[Discussion] Admiral vs Yonko

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You know what I mean. The typical top 3 commanders of a yonkou crew. All in the same ballpark with high/extreme diffs all around.
Not really.
Ace can't beat Marco.
Same way we can say that Cracker has no chance against Katakuri(after all the Katakuri got Awakening) and he can easily stop his biscuit soldiers by his DF abilities.
So these fights need not to be high/extreme diff.
 

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Wait this guy actually thinks that? Lmfao if I knew that I wouldn't of bothered even quoting, the nonsense being spewed here makes sense now.
He also thinks that Crocodile can beat Doflamingo if they fight in a desert, and he implied that only top tiers can beat Desert Croc.
 

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I never said Buggy, Teach, and Mihawk were on the same level as those guys you dumbass.


No you made no effort at all, all you do is cry about how you get insulted after you finish insulting somebody who doesn't agree with your opinion. You're annoying and act like a child just because your voice wasn't heard by someone plausible who doesn't give a shit about what you think. Simple as that



See how much of an annoying idiot you are? You think I can't pick up on your lies?
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Mingo did not keep "underestimating" Luffy. He lost, plain and simple. Even Tashigi told Dofy the truth straight to his face, and Dofy retorted that he would've won if Fujitori helped him like he was suppose to. Any speculation of him holding back is straight nonsense, he threw all his strongest techniques at Gear 4 and Gear 4 overwhelmed him with superior power.


You never debunked anything, I always trash your idiotic post and then you complain about your feelings getting hurt. I always beat you so you have no right of getting high and mighty over hear. I even get +rep from people everytime I debunk that dumb shit you keep saying. Not once have you every use the manga. It's always "i feel like this is right therefore it's right," that headcannon you keep forcing people to believe.


1. Deal with it Fujitori called the fight off
2. Dying whitbeard knocked Akainu head down to the ground. So what idiot would say that Akainu is stronger? He had to tunnel his way from underground after getting beaten.
3. I never said prime Whitebeard is stronger than Aokiji and Akaini, stupid.
4. Doflamingo was unconscious after getting hit by Luffy. So those are some great facts right there. Why does your Vanderpiece show Doflamingo killing Luffy in their fight?
5. I said Mihawk is Yonkou level you moron.


Sad and pathetic. Stop wasting my time.
I thought you said you didn't care? You must care A LOT for such a passionate and frustrated reply dear god.

You said there is a warlord level which is blatantly false as all warlords greatly fluctuates in strength. Its a blatant contradiction but of course, you're the all so righteous warrior who's never wrong.

How many times do you have to tell people "I beat you!" "I won this debate!!" "I debunked your sh!t!!"? Jesus calm down with that winning is everything mentality. More irony on how you talk about literacy yet you couldn't understand that the "debunking" part was addressed to you. Never said I debunked anything and to think I have to explain something so basic...again the irony....

I also meant Mingo was stronger than Luffy in general as G4 isn't enough to achieve victory. Technicality Mingo is stronger but at the same time he's not. Don't know if you can comprehend something this simple though as it seems to difficult for you. Just saying. Not trying to diss. There was also BLATANT underestimation on Mingo's side.

You seem to be under the impression that calling people names, elevating yourself etc. masks the blatant flaws and contradiction in your logic. All that talk about feelings shows how you're only focused on feeling big n' bad. You may continue with your ranting. Your replies are actually entertaining.
 

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Not really.
Ace can't beat Marco.
Same way we can say that Cracker has no chance against Katakuri(after all the Katakuri got Awakening) and he can easily stop his biscuit soldiers by his DF abilities.
So these fights need not to be high/extreme diff.
Never said they can all defeat each other. We don't how strong Ace was regardless so he's a wild card. Cracker & Kata are the same level and the same goes for Marco. if you want to make crazy levels where only 2 characters each fall into, then go ahead. As for me, all that is unnecessary and helps with nothing.

You can say Jack loses to Marco 10/10, but it doesn't change that they are on the same level and that it would be at least high diff.

Wait this guy actually thinks that? Lmfao if I knew that I wouldn't of bothered even quoting, the nonsense being spewed here makes sense now.
Yeah only reply to him to entertain yourself at how blatantly stupid and contradiction his points are. Where have you been? Lmao

He justified Sabo=Fujitora by saying "Deal with it. Fuji called it a fight!" and said Sabo's bruises was nothing but dust and the breathing heavily was irrelevant.

He also thinks there is a warlord level but also loses his sh1t when someone implies he thinks every warlord are the same level. So there is a warlord level but the warlords are on different levels? How does he not notice such blatant contradiction? lol
 
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I thought you said you didn't care? You must care A LOT for such a passionate and frustrated reply dear god.
Well you're retarded, because nothing I said here is passionate.

You said there is a warlord level which is blatantly false as all warlords greatly fluctuates in strength. Its a blatant contradiction but of course, you're the all so righteous warrior who's never wrong.
So you're just assuming again, what I surprised. Even after I said Mihawk was yonkou level since I first came to this section.
You sound stupid again. I guess according to your logic since Garp is vice admiral, that means he's vice admiral too huh? Like stfu already.

