Does Sasuke still have 6 paths power.
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Yes, who has all the powers of the sage of the six paths can use these techniques. None of these guys here have brought factual proof as to why Madara can use preta path. And by the way Preta negates physical damage as long as the user is cloaked in chakra or is throwing Ninjutsu.
It says Preta can absorb the power of techniques like it or not. And it is proven in the manga. Take a look with your eyes open in this scan.
Look at the boiling oil touching preta feet but not doing any harm as it absorbs. How powerful is joraiya's oil? Take a look.
It can burn something completely with a single hit stated by Databook and that too it is 10 times more powerful than ordinary flame bombs he spews.
Look at this scan for undodgeable clear cut proof.
Preta's hands show it taking impact marks from the rasengan yet no scratches or injury in his hands while absorbing the ball rasengan. Preta is omnidirectional when wielded by Nagato yet Madara has to raise his arms to do it.
This Databook puts that foolish notion that Pain techniques = from Rinnegan. Simple. Where is Kekkei genkai listed in that? Nowhere. If it is Rinnegan technique it will be listed Kekkei genkai. But it is a hidden technique or clan technique as you see the (-) symbol in the right side. That symbol denotes if the technique is a kekkei genkai or secret technique and in this case it is a secret technique.
Look the preta databook for Christ's sake.
It is not written Kekkei Genkai. So stop.
Even the 4th Databook says Hades King is a secret/clan technique with no relation to Rinnegan.
And even among all these techniques, there are some paths which not even Sage Of Six Paths can use. Example:
Look at the wording of hell king DB and Shinra Tensei DB. Pain Rikudou and just Rikudou. Which means not even Sage of Six paths can use Shinra tensei and only Hell King according to Databook. Look at Bansho tenin.
Bansho tenin = Pain Rikudou like ST = Only Nagato as user. So why is not the Sage Of Six Paths listed as the user of ST and BT? Not even Human Path is Rikudou technique but Pain Rikudou Technique.
Which proves Obito was lying as the Databook do not state it as a Rinnegan Technique nor a Rikudou Technique. And none of Pains techniques are called Kekkei Genkai despite majority thinking they are Rinnegan Techniques and despite Sasuke's Ameno classified as Kekkei Genkai lol.
Look clearly with your eyes open lol. Sage Of The Six Paths cannot perform 3 of The Paths Techniques at the least and none of the paths are Kekkei Genkai in other words not Rinnegan Techniques. Debunked this notion.
And what if Hashirama knows Rinne Tensei? You guys strawmanning to desperately give feats to Madara which he do not have? LMAO. So damn desperate asf ya'll are. Madara knew Eight Gates yet he said it was his first time seeing the technique lol. Hashirama knows the legends and lores of Six Paths Techniques which only Sage and Nagato share. Viz says "Nagato devoloped the technique" which means the concept and basics already existed. Stop strawmanning.
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Even the 4th Databook says Hades King is a secret/clan technique with no relation to Rinnegan.
Jigokudou
It's a heartless act to manipulate life and death by calling on the ruler of hades!!
The soul of the living is pulled out in-order to be eaten, this hijutsu (hidden jutsu, I.E. clan jutsu) calls out the ruler of hades. To lay down life's burden unconditionally the soul is eaten. The power is drawn out the instant the jutsu users touches (litterally to lay ones hands on) someone, resistance is impossible. Once grasped the person can only await death. Directed towards judging the authenticity of the answer to the question, the gift of a tranquil death awaits a person who states falsehoods.
Because Rikudou's power is, authority over the god who rules over life and death. To let live and to kill, entrusting everything to the ruler of hades.
It's a heartless act to manipulate life and death by calling on the ruler of hades!!
The soul of the living is pulled out in-order to be eaten, this hijutsu (hidden jutsu, I.E. clan jutsu) calls out the ruler of hades. To lay down life's burden unconditionally the soul is eaten. The power is drawn out the instant the jutsu users touches (litterally to lay ones hands on) someone, resistance is impossible. Once grasped the person can only await death. Directed towards judging the authenticity of the answer to the question, the gift of a tranquil death awaits a person who states falsehoods.
