Jiraya is the most overrated character
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You're right, Jiraiya is the most overrated character, more so then Itachi and Minato 
Anyway, there are many more characters that are way more overrated then him, never seen a thread saying Jiraiya can beat the so6p (cough cough Itachi fans).
Anyway, you probably just hate Jiraiya, so I wont pay you any attention, believe what you want, I will always believe Jiraiya is match for Itachi, my beliefs, and if you think I'm overrating him for having a logical opinion, then go screw yourself.
Anyway, there are many more characters that are way more overrated then him, never seen a thread saying Jiraiya can beat the so6p (cough cough Itachi fans).
Anyway, you probably just hate Jiraiya, so I wont pay you any attention, believe what you want, I will always believe Jiraiya is match for Itachi, my beliefs, and if you think I'm overrating him for having a logical opinion, then go screw yourself.
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lmfaoYou're right, Jiraiya is the most overrated character, more so then Itachi and Minato
Anyway, there are many more characters that are way more overrated then him, never seen a thread saying Jiraiya can beat the so6p (cough cough Itachi fans).
Anyway, you probably just hate Jiraiya, so I wont pay you any attention, believe what you want, I will always believe Jiraiya is match for Itachi, my beliefs, and if you think I'm overrating him for having a logical opinion, then go screw yourself.
You're right, Jiraiya is the most overrated character, more so then Itachi and Minato
Anyway, there are many more characters that are way more overrated then him, never seen a thread saying Jiraiya can beat the so6p (cough cough Itachi fans).
Anyway, you probably just hate Jiraiya, so I wont pay you any attention, believe what you want, I will always believe Jiraiya is match for Itachi, my beliefs, and if you think I'm overrating him for having a logical opinion, then go screw yourself.
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look what you wrote their and think about it again...
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i barely see someone overrating jiraiya
dont know what you mean
Yes Jiraiya can be overrated but so can many characters, some of you're proves wre either false or lack some info. First you have to remember that Jiraiya gathered some info on Pein before and knew he was a dangerous enemy since he beat Hanzo so if he knew Pein's secret then the appoarch he took would have been different. As as for the turing people into frogs with a touch, all Jiraiya has to do is the required hand seal then place his hand on the enemy and poof. The anime shows how fast this happens. Also Ever thought That Pein meant that Jiraiya would have destroyed the chakra recievers that was in the 3 Pein's he killed to prevent those bodies from being revived. Also Jiraiya was surprised attacked by the other 3 bodies because he lowered his guard thinking he won but I don't see that happening to him if he was still on guard (SM sensory ability).Probably next to Minato I'd say Jiraya is the most overrated. First I'd like to say I do acknowledge his powers and achievements as a Sannin and a teacher. But it seems people like to overhype his powers and abilities sometimes.
Peins hype-
I think this is the page that has got everyone overhyped about his abilities.
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Seriously? xd Jiraya beating Pein. Jiraya had difficulty before sage mode just dealing with the Animal Paths. The environment also was made up of hiding places to allow him to enter sage mode.
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If Pein has started with all 6 or just the DEVA PATH Jiraya would have not lasted 5 minutes.
They way I interpret this page was that if Jiraya knew our secret maybe he would have got his ass out of here and looked for the real Nagato.
Kisame's hype-
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People are taking this statement the completely wrong way. Kisame and Itachi knew nothing about Jirayas abilities. Kisame was just going off Jirayas hype as a Sannin. I cannot stress this enough.
Noted: Itachi already defeated Orochimaru, a Sannin when he was 13 and imo was ≥ to Jiraya.
Jiraya can in no way beat Itachi. Especially without sage mode. No naming for the fact Jiraya has nothing to counter OP Susanno, Amaterasu and Tsyukomi. Jiraya has no experience battling with a sharigan user especially on Itachi's level.
How will Jiraya even fight him with just staring at his feet. :sy:
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This goes for Sasuke as well.
Kisame well this battle can go either way. However I believe Kisame has the upperhand, but this is debatable.
One other silly thing I heard was that Jiraya can touch people and they turn to frogs.
It is not as easy as a simple "touch". Which is not something an opponent above fodder would just let him do.
I think I've countered his hype pretty well. In no way am I trying to downplay his abilities, but he is not current top 10 now IMO. Saying he would win against characters like Pein, Sasuke, Naruto and Itachi is what forced me to make this thread.
As for Itachi and Kisame, Jiraiya spied on Akatsuki and Orochimaru so he most likely know more about their abilities then they knew about his. Remember how Jiraiya gathered info about Pein, What makes you think he didn't do the same for Itachi and Kisame? He told Kakashi about them so he would have done his research. Jiraiya is the reason why Konoha ad other villages knows about Akatsuki, he said this himself " I already infomed the other villages about Akatsuki".