How many times do you have to tell people "I beat you!" "I won this debate!!" "I debunked your sh!t!!"? Jesus calm down with that winning is everything mentality. More irony on how you talk about literacy yet you couldn't understand that the "debunking" part was addressed to you. Never said I debunked anything and to think I have to explain something so basic...again the irony....
In your previous posts you always say you "debunked" this or "countered" that. And I have no idea why you're getting hyped or yelling for anyways. Half of this shit doesn't even make sense.

I also meant Mingo was stronger than Luffy in general as G4 isn't enough to achieve victory. Technicality Mingo is stronger but at the same time he's not. Don't know if you can comprehend something this simple though as it seems to difficult for you. Just saying. Not trying to diss. There was also BLATANT underestimation on Mingo's side.
Jesus Christ :lmao:
You seem to be under the impression that calling people names, elevating yourself etc. masks the blatant flaws and contradiction in your logic. All that talk about feelings shows how you're only focused on feeling big n' bad. You may continue with your ranting. Your replies are actually entertaining.
Oh look, you're crying again despite the fact that I told you 3 times already to stop replying me but here you are complaining about ranting and what not. I didn't contradicting myself.

He also thinks that Crocodile can beat Doflamingo if they fight in a desert, and he implied that only top tiers can beat Desert Croc.
Coming from the idiot that thinks Doflamingo can beat Jinbei in the Ocean. And you think Alabasta luffy beats Crocodile in the desert.
 

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Well you're retarded, because nothing I said here is passionate.


So you're just assuming again, what I surprised. Even after I said Mihawk was yonkou level since I first came to this section.
You sound stupid again. I guess according to your logic since Garp is vice admiral, that means he's vice admiral too huh? Like stfu already.


In your previous posts you always say you "debunked" this or "countered" that. And I have no idea why you're getting hyped or yelling for anyways. Half of this shit doesn't even make sense.


Jesus Christ :lmao:

Oh look, you're crying again despite the fact that I told you 3 times already to stop replying me but here you are complaining about ranting and what not. I didn't contradicting myself.


Coming from the idiot that thinks Doflamingo can beat Jinbei in the Ocean. And you think Alabasta luffy beats Crocodile in the desert.
What feats does Underwater Jinbe have? Obviously Doffy would lose if they fought in the ocean since he'd drown, but nothing indicates that Underwater Jinbe is stronger.
 

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What feats does Underwater Jinbe have? Obviously Doffy would lose if they fought in the ocean since he'd drown, but nothing indicates that Underwater Jinbe is stronger.
:lmao: So you're telling me that you've never seen and underwater jinbei before? Somehow I'm not surprised that you skipped the fisherman island chapter or even some feats he showed after they escaped the impel down.
And Crocodile in desert is like Jimbei in the ocean, they excel a lot in their element because if Dofy fought in the desert he would sink into quick sand just like how he would drown underwater against Jinbei so he'll need sky path just to survive. I see Crocodile and Jinbei to be on the same level within the Warlord tier class.
 

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:lmao: So you're telling me that you've never seen and underwater jinbei before? Somehow I'm not surprised that you skipped the fisherman island chapter or even some feats he showed after they escaped the impel down.
And Crocodile in desert is like Jimbei in the ocean, they excel a lot in their element because if Dofy fought in the desert he would sink into quick sand just like how he would drown underwater against Jinbei so he'll need sky path just to survive. I see Crocodile and Jinbei to be on the same level within the Warlord tier class.
So beating up fodders like Wadatsumi is an amazing feat now?
 

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>Jinbei in water is like Crocodile in a desert

Why this man Variah hate Jinbei lmaoooo
He doesn't hate Jinbe, he just wanks Croc.

He's one of those people who thinks that Croc got a buff somehow after Alabasta because of his MF showings, even though Croc was all bark and no bite during MF. Croc's most impressive feat at MF is not getting killed in one hit by Jozu, but even MF Luffy could survive a serious hit from someone even stronger than Jozu.
 

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He doesn't hate Jinbe, he just wanks Croc.

He's one of those people who thinks that Croc got a buff somehow after Alabasta because of his MF showings, even though Croc was all bark and no bite during MF. Croc's most impressive feat at MF is not getting killed in one hit by Jozu, but even MF Luffy could survive a serious hit from someone even stronger than Jozu.
lmaooo right? I can't beleive people still hype "Desert Crocodile." The second he merge with the desert and become one with it, any half-decent current fighter with Haki can just start stomping down and he passes out from the pain
 

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lmaooo right? I can't beleive people still hype "Desert Crocodile." The second he merge with the desert and become one with it, any half-decent current fighter with Haki can just start stomping down and he passes out from the pain
But Crocodile said that he's unbeatable in the desert, so it must be true! One Piece characters never overrate themselves!
 

