MS Sasuke was a level above SM Naruto

[King Of Pop]

Oh u made sasuke struggled against a fodder lmao. Naruto doesn't need sm for danzo who did nothing but misuse his techs then fall for a weak ass genjutsu. If all danzo is gonna do is waste his sharigan and talking when he should kill someone anybody beats the fodder its sasuke who just had a hard time lmao

stop posting already as your stupidity is making my eyes bleed. smh, naruto faptards at their finest

 

[Liquid Snake]

Bruh, no matter how many times we go, you'll always end up more salty than before, so do yourself a favor and stop making a clown of yourself.:lol


I'd take being a nobody than live nano second in your shoes.:bdpf:

Why is this nobody still quoting me lol

 

[Liquid Snake]

stop posting already as your stupidity is making my eyes bleed. smh, naruto faptards at their finest

Lmao another nobody coming for me?? Im surprised ur ass isnt bleeding from being so butthurt lol sasuke faptards at their finest lmao

 

[Jiren]

This is still going on Sasuke stomps get over it.

 

[Nick01]

SM Naruto wrecks. Enough already.

 

[KidGamer65]

Well thanks for the scans that exactly what I meant. Nagato clearly placed the Paths according to their importance. He already sacrificed human path once to save animal path and preta path is standing very close right next to the animal path. From that distance the human path could easily jump in between or preta could always try to absorb the arrow and if that fails and the animal path is taken down with some luck then Preta path can always postition itself to intercept the next arrow on Deva or Naraka meanwhile Naraka resurrects Animal path back. So Sasuke's susanoo arrow may take down a few paths but only those which Nagato is ready to sacrifice. Those straighforward susanoo arrow aren't gonna take down preta, deva or naraka even if Sasuke fires a 100 arrows. Btw, while Sasuke enters Susanoo the animal path could always summon its summonings and block a direct line of sight between Sasuke and the paths using the multi headed dogs while the other summonings attack the susanoo directly where Sasuke would be like a sitting duck unless he uses amaterasu while using Susanoo to take down the dog summoning as susanoo arrows will only complicate matters for him against the dog. So amaterasu plus Susanoo quite taxing again.
Now as for Sasuke's susanoo being huge in size and able to take down Deva and Naraka directly bypassing Preta's defense then that only comes to picture if Sasuke's susanoo is close enough to make that height an advantage. Since we're debating about Sasuske vs Pein in the same situation as Naruto vs Pein then you should know they started pretty far off from each other. Much farther than the distance where Kakashi wasn't able to move away from the susanno arrow but if you want to continue from this distance I don't mind. So lets say Sasuke is standing close enough to target deva and naraka directly using his susanoo's height, then here's how it can be countered

Preta Path is 2-3 feet from Animal and farther from the rest. Kakashi needed Kamui against Susanoo Arrow and you've yet to show that Preta is faster than Kakashi thus there is no arguing that he jumps in front of the arrow. That alone renders a large portion of this post irrelevant.

With Naruto's intel Sasuke knows that Naraka can revive bodies thus he'd die second as he cannot evade Amaterasu or Susanoo Arrow either. The bold was addressed as well. Enton doesn't require the same chakra nor does it strain Sasuke like Amaterasu does and one shot of Enton results in the summons being defeated. Spamming fodder creatures does nothing. Stamina is not an issue in that facet of this battle.

Nothing stops Sasuke from getting closer so the set distance doesn't really matter here.

- First is animal path summons its summoning and overwhelm Sasuke while blocking his line of sight, forcing him to use amaterasu and susanoo defense at the same time to take down the summonings. At this point animal purpose has served its purpose. Meanwhile Preta moves closer to Sasuke's susanoo in all that confusion and absorbs it away. Sasuke loses a significant amount of chakra and is at huge disadvantage against the paths. Or the paths place themselves at a comfortable distance from his susanoo.

You already said this and I addressed it above. Amaterasu is not needed to take down any summons nor does this create any diversion that lets Preta approach Susanoo and absorb it. Let's use common sense here. Summons block what's behind them, not what is side by side or in front of them since Preta will be approaching Sasuke himself.

Well already countered above, animal path could always use the summons to block his line of sight and the only option for Sasuke to take them out is using amaterasu. And lol he's not going to take down all the summons with a single use of enton, he'd have to target each and every one of them individually while keeping his susanoo up and that's sure gonna be taxing on him no matter how you try to deny it by giving examples of Sasuke vs Danzo or how Itachi used his susanoo for a short time and died. Besides the whole point of using the summons was to distract and force him to use his MS techs.

