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Yes, thats true also. I think the Mafia has back off it a little more than back in the day, but the on going issue is the refs. When England won the WC? In the 60's? It should have gone to PK than lol.

I don't know if you play FIFA games, but FIFA 12 is amazing, its funny because you will see dives and wrong calls. I've played a few games and have scored either an offside goal or have been scored on offside. The dives are just to funny lol although the teams (AI's) play like Barcelona with possession and it gets annoying because they don't play attacking either, its more just pass the ball to who ever is open, they even go back to there goalie on the easiest difficulty. I pressured a guy from my end to his and he kicks the ball out, so I get the throw in, and in hard they find someone to pass to my only complain. I've been ot classed in possession or hard difficulty by at least 20%, but yet I have more shots on goal/target, it's kind of stupid that way my only complain. (off topic much!)

Well, the FK was given nevertheless, but than Giggs pretty much allowed it to go in. Well Liverpool need 4th no matter what they better get 2-3 good signings this Jan-Feb to keep them in the race, because with the team they have now it won't get them that far.

Yes, that is true, well for Man U's case lets hope they finish first or at least avoid getting drawn with Milan, Barca, Madrid, Chelsea, or Bayern in KO. In any case they still have time to get too first, and yes lets hope not to see another Arsenal and Barcelona game even tho I thnik Barcelona may beat this Arsenal team easier than the past few years, but Arsenal are 1st in there group, they have improved over the past month.

Liverpool drew today drawing is better than losing, but they need wins.

Madrid hammered Malaga 4-0 Higuain (1) and Ronaldo's hattrick (3), still three minutes to go in the game, Malaga started off poorly all the goals came within the 35 mins mark, but they pressured in the second half which they should have done from the start.

Di Maria 2 games, 4 assists
Higuain 10 goals, 5 games

Do they even show up for Argentina games!? lol

Barcelona VS Sevilla

Well this game ended in a 0-0 draw (although as usual Barcelona dominating possession wise and shots), with Sevilla and both Barcelona still being undefeated this season. Sevilla GK Varas was playing outstandingly well and he even save a PK by Messi, he saved a total of 8 goals and I'd expect at least 3-4 of them to go in.

The stoppage time, you could tell how high the emotion was for both sides. In the stoppage time Inesita got fouled (brought down) in the box. It was a foul after looking at it closely you could tell Inesita was fouled from the start and he was already unbalanced till one of the defenders slide in and caught the unbalance Inesita from a previous foul without even touching the ball. Sevilla players swarmed the ref to change his mind, but both ref and assistance, said it was a foul (PK given). When Messi was getting ready for the shot Kanoute walked by and kicked/moved the ball away from the spot, and than just before Messi was about to take the shot Cesc and Kanoute went at it with Kanoute pushing and I think either punching/slapping/or poking him (will most likely be in the news later today or tomorrow, perhaps saying regrading racism), which a red card was ended to him (Kanoute). The PK was given, also F. Navarro also got the red, I don't what for, but the game ended in a 0-0 draw, with Varas making the save on Messi's PK shot, after that they did play another two minutes, and Barcelona pressured, but got nothing.

Somewhere in the 60s but don't really remember the exact year. 1964 but I'm not sure...:| Too lazy to Google it

I have FIFA 10 and 11 on PS3 and 09 and 07 on PS2. I haven't brought FIFA 12 yet with exams going on. Surely will do it for holidays. Needs to put back my WiFi though. It's been a heck of a time that I played FIFA 11 too. The last time was against my cousins on Eid. I'll see how FIFA 12 is when I'll buy it. I haven't mastered FIFA 11 as well though. I'll start back with many basics in FIFA 12 I think. I really played far too few times with FIFA 11 this past year compared to the amount I usually play. I prefer my PSP, more practical.

Well, Liverpool have a great and interesting midfield; proposing many options now. What they'll need, to my point, is a good substitute for Suarez/Carrol and an offensive winger. Otherwise, the team is pretty well-balanced.

The first big news is that either Milan or Barca will finish second which obviously raises some interest. Arsenal are indeed getting better but all their recent victories are hard-fought ones and they'll need a convincing and large score victory to boost the still-damaged morale.

As I said, the draw at Anfield against ManU will prove more costly to Liverpool than United on a long run, at least my opinion.

That Kung-Fu kick was nice from Ronaldo; for someone who's letting Kaka, Di Maria, Benzema, Higuain and Ozil the recent limelight, he sure knows how to bounce off. It definitely confirmed what we say earlier - Real is becoming a team. I almost want to exclaim "finally..."

The highlight only showed the miss PK but still, Sevilla is a hard team to play against. So a draw isn't that dramatic to a team of that caliber. I expect much more defensive approach of CL teams against Barca this year - perhaps, even more rough play. I depends if it will be in terms of zonal defense marking like Italian teams usually do or by dual defense marking like England teams do.

Gotta to go now, Manchester Derby in less than 30 minutes.

 

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Can't believe Man.U lost 1-6
That made me sick

 

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Can't believe Man.U lost 1-6
That made me sick

I'm seriously not interested in reviewing that match but I'll do it just to remove some anger.

Well, the 1st half was extremely balanced. United had large amount of possession in the 1st half but City, defended well. Surprisingly, the midfielders like Milner and Silva did a fantastic defensive job which helped considerably. Balotelli scored on a counter and celebrated with an "Why Always Me?". United looked disorganized for some moments after that 1st goal but they attacked. There, it seemed interesting. It showed, that with time, this territorial football of United might turn the match on a long run as City will lose some forces as time and effort are increased. The shots from United before the 1st half showed promise that with patience, United may clinch something interesting.

Now, moving to the dream-crushing 2nd half. Well, dream-crushing and mostly uselessly crucial factor occurred in the first minutes of the second half when Evans fouled Balotelli and was sent-off. The red card is justified but that fault was stupid by Evans. Even if a goal could have occurred at that point, it will have been something less consequent. Playing with 10 man against City on a 2nd Half while being lead 1-0, seemed suicidal and it proved extremely suicidal indeed.

Giving City the ball possession, due to being in numerical inferiority, really was seeming dangerous and the 2nd and 3rd goal proved it. At this time, if you considered that if United was still at 11, they might instead still being lead by 2-1 or 2-0 only. That red card to Evans was a serious turn-over. I can't believe that when your team is playing a match based on patience and construction, how can you make a foul that is bound to result in a red-card and crush all the tactical force and play of your team? Evans lacked lucidity in that cruelly and United paid it off heavily.

Anyways, United scored one goal afterwards by Fletcher (a beautiful goal but that does not really matter). At this point, it's a 3-1 and frankly, as I analyzed it before the match, a loss against City could be crucial on a long run but by no means, was it a catastrophic result. But I must agree that conceding 3 goals in 3 minutes and losing 6-1 makes that loss very infuriating. Not because of the overall performance but because of the poor defense in the last 3 minutes and obviously, that red card which disrupted every chances United had in this match. You are obviously on nerves when you see how passively City scored those last 3 goals.

