[Predictions] Naruto Manga 503 Discussion and 504 Predictions

What did you think of this week's Manga?

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Well still not giving up. Just think man, he hated Konoha overall so he tried to destroy it but when he couldn't he took revenge on the Uchiha and now he wants to continue his revenge by destroy the rest of Konoha. No one knows when did Madara established Akatsuki but for the tailed beasts thing one needs that Gedo Maze thing which was only controlled by Pain and in that time Pain was most probably of Kakashi's age and very young. So isn't it obvious Madara's plan failed and that's why he invented a brand new plan most probably when he met Pain. From what I understand you think that Madara cannot make mistakes dude just admit it.
quick sidenote remember when hanzo and danzo tricked nagato and his friends and then kiilled them causing nagato to rage and wipe everyone out...what if that was a plan backed by danzo and madara to turn nagato so they could easily manipulate him since he had the powerful rinnegan
 

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oh yeah did you guys notice the third showing up to where kushina and minato were...i predict a little conversation then they come up with the plan to put the other half in sasuke X-D
 

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if you guys remember the battle between ORO and the third, sarutobi did not let ORO to open the last casket which we all know that its the 4th, simply because of this flashback, the third knows what minato is capable of doing and i know all of you guys know it (well at least now). hehehe 4th is the strongest for me..
 

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Maybe that's what he does. Who knows, perhaps Madara has stored Minato's body in some location, and will use it again when resurrecting the Jubi. From what I remember, Konoha never found Minato's body after he died sealing the Nine-Tailed Fox into Naruto.

But that is an interesting thought. I have another theory as well; in order for tailed beasts to be sealed in the Demon Sealing Statue, it is best that they be extracted from their host.



Yes, there is an exception with the Three-Tailed Beast, but in this statue, the Nine-Tailed Fox must be sealed last, or the statue will crumble. Having said this, did Madara purposely let himself be defeated by Minato, so he would gain the oppurtunity to seal part of the Nine-Tails' chakra within himself, and the other in Naruto? Consider this - it would take a long time for Akatsuki to capture all the other beasts before the fox, and Madara would have to keep it under control until the sealing of the Nine-Tails comes. I'm sure that would be difficult if not impossible to do, so to ease his work Madara played himself off weaker than he really is so Minato would do exactly what he wanted.

If the Nine-Tails were not to be sealed that night (and destroyed Konoha, speaking hypothetically), then Madara would have to restrain the fox for many months, if not years, until they would finally be able to seal the Nine-Tailed Fox. Somehow that just doesn't seem likely. Minato said himself Madara would not be able to exert control of the Nine-Tailed Fox for very long, so perhaps Madara gave Minato the oppurtunity to seal the fox so he could come back for it years later. Madara himself said "someday, it will be mine again." Each time Madara discloses part of his plans, he always emerges with the intention of carrying out his words. This is a theory of mine, and it might be wrong - but if Minato did indeed defeat Madara, it would not explain why Minato had such a helpless expression in chapter 440? The word "everything" in "back then...he saw through everything I did," would not be the correct choice of words then, now would it?

Of course, I do not doubt the fact that Minato probably defeated Madara, but I just wanted to hear everyone's opinions on my theory. Thanks.
Hey you said about the Three-Tail beast but I thought Gaara's Tailed beast was the One Tailed?
 

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I'm willing to bet "that jutsu" is probably a reverse of the Death Reaper Seal...which revives people and the sacrifice will be the juubi...thats how peace will be brought to the ninja world because the tools of war - the tailed beasts will no longer exist
 

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oh yeah did you guys notice the third showing up to where kushina and minato were...i predict a little conversation then they come up with the plan to put the other half in sasuke X-D
Wow your dumb, if they planned to put half in Sasuke and half in Naruto, wtf is the point of the Dead Demon Summoning then? Minato just suddenly decided he's not taking half with him, and the summoning was on purpose just to kill himself afterwards, that's an amazing idea! If he wanted to do a 50/50 in both boys, then he could've just used a different sealing technique that wouldn't take his life afterwards.