No, it's not. He fought Danzo for over 10 minutes. Itachi was terminally ill on his deathbed and held it up for a few minutes. Sasuke was spamming Enton against Gaara. Stop trying to exaggerate stamina issues to make your argument look stronger than it actually is.

Well in terms of strength SM Naruto has the advantage in taijutsu due to frog kata while MS Sasuke has an advantage in ninjutsu due to his MS abilities. So the one with better tactics would win.

We aren't talking about physical strength, we are talking about overall strength. This comparison doesn't even make sense. Naruto being better at Taijutsu while Sasuke has better Ninjutsu doesn't result in the one with the better tactics winning. Zero correlation.

Lol V4 and susanoo's arrows against the Raikage won't make a difference and that's common sense. It'd just be a waste of chakra for Sasuke.

That's your opinion and irrelevant to this discussion and beside the point.

Well who said he'll use the same tactics against Sasuke, that was a comparision between the real Sasuke vs the 4th Raikage and an SM Naruto clone vs the 3rd Raikage.

He could use the same tactics and use an SM Shadow clone to exert pressure on Sasuke but that entirely depends on the situation again.

Your comparison makes zero sense and I've already addressed this.

I don't care which susanoo he used, he used an attack which he was only able to do after gaining EMS, so the whole MS Sasuke could keep up with KCM is non sense.

Wrong. The Enton Orb is why he could create an Enton Blade/Arrow and that same orb is present on his V4 Susanoo.

Both mentally and physically he countered it. He had to take use kyubi chakra physically to block it. Its common sense, Raikage sure is faster than SM Naruto but SM Naruto has better threat perception and thus a faster reaction. He doesn't have to be as fast as the raikage to dodge the amaterasu. Its the same did against the 3rd Raikage and anyway even Hebi Sasuke was able to dodge it to an extent against Itachi.

Uh, no. It hit him and he used the Bijuu cloak to block it. That's not a physical reaction. He tossed it off AFTER getting hit thus that also isn't a reaction to him getting hit.

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And the "!!" above him disprove you completely. SM Naruto having sensing doesn't mean he reacts faster than the Raikage. That also makes zero sense. Sensing improves your reaction. It doesn't make it superior to those who already have insanely fast reflexes. So unless SM Naruto has speed feats on par w/ Ay he doesn't dodge Amaterasu. Hebi Sasuke failed to dodge it against a man who wasn't trying to kill him. Pointless to mention.

Kirin require huge scale weather manipulation and those tiny bleeps Sasuke used against Gaara isn't gonna do shit so no. Obviously it'll take a lot out of MS Sasuke.

The better the Susanoo,

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to use Kirin so I don't really want to see anyone try and claim that MS Sasuke doesn't have the stamina to pull it off without rendering himself useless. Amaterasu just makes it stronger.

As far as Kirn is concerned, the Susanoo was hit directly with it and I said the real SM Naruto could survive in the AoE as long as the attack doesn't hit his directly which he could manage by confusing Sasuke using his shadow clones and making him target a clone instead. While Kirin as an attack is instant, its preparation takes time and Naruto can always take countermeasures during that time.

Except you can't prove any of this so until then it's not valid in this argument. Yes, Naruto has time to beat Sasuke before he can use it, but he can't beat Sasuke at all let alone before Kirin is set up.

Lol, the dude jumped to his death countless times in the same manner despite having an arsenal of ranged attacks. He relied too much on his Izanagi.
Well Sasuke could mow down as many clones as he likes, there'll always be more. Sasuke can't keep up forever and if they enter close combat then frog kata negs his ass into pure world.

No, he didn't. :lol Lying about the Manga doesn't get you any points guy. He was overwhelmed and was forced to use Izanagi. That simple.

Not really. Sasuke's attacks are widespread enough to kill Naruto along with his clones or kill clones at a rate that Naruto can't continuously spam them. Then we have the fact that SM has a time limit and wasting chakra on clones uses up chakra thus shortening that limit. You'll probably say "Ma and Pa", but it takes time to summon them as shown by Jiraiya.