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Oh okay. Well Doflamingo said that Gear 2 was faster but it was too weak in power for him.
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Luffy was able to tag dofy in a volley, deflect doffy's bullet strings with hawk whip, and hit Dofy with jet bazooka once (the second time he dodged it). The only people I know who out sped post time skip Luffy's Gear 2 is Dogtooth. So I think yonkou firstmates level people are the ones that are capable of beating G2 speed and beating G3 luffy's power for power at the same time like Dogtooth did. Those would be people like Marco, Jack(maybe), Dogtooth, Benn Beckman and up type of level.
That was one occurance.. doffy laughed about his attacks tickling him. Sure gear 2nd can keep up with doffy but overall doffy is faster especially when taking in account his mobility in the air. Doffy laughed off all of gear 2nd attacks because he really didn't care about them to begin with.

Tagging someone for most part is actually getting good hit in. If your hit didn't do damage is it really tagging him (again gear 2nd can keep up with doffy. However doffy at max speed While injured could react and dodge gear 4th. Though overall gear 4th being faster then him at least injured anyway.
 

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So beating up fodders like Wadatsumi is an amazing feat now?
Wadatsumi is not a fodder but I'm not gonna pretend that he's anything significant either. His fisherman jijutsu is also more powerful than steroid Hody (beat his water arrow).

With Wadatsumi he's a giant who could expand his mass with air to be even bigger than the cracken which would take Gear 3 luffy elephant gun haki to knock him out and Jinbei did it with Mighty Reliant Piercing by sending him flying towards the air.

That just shows how powerful Jinbei is physically underwater and his water jiujitsu techniques were greater than Hody under water which required Gear 2 and then later on Gear 3 luffy to completely put Hody away unconscious underwater. JInbei himself didn't even need to put an effort underwater so Jinbei still has feats underwater and communicating with whale sharks is just another bonus too.
He doesn't hate Jinbe, he just wanks Croc.

He's one of those people who thinks that Croc got a buff somehow after Alabasta because of his MF showings, even though Croc was all bark and no bite during MF. Croc's most impressive feat at MF is not getting killed in one hit by Jozu, but even MF Luffy could survive a serious hit from someone even stronger than Jozu.
So just because of your ignorance of PIS all of a sudden you can talk shit now? Like let's ignore the fact that Crocodile one-shot an awakened Jailbreak guard in the impel down which required Luffy Gear 3 to completely knock out the thing as much as Sables and fisherman karate 5,000 bricks did right?

Because Alabsta luffy would definitely stand a chance against those awakened beast? I'm not wanking, I'm actually using my fucking brain because the way you depicted crocodile to be weaker than Alabasta luffy would mean that he would not survive the paramouth war let alone the New world. But he already went there twice and came out fine but you know that just flew past your head.
So you can laugh it up with that Riker idiot why he sits there and preach about Vergo being stronger than Law and Luffy, Law being stronger than Luffy, Doflaimngo being stronger than Luffy, and Doflammingo being on Admiral level.

Oh yeah wait wait. And Admiral also being as strong or stronger than Yonkous, so that means he's saying that Doflamingo is as strong or stronger than a Yonkou. Funny part is that he probably did say that at one point too. So you clowns keep laughing.
 
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That was one occurance.. doffy laughed about his attacks tickling him. Sure gear 2nd can keep up with doffy but overall doffy is faster especially when taking in account his mobility in the air. Doffy laughed off all of gear 2nd attacks because he really didn't care about them to begin with.
I know he laughed it off but he still got him like a few times in Gear2, he needed to move with sky path just to keep up. Gear 2 wasn't strong enough to put down Dofy for good.
Tagging someone for most part is actually getting good hit in. If your hit didn't do damage is it really tagging him (again gear 2nd can keep up with doffy. However doffy at max speed While injured could react and dodge gear 4th. Though overall gear 4th being faster then him at least injured anyway.
It did injure Dofy, it just wasn't enough to knock him out. Those are what you call parry shots/jabs. However Doflamingo getting injured doesn't mean anything since Luffy was also injured too when he was fighting Luffy in base, gear 2, 3, and 4th. He still would not be fast enough to catch up with gear 4. All law did was ruptured an organ inside dofy without external openings. He stitched that back together so he had no problems moving anyways.
 

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lmaooo right? I can't beleive people still hype "Desert Crocodile."The second he merge with the desert and become one with it, any half-decent current fighter with Haki can just start stomping down and he passes out from the pain
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But Crocodile said that he's unbeatable in the desert, so it must be true! One Piece characters never overrate themselves!

Lmao not only that, he's giving a character a blatant advantage in order to claim that character in strong. Akainu>Roger & Prime WB cause he's unstoppable on volcanic islands.
 

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Someone get this guy a map, my dude Rikudou Tobi what bootleg version of One Piece you reading lmfaoo?

Sabo = Fujitora?...lmfaooo nahh thats shit tier reading comprehension that has to be called out.
 
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