Because Rikudou's power is, authority over the god who rules over life and death. To let live and to kill, entrusting everything to the ruler of hades.
Shinra-tensei (All-Nature Repulsion).*
Ninjutsu, Keke-genkai, offensive, defensive, close range.
Users:Nagato
Invisible hand of God, that repels anything in creation!
Pain Tendou uses this jutsu, utilizing the generated from the users hands repulsive (gravity) force to repel targets away. The number of targets that can be repelled and their size are irrelevant . In addition by stopping the utilization of other Pain paths the amount of chakra put in the jutsu, its strength and area of effect can be greatly increased. With one strike of its power entire Konoha no sato (Konoha village) was turned to smoldering ash. But after this jutsu has been triggered there is a small five second window it can't be used again. The originating repulsion force generated by the power of all creation”shinra obiki” (something that binds all together,so likely gravitation) forces its targets to collide together with a great force and put out additional damage, combined together with the initial force (shock wave) it puts up even more damage. Only those who can manipulate all chakra transformation properties (seishitsu) legendary “Rinnegan” wielders are allowed to posses this jutsu that has all rights to be called “crystally perfect”.*
Picture: Its repulsion force is so strong that even ninjutsu and taijutsu are equally ineffective against this jutsu, with an unexpected discharge of the invisible force, it is very easy to catch opponents off guard .
So it seems that shinra tensei uses natural gravitational force, and only the one who has all chakra transformation (including yin-yang) can manipulate natural gravity field (shinra obiki).
P.S Sorry for mistakes English isn't his native language.
Ninjutsu, Keke-genkai, offensive, defensive, close range.
Users:Nagato
Invisible hand of God, that repels anything in creation!
Pain Tendou uses this jutsu, utilizing the generated from the users hands repulsive (gravity) force to repel targets away. The number of targets that can be repelled and their size are irrelevant . In addition by stopping the utilization of other Pain paths the amount of chakra put in the jutsu, its strength and area of effect can be greatly increased. With one strike of its power entire Konoha no sato (Konoha village) was turned to smoldering ash. But after this jutsu has been triggered there is a small five second window it can't be used again. The originating repulsion force generated by the power of all creation”shinra obiki” (something that binds all together,so likely gravitation) forces its targets to collide together with a great force and put out additional damage, combined together with the initial force (shock wave) it puts up even more damage. Only those who can manipulate all chakra transformation properties (seishitsu) legendary “Rinnegan” wielders are allowed to posses this jutsu that has all rights to be called “crystally perfect”.*
Picture: Its repulsion force is so strong that even ninjutsu and taijutsu are equally ineffective against this jutsu, with an unexpected discharge of the invisible force, it is very easy to catch opponents off guard .
So it seems that shinra tensei uses natural gravitational force, and only the one who has all chakra transformation (including yin-yang) can manipulate natural gravity field (shinra obiki).
P.S Sorry for mistakes English isn't his native language.
Banshō Ten'in
A power is seen that is absolutely unavoidable!
A god's palm draws in all creation!!
One person among the Pain Rikudou, a Jutsu that manipulates gravitation pull is utilized by Tendou. With oneself in the center the ability to draw in all matter exists. The right hand, to the palm of this hand the matter that makes up the target, everything is forcibly (literally whether one likes it or not) drawn in. These are the targets final moments, as there are no means to struggle against it, all must obey this gravitational pull.*
The gravitational pull's power can be useful, it becomes possible to distract and draw the enemy into an attack
A power is seen that is absolutely unavoidable!
A god's palm draws in all creation!!
One person among the Pain Rikudou, a Jutsu that manipulates gravitation pull is utilized by Tendou. With oneself in the center the ability to draw in all matter exists. The right hand, to the palm of this hand the matter that makes up the target, everything is forcibly (literally whether one likes it or not) drawn in. These are the targets final moments, as there are no means to struggle against it, all must obey this gravitational pull.*
The gravitational pull's power can be useful, it becomes possible to distract and draw the enemy into an attack
Ningendou
Instant communion of mind with mind!