City played well, no doubt at it and deserved the win obviously. I salute Silva most notably which was the Man of the Match in my eyes. They still needs to play Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea though, so their leadership is far from something concrete till December. Thsi victory will prove a landmark though for their season just as the 8-2 of United proved for them.

Any aftermath that could occur on United due to this loss - well, as I named this before the start of the season, they did pretty great in their '10 Stages of Hell' which will be complete against a perilous match against Everton next week. Still, the consequence of this will be present as a trauma on United's defense especially since they took 3 goals in last 3 minutes (first time I saw this from United's defense). It's a match that needs to be quickly forgotten and digested from ManUtd though. There are few positive notes to be taken on this match for United apart from a balanced competitive 1st half and the fact that there weren't much they could have done when being at 10 for 45 minutes.

 

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Somewhere in the 60s but don't really remember the exact year. 1964 but I'm not sure...:| Too lazy to Google it

I have FIFA 10 and 11 on PS3 and 09 and 07 on PS2. I haven't brought FIFA 12 yet with exams going on. Surely will do it for holidays. Needs to put back my WiFi though. It's been a heck of a time that I played FIFA 11 too. The last time was against my cousins on Eid. I'll see how FIFA 12 is when I'll buy it. I haven't mastered FIFA 11 as well though. I'll start back with many basics in FIFA 12 I think. I really played far too few times with FIFA 11 this past year compared to the amount I usually play. I prefer my PSP, more practical.

Well, Liverpool have a great and interesting midfield; proposing many options now. What they'll need, to my point, is a good substitute for Suarez/Carrol and an offensive winger. Otherwise, the team is pretty well-balanced.

The first big news is that either Milan or Barca will finish second which obviously raises some interest. Arsenal are indeed getting better but all their recent victories are hard-fought ones and they'll need a convincing and large score victory to boost the still-damaged morale.

As I said, the draw at Anfield against ManU will prove more costly to Liverpool than United on a long run, at least my opinion.

That Kung-Fu kick was nice from Ronaldo; for someone who's letting Kaka, Di Maria, Benzema, Higuain and Ozil the recent limelight, he sure knows how to bounce off. It definitely confirmed what we say earlier - Real is becoming a team. I almost want to exclaim "finally..."

The highlight only showed the miss PK but still, Sevilla is a hard team to play against. So a draw isn't that dramatic to a team of that caliber. I expect much more defensive approach of CL teams against Barca this year - perhaps, even more rough play. I depends if it will be in terms of zonal defense marking like Italian teams usually do or by dual defense marking like England teams do.

Gotta to go now, Manchester Derby in less than 30 minutes.

I'm seriously not interested in reviewing that match but I'll do it just to remove some anger.

Well, the 1st half was extremely balanced. United had large amount of possession in the 1st half but City, defended well. Surprisingly, the midfielders like Milner and Silva did a fantastic defensive job which helped considerably. Balotelli scored on a counter and celebrated with an "Why Always Me?". United looked disorganized for some moments after that 1st goal but they attacked. There, it seemed interesting. It showed, that with time, this territorial football of United might turn the match on a long run as City will lose some forces as time and effort are increased. The shots from United before the 1st half showed promise that with patience, United may clinch something interesting.

Now, moving to the dream-crushing 2nd half. Well, dream-crushing and mostly uselessly crucial factor occurred in the first minutes of the second half when Evans fouled Balotelli and was sent-off. The red card is justified but that fault was stupid by Evans. Even if a goal could have occurred at that point, it will have been something less consequent. Playing with 10 man against City on a 2nd Half while being lead 1-0, seemed suicidal and it proved extremely suicidal indeed.

Giving City the ball possession, due to being in numerical inferiority, really was seeming dangerous and the 2nd and 3rd goal proved it. At this time, if you considered that if United was still at 11, they might instead still being lead by 2-1 or 2-0 only. That red card to Evans was a serious turn-over. I can't believe that when your team is playing a match based on patience and construction, how can you make a foul that is bound to result in a red-card and crush all the tactical force and play of your team? Evans lacked lucidity in that cruelly and United paid it off heavily.

Anyways, United scored one goal afterwards by Fletcher (a beautiful goal but that does not really matter). At this point, it's a 3-1 and frankly, as I analyzed it before the match, a loss against City could be crucial on a long run but by no means, was it a catastrophic result. But I must agree that conceding 3 goals in 3 minutes and losing 6-1 makes that loss very infuriating. Not because of the overall performance but because of the poor defense in the last 3 minutes and obviously, that red card which disrupted every chances United had in this match. You are obviously on nerves when you see how passively City scored those last 3 goals.

City played well, no doubt at it and deserved the win obviously. I salute Silva most notably which was the Man of the Match in my eyes. They still needs to play Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea though, so their leadership is far from something concrete till December. Thsi victory will prove a landmark though for their season just as the 8-2 of United proved for them.

Any aftermath that could occur on United due to this loss - well, as I named this before the start of the season, they did pretty great in their '10 Stages of Hell' which will be complete against a perilous match against Everton next week. Still, the consequence of this will be present as a trauma on United's defense especially since they took 3 goals in last 3 minutes (first time I saw this from United's defense). It's a match that needs to be quickly forgotten and digested from ManUtd though. There are few positive notes to be taken on this match for United apart from a balanced competitive 1st half and the fact that there weren't much they could have done when being at 10 for 45 minutes.

Yes, I assumed it was 1966 (which it was), which took place in England (the WC that year) and it was 4-2 VS West Germany, I think.

Well, FIFA 12, defending is much more of a challenge in this, i remember is FIFA 10/11 you just hit the ran button and A, they would tackle, but i this much more than just that and they AI dribble really good and toy with you at times.

Well, another good midfielder and at least a CB, they will need.

I guess the game between them will decide as the other two teams will be easy wins, unless they slip up, but Barcelona is winning by more goals atm. Arsenal just won 3-1 a little more progress for them, even tho they are fighting and winning by one or two goals, its what they need right now as long as it's a victory.

Well, its good at least the next war between Barcelona and Madrid will not only be heated up verbally/physically, but lets hope we see things on the pitch (in game).

Sevilla have improved into a better team this year, lets not forget that last year they beat barcelona in the first leg 3-1 for Espana Cup, but the the 2nd leg Messi with a hat trick and they (Barcelona) won that 4-0 (5-3 in total). Sevilla star striker Negredo was out and Kanoute returned from injury, so came on as a sub. Yes, a more defensive approach will come from other teams who face Barcelona, but Barcelona defence itself needs work. Pique and Puyol both being injured a lot now, Abidal also facing problems, Mascherano lacks height.

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Like I said, they would accuse racism regrading the incident with Cesc. Well, Madrid are on the top of the table at the moment.