Naruto can't spam a clone army while in SM, he could make 2 or 3 at best and he could keep spamming them much after Sasuke is completely drained of juice trying to destroy them.

Lmao this is probably the stupidest thing I've read from you yet. Sasuke is equipped with techniques fast and widespread enough to wipe out a large number of foes yet you think 4 Narutos are going to be so hard to kill that he wastes his entire reserves dealing with them?

Yeah, not chance kiddo. Susanoo Arrow picks them off one by one, or Amaterasu picks them all off at once. Or Kirin one shots. Or Susanoo engages them in close combat and buttrapes them, and I could go own.

So whatever makes Sasuke look weaker is irrelevant..:lol:
Weakest version of MS Sasuke was about to be squashed by Ay, don't twist the facts.
Tactic plays a role in battle. Well I don't expect you to understand after all I've read from you.

Why would I care about a V1 Susanoo Sasuke when we are talking about a full power Sasuke? Are you really this daft? Ay was going to crash straight into Amaterasu and set himself on fire. That's a tie as Ay cannot put out those flames. That's a fact. Meanwhile there's actually a small chance Sasuke would survive the Guillotine Drop but I don't expect you delusional fanboys to be unbiased in a discussion involving your favorite character.

You throw around words like "tactics" yet the understanding of what "tactics" actually are and how they are employed based on situation are clearly out of your grasp. I can't take criticism from someone who thinks Naruto can survive Kirin, and that him spamming the same 2 or 3 clones will some how win him this fight.

Like I said, MS Sasuke destroys SM Naruto.

 

[Sakazuki]

We already knew this. SM Naruto have nothing that can breach Sasuke's Susano'o. Only sad thing is Kishimoto gave MS a nerf with the blindness and the hurting cells/backlash. While in SM it give no such nerf unless the user is hella fatigued and lose SM which get cast from the sage mode onto their base form.

But ms sasuke could never beat pain

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Oh u made sasuke struggled against a fodder lmao. Naruto doesn't need sm for danzo who did nothing but misuse his techs then fall for a weak ass genjutsu. If all danzo is gonna do is waste his sharigan and talking when he should kill someone anybody beats the fodder its sasuke who just had a hard time lmao

it's comical how u say sasuke fans are dumb yet you make posts like this lmao. danzo takes a fat dump on base nardo stop slurping.

 

[To Whatever]

They.Kill.Each.Other.

 

[Styles]

But ms sasuke could never beat pain

Sage mode Naruto couldn't either.

 

[Liquid Snake]

it's comical how u say sasuke fans are dumb yet you make posts like this lmao. danzo takes a fat dump on base nardo stop slurping.

U guys are dumb naruto beat kakuza in base someone who fought atleast a decent match with lord hashi. If u think danzo beats kakuza ur dumber than i thought lol. Yes naruto can beat danzo one on one his chakra reserves are higher he can make danzo close all his eyes then rasenshuriken him. Naruto has summons to battle danzos summon also . Danzo isnt that strong atleast he didn't show it in his fight with sasuke stop being butthurt

 

[Liquid Snake]

Sage mode Naruto couldn't either.

True not at that limit no. But he hadnt even finished training yet. But he won nonethless. Naruto needed kurama but thats small to the rinnegan he still won regardless how u see it sasuke needed his CM against diedra lmao

 

[Jiren]

U guys are dumb naruto beat kakuza in base someone who fought atleast a decent match with lord hashi. If u think danzo beats kakuza ur dumber than i thought lol. Yes naruto can beat danzo one on one his chakra reserves are higher he can make danzo close all his eyes then rasenshuriken him. Naruto has summons to battle danzos summon also . Danzo isnt that strong atleast he didn't show it in his fight with sasuke stop being butthurt

Naruto need help beating kakuzu he got saved mid fight by kakashi. You fanboy

 

[DHOH]

Naruto need help beating kakuzu he got saved mid fight by kakashi. You fanboy

And Yamato

 

[Detonator99]

Lmao this still going? SM naruto still wrecks.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Lmao this still going? SM naruto still wrecks.

You wish, Amaterasu GG.:bdpf:

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Lol poor nardo, some of his fans man...

 

[Detonator99]

You wish, Amaterasu GG.:bdpf:

Nice fanfic bra.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Nice fanfic bra.

Concession accepted.:Sparks:

 

[Detonator99]

Concession accepted.:Sparks:

Nice fanfic bra.