Holding ones psyche in the palm of their hand the soul is robbed!!*
Pain Rikudou possesses a power similar to causing the death of a human being, one of the abilities among the six. To pull out a human beings soul, is a jutsu to snatch away ones life.*
The hand guides the soul to ascend to heaven. One's final moments come when the hand is placed on their head, everyone of ones own feelings/thoughts not a single one is out of reach, an exceedingly inhuman ninjutsu. An Indispensable device, in several seconds the caster will be inside ones head and be able to read their memories, on occasion to investigate a target the opponent is cross examined, it's then that it displays maximum effectiveness. Consent or refusal as it were, opponent information is deciphered. As thought is prohibited a quite fear approaches, a power that is "a work of god", it's possible to say this jutsu is taboo!
The end comes when ones memories are read, it's only natural that instant death comes to those that are useless.
Instant communion of mind with mind!
Holding ones psyche in the palm of their hand the soul is robbed!!*
Pain Rikudou possesses a power similar to causing the death of a human being, one of the abilities among the six. To pull out a human beings soul, is a jutsu to snatch away ones life.*
The hand guides the soul to ascend to heaven. One's final moments come when the hand is placed on their head, everyone of ones own feelings/thoughts not a single one is out of reach, an exceedingly inhuman ninjutsu. An Indispensable device, in several seconds the caster will be inside ones head and be able to read their memories, on occasion to investigate a target the opponent is cross examined, it's then that it displays maximum effectiveness. Consent or refusal as it were, opponent information is deciphered. As thought is prohibited a quite fear approaches, a power that is "a work of god", it's possible to say this jutsu is taboo!
The end comes when ones memories are read, it's only natural that instant death comes to those that are useless.
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And what if Hashirama knows Rinne Tensei? You guys strawmanning to desperately give feats to Madara which he do not have? LMAO. So damn desperate asf ya'll are. Madara knew Eight Gates yet he said it was his first time seeing the technique lol. Hashirama knows the legends and lores of Six Paths Techniques which only Sage and Nagato share. Viz says "Nagato devoloped the technique" which means the concept and basics already existed. Stop strawmanning.
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Throw these fanfics somewhere. What "Six Paths Jutsu" did he learn exactly? Care to show what he learned? Lol? Just one piece of poor fanfics are not gonna change over 10 scans I piled up to prove Pain techniques =/= Sasuke and Madara. Wow the salt....
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I swear all of you just don't know how to read
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Maybe it's only the older members that remember what I said about six path of pain jutsus being different than Six path justus because you guys think Madara was talking about the same thing.
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Calling the manga a fanfic? damn, that's something coming from one that thinks susano'o is a spirit.
You might want to relax a little, you're going to pull a muscle with that reaching. I mean, already negating the manga is tyrance level, but pointing that madara in that pic doesn't have a rinnegan (like you could see it if it has it anyways in that 2x2 px size), when we already know that by that time he already had it awakened its just sad. Also, like any dojutsu, Rinnegan can be activated, like:
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Oh no! Madara lost the rinnegan! ....
Why? Because madara awakened the rinnegan on his own, and it's his own eyes, it's not like the sharingan kakashi has that's always activated and cannot be turned off. Also, why would it matter if it had it or not activated there? It's not like he taught obito the six path, the forbidden jutsu and yin-yang release in one manga panel ... geez, it's almost abusive to keep this going on, just take the L with some dignity and move on
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Geez....you cannot even provide proofs for this asinine fanfics which make up almost 99% of your posts but you still wanna deflect whatever facts I posted? Desperations at it's finest lol. Show me proof Madara/Sasuke/Obito using Human Path. Using Shinra Tensei. Using Bansho Tenin. Using Hades King. Using Demonic Realm. Using Preta Path specifically by calling it by name and not some momo- kinny shiki absorption lol. Geez...at this point you are just in severe denial lol. Accept the fabulous L and move on...it's okay man, we can be wrong at times. Do not care one bit for silly narratives and your fanfics lol. "IT's not like he taught Obito Six paths techniques in one panel...lol lol lol. Blah blah blah do not care for statement BS like these lol. Bring proofs, then we will talk okay? Lol!