Manchester United VS Manchester City

6-1!!? Really? I'm sorry to say, but that's a thrashing, I mean if a defeat came it's understandable, but like you said 3 goals in 3 minutes. I guess De Gea will face more criticisms now. If I'm not mistaken it's SAF biggest/worst defeat in 25 years. Mario Balotelli has improved this year, but it doesn't change the fact I still dislike his personality and whats up with the, Why Always Me?" thing? Did you hear Balotelli burned his house down with a firecracker or something Sat. morning (retard). It's funny how everyone saying it's the end of Man U era, when Man City still have a lot to do and have they forgotten the 2-0 lead they blew for the FA Cup this summer VS Man U?

Silva is simply amazing Man U had the chance to get him two years ago, but they didn't he would have been great for Giggs replacement, possible even better. We also can't ignore the fact that him (Silva) and Villa were right up their with Valencia in the league with Barca and Madrid. It was simply like Silva (seeing he was almost behind everything) VS Man U, as yesterday it was Varas VS Barcelona.

Well good thing Chelsea lost today, so Man U still are in 2nd otherwise they would have fell to third if Chelsea won.

AC Milan had an amazing/inspiring game being down 3-0 in half time and coming back to win 4-3.

 

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Yes, I assumed it was 1966 (which it was), which took place in England (the WC that year) and it was 4-2 VS West Germany, I think.

Well, FIFA 12, defending is much more of a challenge in this, i remember is FIFA 10/11 you just hit the ran button and A, they would tackle, but i this much more than just that and they AI dribble really good and toy with you at times.

Well, another good midfielder and at least a CB, they will need.

I guess the game between them will decide as the other two teams will be easy wins, unless they slip up, but Barcelona is winning by more goals atm. Arsenal just won 3-1 a little more progress for them, even tho they are fighting and winning by one or two goals, its what they need right now as long as it's a victory.

Well, its good at least the next war between Barcelona and Madrid will not only be heated up verbally/physically, but lets hope we see things on the pitch (in game).

Sevilla have improved into a better team this year, lets not forget that last year they beat barcelona in the first leg 3-1 for Espana Cup, but the the 2nd leg Messi with a hat trick and they (Barcelona) won that 4-0 (5-3 in total). Sevilla star striker Negredo was out and Kanoute returned from injury, so came on as a sub. Yes, a more defensive approach will come from other teams who face Barcelona, but Barcelona defence itself needs work. Pique and Puyol both being injured a lot now, Abidal also facing problems, Mascherano lacks height.

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Like I said, they would accuse racism regrading the incident with Cesc. Well, Madrid are on the top of the table at the moment.

Manchester United VS Manchester City

6-1!!? Really? I'm sorry to say, but that's a thrashing, I mean if a defeat came it's understandable, but like you said 3 goals in 3 minutes. I guess De Gea will face more criticisms now. If I'm not mistaken it's SAF biggest/worst defeat in 25 years. Mario Balotelli has improved this year, but it doesn't change the fact I still dislike his personality and whats up with the, Why Always Me?" thing? Did you hear Balotelli burned his house down with a firecracker or something Sat. morning (retard). It's funny how everyone saying it's the end of Man U era, when Man City still have a lot to do and have they forgotten the 2-0 lead they blew for the FA Cup this summer VS Man U?

Silva is simply amazing Man U had the chance to get him two years ago, but they didn't he would have been great for Giggs replacement, possible even better. We also can't ignore the fact that him (Silva) and Villa were right up their with Valencia in the league with Barca and Madrid. It was simply like Silva (seeing he was almost behind everything) VS Man U, as yesterday it was Varas VS Barcelona.

Well good thing Chelsea lost today, so Man U still are in 2nd otherwise they would have fell to third if Chelsea won.

AC Milan had an amazing/inspiring game being down 3-0 in half time and coming back to win 4-3.

Liverpool don't need a new midfielder to me. Atleast, not a central one - a winger, yes. They already have choices with Meireiles, Adams, Downing, Gerrard and some other players as CM.

Yep, they won once more today (3-1) but still, some more polishing is needed for it to be convincing.

Well, you're harsh. Some of the matches were good on the field. Nevertheless, regardless of Madrid's teamwork, they will still take a more defensive approach against Barca. Can't change this fact except if referee decisions change everything in their favor otherwise, they can't go an all-out in attack.

Well, that Cesc affair, of course seemed to take racial proportions. After Evra-Suarez, here's another though this one was more flagrant. Speaking of Evra-Suarez case, Evra delivered his version of facts to the investigators already and Suarez is supposed to give his on Monday.

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A trashing. Well, it was one, I can't deny it. I've got more of a sense of fail in delivering a whole match on a tactical level. Recently, all United matches were failures on a tactical plan.

Liverpool v/s United - United schemes something until a dive and FK changes everything. Galati - Territorial domination were supposed to pay off but we needed PK to grab the victory (although, in this one, I won't blame them since both PKs were right). Basel - You're leading 2-0 and your conservative tactic fail and you're lead 3-2. City - I already said everything.

In a way, Ferguson is not wrong in his tactic choice but he is lacking proper delivery of his tactic from hid players and luck is not favoring SAF either.

No comments on the 3 goals in 3 min - that what's infuriated me. There were a Rooney sign at 5-1 and he screamed to everyone - "What are you doing, guys? We already lost it. So bear with it and concentrate. But everyone seemed so disoriented that no one card about his words and the defense rushed again uselessly into attack and conceded another goal as backlash. That made me sick. Evans already ruined everything and the other guys just wanted to go home as if in the last 3 mins.

And I won't blame De Gea. He can't do much about all 3 goals. Evra and Ferdinand were terrible in the last 3 goals but they couldn't have do much in the previous ones neither. It's the red card that blew everything and Young and Nani made some defensive efforts but not always and this proved fatal.

And Balotelli - He was also fined by some policemen in a shopping center for whatever shit in this week too and the fire in his house...lol. Still, he's becoming a star with his controversies in City and he still scored important goals today again.

Well, let the detractors bury us. The fact is that United's loss is far from being a catastrophe as we analyzed it before the match. We knew that this 10 Stages of Hell will be hellish. Right now, we are 20/27 points. I expected us to grab 24 atleast in those 10 matches like I said before but still a victory against Everton will give us 23 which is not that bad. Why are people forgetting that we've just played the Top5 Dogs of EPL already and we're still second. If City loses his important fixtures against Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea, then I'll bet they'll say - "Why is City dropping shape then?" Burying a team is easy but clear-cut analysis about hardness is more difficult. Still, that's a humiliation for United and a landmark victory for City. There're still 29 matches though, so ending United's era ...gimme a break. Try form a squad like us first and then come bragging shits.

And Chelsea's match boosted my morale though that match was one of the most non-fair-play and crazy match I've seen since long. Even if United dropped to 3rd place, we'll still have been 5 points away from City - so that doesn't change anything. Whatever the score or the ranking, United will fight for 1st place unless we drop to around 6th place or worse.