Jiraiya knew about Tsukuyomi but didn't know about the other 2 MS jutsu or at least not Amaterasu. But People thing Itachi would just spam his MS against a high level enemy, he would await for the right moment or as a last resort. Itachi can't afford to make a mistake with his MS because he would suffer from the MS side effects plus his disease. Jiraiya Has ways to block Amaterasu (clones and earth jutsus) and Sasunoo (swamp of the underworld and maybe his oil+fire+wind combo). For Tsukuyomi Itachi has to make direct eye contact which can be avoided since itachi tends to close his eyes before use. Jiraiya already showed he's skilled in breaking regular genjutsus.
P.S. Itachi wasn't 13 when Orochimaru attacked him, look at how Itachi looks like while he attacked the village and when Orchimaru attacked him, he looks older. Also Orohimaru wasn't stronger, it's the same as Sasuke vs. Naruto at the valley of the ends. Jiraiya/Naruto were not fighting with the intent to kill like Sasuke/Orochimaru, they simply wanted to bring them back to the village. Orochimaru was careless and focus on gaining power when he try to attack Itachi. Jiraiya he said to Orochimaru that "the power of a shinobi comes from the power a shinobi has in themselves and not by the amount of jutsus one has". Plus We've seen Jiraiya will himself back to life after dying unlike any other character.
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- Never thought of it that way with the chakra recievers. I guess his approach might have been different all the way if he had any info on Pein, but saying he would defeat Pein with all 6 present is just crazy. He had trouble dealing with 3paths and the strongest path Deva was not present and didn't use any of his powers against Jiraya.
- Jiraya never gave much info on Akatsuki so it's likely he didn't know much about them aside from Itachi who was already well known in the leaf. The Akatsuki was pretty much a mystery to everyone and no one knew anything about anyones powers in their first encounters.
-Itachi doesn't need to close his eyes to use his Mangeykou sharigan and so what if he does? No one notices besides us when he slowly closes his eyes to use Tysukomi
. Jiraya is already disadvantage of fighting Itachi while only looking at his feet and body. Itachi can still place Jiraya in a genjutsu that tricked more powerful Sm users.(Kabuto) Itachi has other ways than his MS powers to defeat Jiraya and that goes without saying.- Orochimaru was stronger than Jiraya but that is just my opinion. This thread isn't so much about them. If they both were fighting with the intent to kill one of them would be dead right now.
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If Minato and Jiraiya are over-rated then probably your rating methods/criteria are wrong !
Its not just only about power, its also about what they left - Their Legacy.
Minato left the Rasengan.
Jiraiya is the only reason why Hidden Leaf and others know about Akatsuki and Pein.
Jiraiya mentored strongest of Shinobis.
Minato saved the village from Kurama and left its amazing powers for Naruto.
And obviously Jiraiya was exceptional shinobi with great physical and mental prowess. Even-though he wasn't the greatest ninja ever, he certainly was the most powerful sannin and one of the most respected in leaf too ....
Its not just only about power, its also about what they left - Their Legacy.
Minato left the Rasengan.
Jiraiya is the only reason why Hidden Leaf and others know about Akatsuki and Pein.
Jiraiya mentored strongest of Shinobis.
Minato saved the village from Kurama and left its amazing powers for Naruto.
And obviously Jiraiya was exceptional shinobi with great physical and mental prowess. Even-though he wasn't the greatest ninja ever, he certainly was the most powerful sannin and one of the most respected in leaf too ....
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Yes. I've heard this too. I also heard that itachi can beat so6p but putting him in tysukiyomi then using Amaterasu while he can't move.
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Really can not be bothered going into detail, but just ponder on my thoughts with me
Jiraiya first showed his full ability against Pain, until then he wait pretty much hype and respect. The fact that he alone (the frogs were summons) took down Pains paths and learned out 'the secret' was an immense show of talent and capabilities. He accomplished more then what the whole of Konoha did and they were even more prepared (with knowledge and so forth) then he was!
Now I don't think people overate him too much, especially more then others, but I would say that some don't quite accept his full strength and his arsenal to adapt to different people's battle styles.
Jiraiya first showed his full ability against Pain, until then he wait pretty much hype and respect. The fact that he alone (the frogs were summons) took down Pains paths and learned out 'the secret' was an immense show of talent and capabilities. He accomplished more then what the whole of Konoha did and they were even more prepared (with knowledge and so forth) then he was!
Now I don't think people overate him too much, especially more then others, but I would say that some don't quite accept his full strength and his arsenal to adapt to different people's battle styles.