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Rikudou Tobi
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1. Madara gave his rinnegan to Nagato as soon as he awakened it.
2. Madara said he was going to teach obito six path jutsus in the cave in neither both had the rinnegan in the first place. In order for you to teach someone a doujutsu in the first place you would need the rinnegan, even to learn the rinnegan jutsus you still need the rinnegan in the first place. Obviously he was talking about Six path jyubi coffin seal and Gedo arts as the six path justus
3. Nagato never learned the anything from the stone tablets, he never went to konoha either to learn them. Yet he knows all the six path pain jutsus, because he used madara's rinnegan to create them.
4. Oh no!!!! Edo Madara is able to revert is fake edo tensei eyes Kabuto gave to him:
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Because Madara died in the cave without the rinnegan. That rinnegan modification was created by kabuto and the improved hashirama tissue was added on by kabuto too. He even made that Madara younger too.
5.The funny thing is that actually believe the rinnegan can revert back to the sharingan because of some fake edo tensei eyes which is stupid. Once you get the rinnegan it doesn not digress to its previous form. It permanently stays there and it can't switch on and off like a sharingan. Sasuke can vouch for me on this one:
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So you're out here talking all this shit tying to seem funny by calling me tryance level but every shit post is below that. At the very list he used manga pages but you can't even use one. All you do is spout nonesense headcanon and laugh at anyone who disagrees.
You look stupid. Look at all the shit you just claimed now. claiming that the rinnegan can turn off? You mean those fake asf edo tensei eyes Kabuto created? Even Madara's real rinnegan eyes never reverted to the way it was before as well as Sasuke. Just keep going kid.
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lol that Uverdore kid ignored this because it proves him wrong lmao Nagato didn't invent shit.
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Wasnt Hashirama there when Madara tired to use Obito to revive himself? He would definitely know about it.
1- Proof or gtfo. Actually, let me refute that just now: To summon Gedo Mazo from the Moon, he needed the Rinnegan, so "as soon" as he got it, not only he implanted the flesh of Hashirama and let it produce the zetsu army, he could already reap the benefits and knowledge from it, including of course the derived jutsu.
2- Cry all you want, the manga is clear, even in both translations. Madara had the rinnegan, so obviously he already knew how to perform the six paths, and use the onmyouton too. Even if at the time obito couldn't use the jutsu for obvious reasons, that doesn't mean he couldn't teach him what they were and how to use it.
3- Or perhaps he knows them as Kakashi knows Kamui ...
4- That was never an issue, we already know Madara died without his rinnegan. Point is, Rinnegan can be activated/deactivated as shown with Edo Madara. (not that it really matters for this topic when in the same manga panel you have him saying that he will teach Obito the six paths jutsu ... )
5- I didn't say revert back to sharingan, I say it can be activated as any natural dojutsu user. Also, he didn't awake it naturally like Madara or any other dojutsu user for that matter, so no.
I don't even have to take you seriously at this point, not only you have textual manga proof that Madara knew the paths, you have indirect proof as well (Kakashi and Gai's hypothesis which Obito confirms) as direct (Madara using preta to absorb ninjutsu and chakra cloaks) and so you're trying to deviate the proven facts in this thread. So we switched from Rinnegan users using the paths (which was already proven and you just have conceded on that) to "can dojutsu be turned off"? Man, stop hoarding the L's , confer with your little trollish group and come back with something a bit solid.
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Well that scan is actually the very first time Madara attempted to force Obito to revive himself (and failed) so Hashirama already knew about the technique by name and linked it to the sage of six paths.