 

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Liverpool don't need a new midfielder to me. Atleast, not a central one - a winger, yes. They already have choices with Meireiles, Adams, Downing, Gerrard and some other players as CM.

Yep, they won once more today (3-1) but still, some more polishing is needed for it to be convincing.

Well, you're harsh. Some of the matches were good on the field. Nevertheless, regardless of Madrid's teamwork, they will still take a more defensive approach against Barca. Can't change this fact except if referee decisions change everything in their favor otherwise, they can't go an all-out in attack.

Well, that Cesc affair, of course seemed to take racial proportions. After Evra-Suarez, here's another though this one was more flagrant. Speaking of Evra-Suarez case, Evra delivered his version of facts to the investigators already and Suarez is supposed to give his on Monday.

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A trashing. Well, it was one, I can't deny it. I've got more of a sense of fail in delivering a whole match on a tactical level. Recently, all United matches were failures on a tactical plan.

Liverpool v/s United - United schemes something until a dive and FK changes everything. Galati - Territorial domination were supposed to pay off but we needed PK to grab the victory (although, in this one, I won't blame them since both PKs were right). Basel - You're leading 2-0 and your conservative tactic fail and you're lead 3-2. City - I already said everything.

In a way, Ferguson is not wrong in his tactic choice but he is lacking proper delivery of his tactic from hid players and luck is not favoring SAF either.

No comments on the 3 goals in 3 min - that what's infuriated me. There were a Rooney sign at 5-1 and he screamed to everyone - "What are you doing, guys? We already lost it. So bear with it and concentrate. But everyone seemed so disoriented that no one card about his words and the defense rushed again uselessly into attack and conceded another goal as backlash. That made me sick. Evans already ruined everything and the other guys just wanted to go home as if in the last 3 mins.

And I won't blame De Gea. He can't do much about all 3 goals. Evra and Ferdinand were terrible in the last 3 goals but they couldn't have do much in the previous ones neither. It's the red card that blew everything and Young and Nani made some defensive efforts but not always and this proved fatal.

And Balotelli - He was also fined by some policemen in a shopping center for whatever shit in this week too and the fire in his house...lol. Still, he's becoming a star with his controversies in City and he still scored important goals today again.

Well, let the detractors bury us. The fact is that United's loss is far from being a catastrophe as we analyzed it before the match. We knew that this 10 Stages of Hell will be hellish. Right now, we are 20/27 points. I expected us to grab 24 atleast in those 10 matches like I said before but still a victory against Everton will give us 23 which is not that bad. Why are people forgetting that we've just played the Top5 Dogs of EPL already and we're still second. If City loses his important fixtures against Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea, then I'll bet they'll say - "Why is City dropping shape then?" Burying a team is easy but clear-cut analysis about hardness is more difficult. Still, that's a humiliation for United and a landmark victory for City. There're still 29 matches though, so ending United's era ...gimme a break. Try form a squad like us first and then come bragging shits.

And Chelsea's match boosted my morale though that match was one of the most non-fair-play and crazy match I've seen since long. Even if United dropped to 3rd place, we'll still have been 5 points away from City - so that doesn't change anything. Whatever the score or the ranking, United will fight for 1st place unless we drop to around 6th place or worse.

Raul M is at Chelsea did your forget?

Yes, but either way with the team they have now it's quite impressive, they (Arsenal) need to show up against some heavyweight teams.

I meant the Barca VS Madrid, where Madrid/Mou played an all out defensive game remember last year? It was pathetic. I already said this year seeing the Barca VS Madrid Espana Cup, you saw a taste of the new Madrid, Barca walking away with just one goal and in the first game Madrid dominated possession. I rather see an all out Madrid playing as a team (seeing back last year when they got thrashed 5-0, there was barely any team work). A defensive game is just simply cowardly and pathetic. It's good to defend, but when it's an all out defensive game (from one side who barely try to attack and put there fastest player up front to get a counter going), it's sad to football.

Well, than I wonder if Suarez side of the story is out than.

Well, many knew this was coming for SAF and Man U judging from there last few performances. Well, a red card did change everything, but at least Man U still played the game by attacking dispute being down a man, if it was a Barca VS Madrid, Mou would have played defensively.

Well, many actually are putting De Gea as one of the responsible ones, even tho he tried, but without a solid defence there isn't much you can do.

You didn't answer my question...whats with the, "Why always me?" saying from Balotelli (if you know). It's funny how Mancini, think Balotelli is, or will be as good as Messi and Ronaldo...! lol

Well, it's not over yet they will meet at least one more time and depending on some cup games. The league is still going on and the title can still be in reach by any of the top 5 teams at this moment.

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1. Real Madrid's Jose Mourinho fines Iker Casillas after keeper is caught in traffic jam and turns up late for training

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Talk about being harsh.

2. Silva rejected Barca and Real

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Really? lol he will eventually go to one of them...maybe?

3. Neymar to Real Madrid a done deal

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How long is this going to go for? Madrid offered 56 million euros. That's insane I don't think he's worth that much yet and he may not even delivery. Santos is doing shit right nw anyways.

4. Madrid midfielder Granero set to snub Arsenal in favour of Malaga move

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He's not that bad, I think Arsenal would be a ether place for him at least he'd provide a lot of support in mid field.

5. Man Utd to make £40m bid for Wesley Sneijder in January

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I know they want Sneijder, but thats a little too much don't you think?

6. Man Utd and FC Barcelona monitoring Valencia CF defender Jordi Alba

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Well, they both need a defender. Barcelna (Puyol/Abidal) and Man U (Rio F.) are all getting old. Alba has been promising with Valencia and the Spain national team, he's only 22.

7. Jose Enrique: 'Manchester United players dive more than Luis Suarez'

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Talk about rivalry although I disagree wit SAF by calling Suarez a serial diver.

8. AC Milan admit 'passion' for Manchester City's Mario Balotelli

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Really?

9. United set to step up pursuit of Bibao midfield star Martinez with January bid

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If they get him no use of Sneijder I saw, he's cheaper, younger, and promising.

10. FC Barcelona considering bid for Theo Walcott

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Arsenal again? LOL I doubt this will go through Barca don't really need him.

11. Manchester City's Yaya Toure blames Pep Guardiola for Barcelona exit: I wanted to stay but he had no faith in me

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Last year he clearly stated he left because he wanted more competition and even told Barcelona teams in locker room, they joked with him about it, but respected his decision and now this...

12. 'Lionel Messi's mother came after me with a frying pan' -Messi's ex-girlfriend

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LMFAOOO

13. Pep Guardiola: Man Utd will bounce back

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Hails Man U as still one of the best despite the 6-1 loss.

14. Ferguson: We are catching Barcelona

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Possible.

15. Carlos Tevez handed record £792,000 fine as Manchester City take hard-line stance over stand-off in Munich

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Holy shit.

