to transfer sage mode chakra into his targets by grasping them and focusing.

It is not as easy as a simple "touch". Which is not something an opponent above fodder would just let him do.

I think I've countered his hype pretty well. In no way am I trying to downplay his abilities, but he is not current top 10 now IMO. Saying he would win against characters like Pein, Sasuke, Naruto and Itachi is what forced me to make this thread.

not true
with sage mode naruto defeated many of pain body
i know naruto's sage mode is better but jiraiya had a big arsenal of varieties of jutsu , also he was more experienced .

 

[Shamami]

I have to disagree about Jman being overrated. Still to date he is one of the top ten most powerful ninjas of the anime. I say this because Jman had a jutsu for just about any situation. Look at the Pein fight. He countered everything Pein had in that fight up until his death, and might I add he died only because he wanted to get info back to the leaf. Lets be serious he didn't even get touched until he thought he had killed the three Peins. Thats damn impressive considering all that he had to deal with in that fight. He could have easily escaped. Without that info even Naruto would not have been able to defeat Pein. And the question of what would happen if he fought Itachi has been answered since the beginning of the Naruto series. Itachi stated himself after he and Kisame ran from Jman that if both him and Kisame fought Jman Kisame would not even be a factor in the fight. And the best case scenario for the outcome of the fight would be that both Jman and Itachi kill each other. I think that proves that Jman is not overrated at all. Give him his props

Itachi also stated that if they were to bring more men the outcome wouldnt change.

So lets assume that itachi brings all akatsuki members vs j-man ........j-man wud still win.........R U FKING KIDDING ME

NOTE: ITACHI WAS KNOWN TO BE A LIER SO DONT TAKE ANYTHING HE SAYS SO RELIABALY.

 

[NakedNinja]

Jman is overrated, his fights were #weak. He fight Oro w/ no arms using taijustu alone and didnt own #fail.

when jman fought oro with the 5th he was poisoned and didnt even use sage mode and jman is alot like naruto when he fights oro he doent want to kill or even hurt him like naruto and saskue. try fighting someone u dont want to hurt and they are tryin to kill u even if u r stronger it makes it harder

 

[Rozzy]

How could you possibly say that he is over rated when Itachi and pain said it themselves that he would beat them (if he had knowledge on pain) :shrug:

 

[minatoisagod]

i wouldn't say overrated but he is not in the top 10 though

 

[aznbkmami]

Jiraiya isn't overhyped, what Pain said was true, he'd most likely have lost were he facing Jiraiya with knowledge(he lost to another sage who had knowledge) and we all saw how easily Kisame was defeated and needed Itachi's help for escape. And you forgot Minato's 'there's no ninja as great as you' hype.

i completely agree with you. jiraya fought all pains at once... naruto did not/could not (i.e., help from gambi, etc). furthermore, jiraya continued to fight, in order to extract intel; he's wasn't fighting to win. if he had tried to win, he probably could have. jiraya is underrated, but is not top 5. i'd say... top 15. :scorps:

 

[Unorthodox]

he not overrated