Also, revise his plan. His plan is not to seal the fox in Naruto and take half of it with him. The plan was to take the fox with him period, but unfortunately, he can only take up to half the fox with him, and Kushina is about to die, no one is around them to take the other half besides Naruto, so he's gonna seal the other half in him only because he couldn't take it as well.
 

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Well still not giving up. Just think man, he hated Konoha overall so he tried to destroy it but when he couldn't he took revenge on the Uchiha and now he wants to continue his revenge by destroy the rest of Konoha. No one knows when did Madara established Akatsuki but for the tailed beasts thing one needs that Gedo Maze thing which was only controlled by Pain and in that time Pain was most probably of Kakashi's age and very young. So isn't it obvious Madara's plan failed and that's why he invented a brand new plan most probably when he met Pain. From what I understand you think that Madara cannot make mistakes dude just admit it.

Here are my answer to thesilenceofthelambs:
About Akatsuki, let's find out. Go get these facts, will you?
1. Aside from Pain, Konan, Itachi and maybe Zetsu and Orochimaru, the rest of Akatsuki regarded Pain as the founder and leader.
2. Tobi was not officially a member of Akatsuki before Sasori's dead.
3. Kisame not even aware of who Tobi really is before Tobi unmasked to him.
4. In the Kakhasi Gaiden, at the time of the war, Minato was already a jounin and a teacher to Kakhasi, Obito and Rin.
5. In my estimation, Jiraiya supposed to teach Nagato, Konan and Yahiko at around the same time with Kakhasi Gaiden, meaning Nagato is younger than Minato.
6. When Jiraiya taught Nagato and company, he wrote the book (the tales of the gutsy ninja) whose hero was called Naruto.
7. Minato read the book when Jiraiya came back, at that time Kushina got pregnant.
8. When Jiraiya left Nagato, he has not mastered the rinnegan, and it's years after that when Yahiko died and Nagato killed Hanzo.

Obviously the point number 8 happened years after the 9 tails attack, so the Akatsuki was formed after that.
 

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Maybe that's what he does. Who knows, perhaps Madara has stored Minato's body in some location, and will use it again when resurrecting the Jubi. From what I remember, Konoha never found Minato's body after he died sealing the Nine-Tailed Fox into Naruto.

But that is an interesting thought. I have another theory as well; in order for tailed beasts to be sealed in the Demon Sealing Statue, it is best that they be extracted from their host.

Naruto 260 page 19 | One Manga

Yes, there is an exception with the Three-Tailed Beast, but in this statue, the Nine-Tailed Fox must be sealed last, or the statue will crumble. Having said this, did Madara purposely let himself be defeated by Minato, so he would gain the oppurtunity to seal part of the Nine-Tails' chakra within himself, and the other in Naruto? Consider this - it would take a long time for Akatsuki to capture all the other beasts before the fox, and Madara would have to keep it under control until the sealing of the Nine-Tails comes. I'm sure that would be difficult if not impossible to do, so to ease his work Madara played himself off weaker than he really is so Minato would do exactly what he wanted.

If the Nine-Tails were not to be sealed that night (and destroyed Konoha, speaking hypothetically), then Madara would have to restrain the fox for many months, if not years, until they would finally be able to seal the Nine-Tailed Fox. Somehow that just doesn't seem likely. Minato said himself Madara would not be able to exert control of the Nine-Tailed Fox for very long, so perhaps Madara gave Minato the oppurtunity to seal the fox so he could come back for it years later. Madara himself said "someday, it will be mine again." Each time Madara discloses part of his plans, he always emerges with the intention of carrying out his words. This is a theory of mine, and it might be wrong - but if Minato did indeed defeat Madara, it would not explain why Minato had such a helpless expression in chapter 440? The word "everything" in "back then...he saw through everything I did," would not be the correct choice of words then, now would it?