16. Franz Beckenbauer: Barcelona are their own worst enemies

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So, England beat Spain

 

[Pesh]

So, England beat Spain

Aww, Gatsy, they wouldn't have done it if it was an official match.

 

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Aww, Gatsy, they wouldn't have done it if was an official match.

lol

The game was really well and can't believe Spain missed so many chances, but England's goal came from a bad defensive play and poor Reina came on and 3 mins later on him....GOOOLLLLLLLL! lol

Englands first win VS Spain in 10 years I think (?)

Either way I'm more impressed by Uruguay from last year and this year. They will pose a big threat to the top contenders (Spain, Holland, and Germany).

Uruguay face a big task tomorrow facing Italy (friendly).

 

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So, today there was a few interesting matches for the UEFA CL group stages.

Napoli VS Man City... 2-1

All I can say here is EDINSON CAVANI! What a game for him scoring both goals to get by City. City is in a big threat this UEFA season, if they don't get a win from Bayern they're pretty much done for, but than again if Napoli win and City wins, Napoli will still get thru.

Real Madrid VS Dinamo... 6-2

Well Iker, Ronaldo, and Pepe were sitting out today, but Madrid is still dominating and are getting deadly every game. I have a feeling we will see them in the finals.

Man United VS Benfica... 2-2

Well Man U aren't doing too bad, but next game they need a a draw or win in order to get to group stages, so expect SAF to go all out next game.

Inter VS Trabzonspor... 1-1

Well Inter are getting back to winning ways

 

[Uchiha seeker]

yeah Real Madrid dominating all their opponents except Levante

 

[welshfan2k11]

since man city lost yesterday, i think liverpool got a great chance to beat them

 

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Bayer Leverkusen VS Chelsea... 2-1

Well Chelsea are falling pretty bad now, it's a shock to see this Chelsea team struggling IMO t's due to the old players in there roster except this transfer or summer transfer to be big for them.

Barcelona VS AC Milan... 3-2

I wasn't too pleased by Barcelona game even tho they played better and had most the chances, but they lacked in so many areas, I understand Pique, Alves, and Ineista are out, also Sanchez/Pedro returned from injury, but they need to become stronger, especially defensively.

Valencia VS Genk... 7-0

Valencia? This team is capable of fighting with Barcelona and Madrid in La Liga.

Arsenal VS Borussia Dortmund... 2-1

Already a topic on this, but Arsenal are back with a vengeance lol If nothing does from them this season we could see RVP and song departing the club :O

since man city lost yesterday, i think liverpool got a great chance to beat them

Well Man City will try to keep the good ran they have in EPL right now and won't be too happy with the recent result in CL, so except them to hit back hard this weekend. I do hope Liverpool get the win, as they need it.

 

[Escorpiius]

So, today there was a few interesting matches for the UEFA CL group stages.

Napoli VS Man City... 2-1

All I can say here is EDINSON CAVANI! What a game for him scoring both goals to get by City. City is in a big threat this UEFA season, if they don't get a win from Bayern they're pretty much done for, but than again if Napoli win and City wins, Napoli will still get thru.

Real Madrid VS Dinamo... 6-2

Well Iker, Ronaldo, and Pepe were sitting out today, but Madrid is still dominating and are getting deadly every game. I have a feeling we will see them in the finals.

Man United VS Benfica... 2-2

Well Man U aren't doing too bad, but next game they need a a draw or win in order to get to group stages, so expect SAF to go all out next game.

Inter VS Trabzonspor... 1-1

Well Inter are getting back to winning ways

First, obviously, please excuse me for my inactivity...

Napoli VS Man City... 2-1

What's funny is that Cavani was unlucky and unsuccessful in the last month and what a comeback. City still got a chance, I believe (in beating Bayern) but I definitely not sure they'll make it (since Napoli won't lose this Golden chance). nevertheless, even if this maiden debut by City was far from being long, I don't think they won't make it to the Top4 in EPL this year So, better luck next time to them.

Real Madrid VS Dinamo... 6-2

Real are the best right now in my view; both in CL and Liga. I don't know what spell Mourinho cast but he's always successful in his lining choices. Whether it's Benzema/Ronaldo, Ronaldo/Higuain or Higuain/Benzema, they always succeed. Even his alternation with the likes of Ozil/Kaka and Contrao/Alonso/Diarra is successful. Luck or not, they are brilliant right now.

The Classico will perhaps prove if it is luck or if it is due to the symbiosis attained between all players (finally...)

Man United VS Benfica... 2-2

Okay, this one irritated me. Both Benfica goals were due to poor defence and most importantly, entered at crucial points of the match. One at the first minutes and second after the leading goal. It kills momentum considerably each time.

United played a better match compared to their last 3 matches but still, this result complicate our chances. We deserve a win and should have got, had Berbatov netted his 2 opportunities. Good news is that we got back Smalling and Young which pretty much gives us the squad we had at the start - except Cleverley.

Inter VS Trabzonspor... 1-1

Didn't see it but a draw isn't called as 'winning' ways'

Bayer Leverkusen VS Chelsea... 2-1

Well Chelsea are falling pretty bad now, it's a shock to see this Chelsea team struggling IMO t's due to the old players in there roster except this transfer or summer transfer to be big for them.

Barcelona VS AC Milan... 3-2

I wasn't too pleased by Barcelona game even tho they played better and had most the chances, but they lacked in so many areas, I understand Pique, Alves, and Ineista are out, also Sanchez/Pedro returned from injury, but they need to become stronger, especially defensively.

Valencia VS Genk... 7-0

Valencia? This team is capable of fighting with Barcelona and Madrid in La Liga.

Arsenal VS Borussia Dortmund... 2-1

Already a topic on this, but Arsenal are back with a vengeance lol If nothing does from them this season we could see RVP and song departing the club :O

Well Man City will try to keep the good ran they have in EPL right now and won't be too happy with the recent result in CL, so except them to hit back hard this weekend. I do hope Liverpool get the win, as they need it.

Bayer Leverkusen VS Chelsea... 2-1

Chelsea are in total fog both in EPL and CL right now. For me , the 3 reasons are:

1. Villas-Boas is confused. His choices are being unsuccessful whatever he makes and even if he wants to kick out some players and buy some, he risks more to receive a pink slip than checks for transfers by Abramovitch. I loved his answer to the media though. When someone asked him if he is worried about his place, he said that he was brought her for 15 Millions and that Abramovitch won't lose another 15 Millions only to sack me. xD

2. The old gen' leaders (Cech, Terry, Lampard and Drogba) are no more what they are and no more bring the charisma, leadership, efficiency and solidity. This is problematic. Sure, there are many old players also in the squad but it's mostly the leaders of that genration that can't seem to show the path anymore.

3. For a team in doubt and that perhaps will need a complete turnover, they are still under consistent pressure unlike the likes of Arsenal or Liverpool who have the beneficiary of doubts. Need results and FAST; that's how Chelsea keeps working and that's isn't really working.