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As Alchemy said that was the first time madara attempted using it and he never even mentioned the name while doing so. Just by looking at the handseals, Hashirama could tell it was Rinne tensei so it was obviously already in existence in their era. It came from Hagoromo most likely
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That's what I'm thinking that would mean the Senju also inherited knowledge from the sage but to a lesser extent. Then again they dont know about Hogaromo or the connection like the Uchiha. So it could be from BZ, because he's been trying to revive his mother for around a thousand years. He has mentioned he's approached incarnates from both clans.
Well if we go by war arc JJ Madara then No..
Madara states that Naruto had six paths senjutsu & Sasuke had the Rinnegan which he said that he had both..
It's difficult to tell because of the content in which they use these terms..
As a viewer I would say yes but as far as the series it would seem like he doesn't..
I say that because JJ's had to have both senjutsu & the Rinne to be complete.. While Nagato didn't have senjutsu but had the Rinnegan & still did what JJ's did on a smaller scale..
I'm on the belief that Naruto & Sasuke are missing halves of each others power..
Naruto lacks the Rinne while Sasuke lacks the six paths senjutsu or six paths..
It's really weird when all is taken in correctly..
Madara states that Naruto had six paths senjutsu & Sasuke had the Rinnegan which he said that he had both..
It's difficult to tell because of the content in which they use these terms..
As a viewer I would say yes but as far as the series it would seem like he doesn't..
I say that because JJ's had to have both senjutsu & the Rinne to be complete.. While Nagato didn't have senjutsu but had the Rinnegan & still did what JJ's did on a smaller scale..
I'm on the belief that Naruto & Sasuke are missing halves of each others power..
Naruto lacks the Rinne while Sasuke lacks the six paths senjutsu or six paths..
It's really weird when all is taken in correctly..
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What the **** are you on about? I'm talking about it being all in the same year span. Madara old when obito met him and nagato was about 4 years older than obito.
***** all you want because your fanfic is fanfic. In viz translation the manga referred to pain's powers as Pain's jutsus or six path of pain jutsus. Six path jutsu is Gedo art and Jyubi Coffin seal period. And Obito and madara could use the six path jutsus at the time otherwise he obviously wouldn't be able to learn it.
six path of pain jutsu≠Six path jutsu. They're completely different and you're gonna have to learn how to deal with it.
Fanfic is fanfic, Kamui is not the rinnegan.
Those are fake eyes you dumbass. Madara can't revert his real eyes and neither can Sasuke.
You don't need a rinnegan to use the Six path jutsus because Six path jutsus is just Gedo arts/jyubi coffin seal. Uchiha and senju powers are sufficient.
To bad the manga says they don't. So manga>you.
Comparing fake eyes that can't even summon gedo mazou to actual rinnegan eyes.
Useless fanfic speculations and stupid opinions. I showed you the manga of the real rinnegan eyes not being able to be deactivated and you stupidly ignored every post to continue with your senseless headcanon.
Madara never deactivated his real rinnegan eyes and neither did Sasuke, deal with it. Rinnegan is not regular doujutsu that you can compare to the sharingan, it's two seperate doujutsus. Like I said before.
SHOW ME SHINRA TENSEI SHOW ME SHURADO SHOW ME KING OF HADES.
^^If you can't do that then stfu and leave. All you have is stupid speculations which i don't care for. ONLY SOLID FACTS AND FEATS.
You're a waste of my time. Don't reply me
I love it how you say "fanfic this", "fanfic that" to negate the manga. Don't be so salty
1 - And? What's the point here? You think that madara needed more than a year to learn the six paths when he learned senjutsu techniques pretty much the same time he became juubi jin? or even casted mugen tsukuyomi the second que got the rinnesharingan? :lol please
2- Manga > your fanfic about six path jutsu =/= six path pain jutsu. Seriously, why do you negate the manga so hard?
3- Did someone teach Kakashi how to use basic sharingan skills? MS skills? Did anyone taught Ao how to use the byakugan? Did anyone taught Danzo how to use Izanagi? Manga > your salt.
4- :lol then how did he went from sharingan -> rinnegan while edo? Don't be so salty.
5- Don't be so salty son. Here, have a go at this again (viz this time):
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