Of course, I do not doubt the fact that Minato probably defeated Madara, but I just wanted to hear everyone's opinions on my theory. Thanks.
But also at the time, Madara did not have the statue to seal the beasts. Nagato is still a child at this time, and is with Jiraiya training. Madara probably didn't even come up with the moon's eye plan yet, which is a most likely, because he hasn't even read from the Sage's plates, so he has no idea of the existence of the Jyubi. He's after the Jyubi though at the moment though because it's the most powerful tailed beast and he wants to be it's host. It could be possible, since at the time, the 9-tails is the most powerful, so he wanted it's power or to settle off with destroying Konoha and being at peace or becoming the host of the 9-tails.

Next time you make a prediction, how about it doesn't involve you or trying to make others suck Madara's/Tobi's ****? All you've been doing is try to make Madara/Tobi to be the sup badass who thought years in advance. Unfortunate for you, that was Minato who thought years in advance, not Madara...

Also, how could Madara purposefully lost? He had no idea on the basis of the FTGT. He did not know yet that the user teleports to the seals, he only realised after Minato teleported to the Kunai and that the Kunai had a seal on it, which gave him the conclusion the seal was on him now. If the seal was on you, you'd pretty much know, "well I'm screwed, there's a seal on me that allows my enemy to teleport right next to me, and I have no idea where the seal on me is, best to just try my luck next time".
 
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Obviously the point number 8 happened years after the 9 tails attack, so the Akatsuki was formed after that.
Besides, have a look at Madara's robe. It is not Akatsuki robe which he normally wears all the time, just an ordinary black robe.
Its unlikely he was concealing it since Akatsuki wasn't known (wasn't even formed) let alone the cloudy robe they wear. Besides, he is showing off his sharingan, he wouldn't care about to robe (never have).
 

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♆ Rei ♆;2070726 said:
No way. All seniors of Konoha definitely knew that their 4th Hokage was married and had a child just before he died O_O
yeah they knew. but they didn't knew that that child was naruto. they only knew that naruto was the host, but not that he was the son of the 4th. and that was, what Hyuuga Essa was saying.

kushina died during the fox's attack and nobody knew that she was giving birth at that night. so obviously the villagers had to believe that her child died with her.
 

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Awesome chapter. The 4th is the best shinobi ever!!!

One thing I have to say reading back at some of you guys discussions. It does not matter that naruto has only have of the 9tails chackra. He still has the foxs full power. Look back at the arc with soora and the fire temple. Soora had the fox chackra aswell and his ammount did not compare to narutos but he was still able to use tje power of the fox just as naruto could back wjen he didn't know how to control it. If a host loses total control of the demon/tail beast chackra the host wll turn into the beast and will not be able to change back. So if soora was to have gone full 9 tails the real 9 tails would have emerge

So naruto having the yang part of the fox chackra just means that minato gave him that half hoping it would be easier to deal with than the ying no other reason.

So if naruto was to get captured he would complete the statue and madara would be able to go on with his plans. Just the same as say if soora is to get captured he would be good enough to complete the statue in my opinion. Soooo let me have what you guys hav to say about this...
 

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Think of the situation from the villagers point of view. Nine tails gets loose, 4th hokage and his pregnant wife dies on that day. Next day a child appears, bearing the mark of whirlpool village and introduced as 9tails next Jinchuriki. 3rd Hokage takes seat again and forbids speaking about 9 tails.
Now, some might be suspicious Naruto might be the child, but they also might be thinking it was the new Jinchuriki brought from whirlpool village. Some might find it suspicious that a child appears and introduced as Jinchuriki right after the incident. In any case they can't be sure unless 3rd had announced it, but we don't know that.
 

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Awesome chapter. The 4th is the best shinobi ever!!!

One thing I have to say reading back at some of you guys discussions. It does not matter that naruto has only have of the 9tails chackra. He still has the foxs full power. Look back at the arc with soora and the fire temple. Soora had the fox chackra aswell and his ammount did not compare to narutos but he was still able to use tje power of the fox just as naruto could back wjen he didn't know how to control it. If a host loses total control of the demon/tail beast chackra the host wll turn into the beast and will not be able to change back. So if soora was to have gone full 9 tails the real 9 tails would have emerge

So naruto having the yang part of the fox chackra just means that minato gave him that half hoping it would be easier to deal with than the ying no other reason.