Barcelona VS AC Milan... 3-2

Agree with you. Barcelona's only problem is the defense and as to how much that could be problematic to them against big teams next time, well, the Classico will be the idea test to me.

Valencia VS Genk... 7-0

It's Genk, no need to boast that much off but this victory is certainly not what Chelsea needed.

Arsenal VS Borussia Dortmund... 2-1

Everyone were patient with them and that's working. Before Nasri went away, at the start, I said that 'If Van Persie is in shape and don't get injured, they'll fight for top slots'

Well, Nasri may be gone but Van Persie's real worth is helping Arsenal considerably indeed. Arsenal's form and results depend on Van Persie, let's wait and see...

 

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First, obviously, please excuse me for my inactivity...

Napoli VS Man City... 2-1

What's funny is that Cavani was unlucky and unsuccessful in the last month and what a comeback. City still got a chance, I believe (in beating Bayern) but I definitely not sure they'll make it (since Napoli won't lose this Golden chance). nevertheless, even if this maiden debut by City was far from being long, I don't think they won't make it to the Top4 in EPL this year So, better luck next time to them.

Well they will be back next season that is for sure. As of this season they still have a slight chance if Napoli draws or loses Man City need to win no matter what.

Real Madrid VS Dinamo... 6-2

Real are the best right now in my view; both in CL and Liga. I don't know what spell Mourinho cast but he's always successful in his lining choices. Whether it's Benzema/Ronaldo, Ronaldo/Higuain or Higuain/Benzema, they always succeed. Even his alternation with the likes of Ozil/Kaka and Contrao/Alonso/Diarra is successful. Luck or not, they are brilliant right now.

The Classico will perhaps prove if it is luck or if it is due to the symbiosis attained between all players (finally...)

Well the thing is Madrid have all these big stars like Benzema, Higuain, Ronaldo and there bench Kaka, Sahin, and so on. There bench is great and I believe one of the best as you see a lot of talent of future stars/past stars kind of thing.

I have a bad feeling for Barca come Clasico time, but either way expect a fight/argument/drama between the two. If Barca win Mourinho will have a lot to say, if he wins he will still have a lot to say lol

Man United VS Benfica... 2-2

Okay, this one irritated me. Both Benfica goals were due to poor defence and most importantly, entered at crucial points of the match. One at the first minutes and second after the leading goal. It kills momentum considerably each time.

United played a better match compared to their last 3 matches but still, this result complicate our chances. We deserve a win and should have got, had Berbatov netted his 2 opportunities. Good news is that we got back Smalling and Young which pretty much gives us the squad we had at the start - except Cleverley.

I remember saying Man U's challenge would be Benfica, even tho Man U was mostly the best team among the two in the group. It was the same with Barca and Milan game came down to the wire even tho Barca was the better team both games. I know Man U was the better team in both games VS Benfica, but it was unfortunate for them not to get the win, but next game they need a draw at least if not a win VS Basel as any of the two can get thru Basel needs a win to get thru.

Inter VS Trabzonspor... 1-1

Didn't see it but a draw isn't called as 'winning' ways'

LOL

What I meant is they are getting points and results compare them to the start of the season to now, they lost first CL game, but since than they have risen up and toped their group. They are also starting to get results in Serie A, still have a long way, but when Forlan comes back, they'll have more firing power.

Bayer Leverkusen VS Chelsea... 2-1

Chelsea are in total fog both in EPL and CL right now. For me , the 3 reasons are:

1. Villas-Boas is confused. His choices are being unsuccessful whatever he makes and even if he wants to kick out some players and buy some, he risks more to receive a pink slip than checks for transfers by Abramovitch. I loved his answer to the media though. When someone asked him if he is worried about his place, he said that he was brought her for 15 Millions and that Abramovitch won't lose another 15 Millions only to sack me. xD

2. The old gen' leaders (Cech, Terry, Lampard and Drogba) are no more what they are and no more bring the charisma, leadership, efficiency and solidity. This is problematic. Sure, there are many old players also in the squad but it's mostly the leaders of that genration that can't seem to show the path anymore.

3. For a team in doubt and that perhaps will need a complete turnover, they are still under consistent pressure unlike the likes of Arsenal or Liverpool who have the beneficiary of doubts. Need results and FAST; that's how Chelsea keeps working and that's isn't really working.

Well, I agree with you on the Chelsea part, but they (Chelsea) are going to be spending big money come next transfer and during summer.

Chelsea are already linked to bid for Kaka, Cavani, Higuain, Modric, Cahill, and they are also scouting some Barca/Madrid academy youths.

Drogba is being offered a deal with LA to replace Beckham.

Barcelona VS AC Milan... 3-2

Agree with you. Barcelona's only problem is the defense and as to how much that could be problematic to them against big teams next time, well, the Classico will be the idea test to me.

They are also scouting Bale from spurs and Abidal, Keita are being linked to other clubs.

We will see how there defence is than expect them to have Alves, Pique, Puyol, and Abidal in the back

Valencia VS Genk... 7-0

It's Genk, no need to boast that much off but this victory is certainly not what Chelsea needed.

Well it's not only that, they drew with Chelsea (or won?), they drew with Barca and last week made a come back VS Madrid only to lose 3-2, so they have improved over the past few weeks and aren't too far behind Barca and Madrid yet. All I'm saying is you don't want to underestimate them, If I can recall haven't they won a UEFA CL in 2000? Soldado, maybe wanted by a lot of clubs with a stellar performance this season so far.

 

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Well they will be back next season that is for sure. As of this season they still have a slight chance if Napoli draws or loses Man City need to win no matter what.


Well the thing is Madrid have all these big stars like Benzema, Higuain, Ronaldo and there bench Kaka, Sahin, and so on. There bench is great and I believe one of the best as you see a lot of talent of future stars/past stars kind of thing. I have a bad feeling for Barca come Clasico time, but either way expect a fight/argument/drama between the two. If Barca win Mourinho will have a lot to say, if he wins he will still have a lot to say lol

I remember saying Man U's challenge would be Benfica, even tho Man U was mostly the best team among the two in the group. It was the same with Barca and Milan game came down to the wire even tho Barca was the better team both games. I know Man U was the better team in both games VS Benfica, but it was unfortunate for them not to get the win, but next game they need a draw at least if not a win VS Basel as any of the two can get thru Basel needs a win to get thru.



LOL
What I meant is they are getting points and results compare them to the start of the season to now, they lost first CL game, but since than they have risen up and toped their group. They are also starting to get results in Serie A, still have a long way, but when Forlan comes back, they'll have more firing power.


Well, I agree with you on the Chelsea part, but they (Chelsea) are going to be spending big money come next transfer and during summer. Chelsea are already linked to bid for Kaka, Cavani, Higuain, Modric, Cahill, and they are also scouting some Barca/Madrid academy youths. Drogba is being offered a deal with LA to replace Beckham.

They are also scouting Bale from spurs and Abidal, Keita are being linked to other clubs. We will see how there defence is than expect them to have Alves, Pique, Puyol, and Abidal in the back

Well it's not only that, they drew with Chelsea (or won?), they drew with Barca and last week made a come back VS Madrid only to lose 3-2, so they have improved over the past few weeks and aren't too far behind Barca and Madrid yet. All I'm saying is you don't want to underestimate them, If I can recall haven't they won a UEFA CL in 2000? Soldado, maybe wanted by a lot of clubs with a stellar performance this season so far.

Nope, don't believe in it. I think, maybe they might get 1 point or win against Bayern but I don't think Napoli will lose points against Villareal after coming so near to the qualifications. Let's hope for both matches to be good and what will be perfect for suspense will be a draw for both where we can see the qualification continuously tilting.

Indeed, Real's bench is great but that's nothing new. They've got a new thing. Either, it's freakin' luck or better complementary is to be seen and I find the Classico to be the perfect test. And frankly, I'd like Real to win this in fact. I knew I'm not saying something new but this will finally add spice to both Liga and CL.

Indeed...Unlucky week for United in terms of results and success.

Inter are better but I find them still under-par to previous years but it's better, I must agree than the start of this season.

There are other players like Hulk and other Porto players that's also turning around for Chelsea along with the ones you mentioned. They'll have a very busy and active Jan. transfer season.

Yep, they are good fighters indeed.

Anyways, I'm a bit fuming after United's draw against Newcastle today though. We've played very good but were damn damn unlucky. The final draw was a 1-1 draw after a penalty - which seemed legit to me even though Ferdinand took the ball but all United players kept denying it; even after match but oh well...

After that equaliser, United had like 10-15 shots on goal - notably after the PK were: Newcastle being at 10, numerous balls were shot both off-target and on-target, Young touched the woodwork on a shot, a defender saved a ball on the line, the Newcastle GK saved decisive shots by Vidic, Evra and Rooney and at 94th, Chicharito scored a goal that was refused for an off-side position (was debatable though since only his head was beyond the line and rest of the body were well on the line but damn...we deserved better especially after so much chances. Were quite unlucky; much more than against Benfica.

Let's see the clash between City and Liverpool for tomorrow now.

 

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Nope, don't believe in it. I think, maybe they might get 1 point or win against Bayern but I don't think Napoli will lose points against Villareal after coming so near to the qualifications. Let's hope for both matches to be good and what will be perfect for suspense will be a draw for both where we can see the qualification continuously tilting.

Indeed, Real's bench is great but that's nothing new. They've got a new thing. Either, it's freakin' luck or better complementary is to be seen and I find the Classico to be the perfect test. And frankly, I'd like Real to win this in fact. I knew I'm not saying something new but this will finally add spice to both Liga and CL.

Indeed...Unlucky week for United in terms of results and success.

Inter are better but I find them still under-par to previous years but it's better, I must agree than the start of this season.

There are other players like Hulk and other Porto players that's also turning around for Chelsea along with the ones you mentioned. They'll have a very busy and active Jan. transfer season.

Yep, they are good fighters indeed.

Anyways, I'm a bit fuming after United's draw against Newcastle today though. We've played very good but were damn damn unlucky. The final draw was a 1-1 draw after a penalty - which seemed legit to me even though Ferdinand took the ball but all United players kept denying it; even after match but oh well...

After that equaliser, United had like 10-15 shots on goal - notably after the PK were: Newcastle being at 10, numerous balls were shot both off-target and on-target, Young touched the woodwork on a shot, a defender saved a ball on the line, the Newcastle GK saved decisive shots by Vidic, Evra and Rooney and at 94th, Chicharito scored a goal that was refused for an off-side position (was debatable though since only his head was beyond the line and rest of the body were well on the line but damn...we deserved better especially after so much chances. Were quite unlucky; much more than against Benfica.

Let's see the clash between City and Liverpool for tomorrow now.

Villarreal are having a bad season and they've lost their two main strikers to injury (Rossi and Nilmar). Napoli will get results against them but hey anything can happen, after all it's football miracles, bad decision etc do occur to play in favor. I believe City aren't ready to go all the way and if they do well they showing there worth.

Well Madrid are playing more as a team now, so really that is their key for the past few performance we are seeing. In the past all these guys (Ronaldo, Di Maria, Benzema) played for themselves now they are setting one another up. They have a total of 29 assists just in La Liga combined (Maria = 9, Roanldo = 6, Ozil = 6, Arbeloa = 3, Ramos = 3, Benzema = 2) and Goals Roanldo = 16, Higuain = 12, Benzema = 7, they have a total of 36 GD na damong those three it's 35 goals with 29 assists. If this continues no doubt Mourinho said will test victory this year.

Well, Chelsea got results yesterday after a few weeks, and indeed they will have a very busy transfer window.

Well, with Man U, they have won the past two games 1-0 and drew this one 1-1 and Hernedez scored every goal those games if they won it would have been a double hat trick for him 3 goals = 3 wins Newcastle isn't a push over this season, but I agree that Man U should have gotten this victory.

At least ManU got results from that game. I'm more pissed off, as Barca lost their first game of the season VS Gatafe and it ended their 27 unbeaten streak....27!! like Barca always does this, they set some crazy unbeaten ran and lose to a low lvl team, but there defense is in bad shape as Alves, Pique, Puyol, and Abidal go on and off injuries or have just returned which is a huge downfall for them. Barca is now chasing Madrid who are 6 points ahead in La Liga and I don't see Madrid dropping any points until Clasico, but even than they are going to be favs for that, as Barca defense will screw them over, but will see because we can't doubt Barca, there defense also had problems last year with Puyol and Abidal out, but they manage to win the league and CL.

Liverpool loses, or not won't be a huge difference as long as they don't lose by a huge number, I think Kenny will try for a draw to motivate his side, and a win would be great, as were City will want the win.

It's 1-1 55 mins in and a OG was done given by Lescott and Liverpool are playing pretty well as of now.

 

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Villarreal are having a bad season and they've lost their two main strikers to injury (Rossi and Nilmar). Napoli will get results against them but hey anything can happen, after all it's football miracles, bad decision etc do occur to play in favor. I believe City aren't ready to go all the way and if they do well they showing there worth.

Well Madrid are playing more as a team now, so really that is their key for the past few performance we are seeing. In the past all these guys (Ronaldo, Di Maria, Benzema) played for themselves now they are setting one another up. They have a total of 29 assists just in La Liga combined (Maria = 9, Roanldo = 6, Ozil = 6, Arbeloa = 3, Ramos = 3, Benzema = 2) and Goals Roanldo = 16, Higuain = 12, Benzema = 7, they have a total of 36 GD na damong those three it's 35 goals with 29 assists. If this continues no doubt Mourinho said will test victory this year.