So if naruto was to get captured he would complete the statue and madara would be able to go on with his plans. Just the same as say if soora is to get captured he would be good enough to complete the statue in my opinion. Soooo let me have what you guys hav to say about this...
...that was an anime filler with sora
 

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Before I say my opinion it just a reminder it only a opinion of mine...
In the lastest chapter, when Tobi hand is hanging off by waxy goo I guess, It gave me an idea that he must be apart of Zetsu but wears his mask because like zetsu, he has two personalities because when Tobi says 'he just a former shell of himself', maybe he don't just mean that in power but on who he is as a person aswell, maybe he does have a 2nd personality like when you see Tobi being a complete retard xd

But I don't think it exactly like Zetsu split personality where they are both active...

Maybe... when Madara was defeated by the 1st Hokage, Zetsu somehow found him in his dying state and saved him or something similar to that and for him to save Madara he had to share his power with Madara like with the unusual healing of missing limbs etc but has a result Madara's personality is split in two? So he became Tobi Just a random theory, Probably didn't explain it well due to sleepiness but thought I'd give my opinion before I forget it :D
I like this one, his other half is obito :D
 

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But also at the time, Madara did not have the statue to seal the beasts. Nagato is still a child at this time, and is with Jiraiya training. Madara probably didn't even come up with the moon's eye plan yet, which is a most likely, because he hasn't even read from the Sage's plates, so he has no idea of the existence of the Jyubi. He's after the Jyubi though at the moment though because it's the most powerful tailed beast and he wants to be it's host. It could be possible, since at the time, the 9-tails is the most powerful, so he wanted it's power or to settle off with destroying Konoha and being at peace or becoming the host of the 9-tails.

Next time you make a prediction, how about it doesn't involve you or trying to make others suck Madara's/Tobi's ****? All you've been doing is try to make Madara/Tobi to be the sup badass who thought years in advance. Unfortunate for you, that was Minato who thought years in advance, not Madara...

Also, how could Madara purposefully lost? He had no idea on the basis of the FTGT. He did not know yet that the user teleports to the seals, he only realised after Minato teleported to the Kunai and that the Kunai had a seal on it, which gave him the conclusion the seal was on him now. If the seal was on you, you'd pretty much know, "well I'm screwed, there's a seal on me that allows my enemy to teleport right next to me, and I have no idea where the seal on me is, best to just try my luck next time".
You said it man he thinks that Madara had thought years in advance and has never failed in his plans. Madara just got his a$$ kickedxd
 

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...that was an anime filler with sora
Yeah i know but am saying if soora managed to go 4 tails with just the little ammount of kiubi chackra that he was given and say if soora wouldve transformed full kyubi as it was intended by his father kasuma if am correct he would have turned into the real kyubi as the kasuma guy said. So what am tryin to say is that it dont matter that naruto has half the kyubis chackra he still has the full power of the kyubi
 

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Awesome chapter. The 4th is the best shinobi ever!!!

One thing I have to say reading back at some of you guys discussions. It does not matter that naruto has only have of the 9tails chackra. He still has the foxs full power. Look back at the arc with soora and the fire temple. Soora had the fox chackra aswell and his ammount did not compare to narutos but he was still able to use tje power of the fox just as naruto could back wjen he didn't know how to control it. If a host loses total control of the demon/tail beast chackra the host wll turn into the beast and will not be able to change back. So if soora was to have gone full 9 tails the real 9 tails would have emerge

So naruto having the yang part of the fox chackra just means that minato gave him that half hoping it would be easier to deal with than the ying no other reason.

So if naruto was to get captured he would complete the statue and madara would be able to go on with his plans. Just the same as say if soora is to get captured he would be good enough to complete the statue in my opinion. Soooo let me have what you guys hav to say about this...
No, then madara wouldn't be looking for the eight tail demon right now. He got the tentacle of the 8 tail demon that had chakra of the eight tail demon.
 
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