Well, Chelsea got results yesterday after a few weeks, and indeed they will have a very busy transfer window.

Well, with Man U, they have won the past two games 1-0 and drew this one 1-1 and Hernedez scored every goal those games if they won it would have been a double hat trick for him 3 goals = 3 wins Newcastle isn't a push over this season, but I agree that Man U should have gotten this victory.

At least ManU got results from that game. I'm more pissed off, as Barca lost their first game of the season VS Gatafe and it ended their 27 unbeaten streak....27!! like Barca always does this, they set some crazy unbeaten ran and lose to a low lvl team, but there defense is in bad shape as Alves, Pique, Puyol, and Abidal go on and off injuries or have just returned which is a huge downfall for them. Barca is now chasing Madrid who are 6 points ahead in La Liga and I don't see Madrid dropping any points until Clasico, but even than they are going to be favs for that, as Barca defense will screw them over, but will see because we can't doubt Barca, there defense also had problems last year with Puyol and Abidal out, but they manage to win the league and CL.

Liverpool loses, or not won't be a huge difference as long as they don't lose by a huge number, I think Kenny will try for a draw to motivate his side, and a win would be great, as were City will want the win.

It's 1-1 55 mins in and a OG was done given by Lescott and Liverpool are playing pretty well as of now.

Mancini said that they'll try to get into Knockout rounds but for him, they won't do it. He said that they should now focus on making a treble of FA Cup, EPL and Europa League. He's optimist, I must say

Interesting stats. I'm getting pretty interested in the Classico now; especially that they might really kill the Liga in case of victory with 9 points ahead of Barca.

Yep but Chelsea's victory was not something to boast of. Atleast, they won and grabbed points. This week in EPL in Top 7: United, City, Newcastle, Arsenal and Liverpool all drawn. The best result was by Tottenham. They are now 2 points behind United and still have a match to be played.

Hernandez is a ball magnet. Newcastle is definitely not an easy team to play. Yohan Cabaye (MDF of Newcatle) said that playing United was harder than against City. He said that both have great qualities but they definitely suffered more against United while they controlled more the match against City and were unlucky to take 2 goal back-to-back in the last instances.

Lol, really 27. That's a lot though. Bit yeah, I didn't expected this defeat of Barca. Still, Getafe gave it their all and Barca was unlucky. There are days like that too...Too bad, those days don't occur in CL finals Real crushed Athletico heavily 4-1 too. Talking about improved teamwork... And who said Ronaldo don't play for the team? xD

The 1st half was very-well balanced. But in the last 20 minutes, Liverpool clearly had the upper hand as proven by the red card of Balottelli due to frustration too. Liverpool had their chances; too bad all 4-5 of them were denied by Joe Hart. In this match, City definitely didn't looked as if they were invincible. Mark my words, there'll be a time when City will succeed 3-4 draws/losses consecutively due to overconfidence. They have a tough schedule btw in the following weeks. Perhaps that time is soon and already started...

 

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Mancini said that they'll try to get into Knockout rounds but for him, they won't do it. He said that they should now focus on making a treble of FA Cup, EPL and Europa League. He's optimist, I must say

Interesting stats. I'm getting pretty interested in the Classico now; especially that they might really kill the Liga in case of victory with 9 points ahead of Barca.

Yep but Chelsea's victory was not something to boast of. Atleast, they won and grabbed points. This week in EPL in Top 7: United, City, Newcastle, Arsenal and Liverpool all drawn. The best result was by Tottenham. They are now 2 points behind United and still have a match to be played.

Hernandez is a ball magnet. Newcastle is definitely not an easy team to play. Yohan Cabaye (MDF of Newcatle) said that playing United was harder than against City. He said that both have great qualities but they definitely suffered more against United while they controlled more the match against City and were unlucky to take 2 goal back-to-back in the last instances.

Lol, really 27. That's a lot though. Bit yeah, I didn't expected this defeat of Barca. Still, Getafe gave it their all and Barca was unlucky. There are days like that too...Too bad, those days don't occur in CL finals Real crushed Athletico heavily 4-1 too. Talking about improved teamwork... And who said Ronaldo don't play for the team? xD

The 1st half was very-well balanced. But in the last 20 minutes, Liverpool clearly had the upper hand as proven by the red card of Balottelli due to frustration too. Liverpool had their chances; too bad all 4-5 of them were denied by Joe Hart. In this match, City definitely didn't looked as if they were invincible. Mark my words, there'll be a time when City will succeed 3-4 draws/losses consecutively due to overconfidence. They have a tough schedule btw in the following weeks. Perhaps that time is soon and already started...

He's smart to think ahead lol they still have a slight chance

Well tbh I bet Mou and Co. would love a win, but they would also settle with a draw as were Barca need the win.

Well, they are a team that can go all the way and the recent result is still satisfying for them, as it's better they got a win than a draw or loss. They recently lost the past 3-4 games I think, so the win is a boost for them at least I think they meet City next weekend?

I agree with Cabaye, United are still the team to beat in EPL and even in Europe competition as Barcelona are also. The recent 3-4 years Barcelona and Man U have dominated Europe with Barca getting the best of Man U tho. Man U loss to City was a huge hit to them, but I know they're still better and will hit City hard next time they meet. Man U attack the ball every time similar to what Barca do as Rooney has stated, which is why they pressure much better, but you don't win all the games.

Yes, 27 *sigh*. I guess it'll be a wake up call for them, weird this Tues (tomorrow) they are the only team playing this week from La Liga? So, they'll be a game ahead of everyone, but may get a rest during another weekday fixture. LOL Only if that would've happened When your in a final or a big game, every player/club are on a whole new level.

The result VS Athletico came from 2 red cards, one which was 21 minutes into the game and than 2 PK's taken by Ronaldo. Despite that Athletico got the first goal and if Falcao was playing with Athletico and not getting reds the result may have been different even tho I'd say Athletico would the least (possibly) draw the game, but that never happened.

Liverpool played as the better team even before the red card, but it's saddening they couldn't get the win over City. City will have a hard time, if not Chelsea, possible a lower team can beat them, but if they go undefeated when they meet United again a surely defeat IMO.

Liverpool wasted money of Carroll the worst investment in a player made. I mean Suarez costed about 11 million less, and is 100 times better. If Liverpool waited, they could have signed a better striker (centre). They are now after Adebayor also lol



I've been watching a few of his games with Brasil and Santos (Yes, I surprising watched Brazilian league, because of all this talk about Neymar wanted to see for myself). Ganso, is simply amazing! has what it takes to be the next best midfielder atm I think both Milan and Manu are competing for him, I'd like for him to sign with Man U as a great replacement for Giggs and gives Hernedez and Ronney more variety, while also strengthening Man U, but than again Milan look favs. I doubt Barca and Madrid will go for him as they have plenty of midfielders and atm they are more focused on Neymar.

Also tomorrow we have Curling Cup matches with City VS Arsenal and Liverpool VS Chelsea.