[Discussion] Ace did not lose against Akainu and btw ace>>luffy still
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by feats and logic yes lets look it like thiswe do not know ace's full power
we do not know luffy's full power
yet you are saying ace>> luffy
them deductive skilles
Blackbeard could tank hits from whitebeard and we also know that blackbeard vs ace fight took longer than the luffy vs blackbeard
and i forgot to metion that blackbeard gave shanks some ugly scars
No Aokiji and Akainu are both waaay above Ace they are entirely on a different lvl U_U....if Healthy Ace had an all out battle with either one of them I doubt he would last 30 minutes much less 10 days.
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Ace isn't admiral level. He drew with jimbe. Akainu would have won low diff. He was able to tank a haki kick from marco, who is stronger than ace
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I dont care
Akainu>Your fantasy Ace
Also Enel negs Ace...Lighting is hotter than the sun[aces fire]
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people are underestimating ace because he and sabo are pretty much comparison aldo that sabo is stronger than ace now
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I'd say post time skip sabo would have been stronger than post time skip ace. Sabo's haki is pretty strong
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The most stupid comment of the day. "If Ace was healthy his fight with Akainu would've been as long as the fight between Akainu and Aokiji" hmmm, what, overrating much. Akainu would atleast mid diff Ace, Ace wasn't in their league.
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also Ace>Zoro
While I do think Ace is heavily underrated it's fair to say he was beat in the fight against Akainu. A healthy Ace may have been able to do better but not by much but there's no shame to that I mean Akainu fought all of the Whitebeard commanders.
Ace in my opinion was about equal to current Doflamingo in strength I still don't think Luffy has surpassed him as I believe Oda will have something special planned out for the moment he does surpass Ace however having said that the fact Ace didn't have CoA or CoO (That we know of) him being as strong as he was is quite impressive however his devil fruit and his mastery of it contributed a lot to that.
Ace in my opinion was about equal to current Doflamingo in strength I still don't think Luffy has surpassed him as I believe Oda will have something special planned out for the moment he does surpass Ace however having said that the fact Ace didn't have CoA or CoO (That we know of) him being as strong as he was is quite impressive however his devil fruit and his mastery of it contributed a lot to that.
He did lose the exchange, but Ace was seriously handicaped beforehand. Not only who got bloodied by Teach during their fight, he got tortured in impel down prison, got handcuffed(sealing his DF powers) all the way til marineford and the execution place. He was probably in less than 10% of his max capacities. I think Ace was still slightly stronger than current Luffy
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Caesar Clown and Monet say shut up.
Ace didn't have Armament per his portrayal so far.
Ace did lose to Akainu, his powers are completely ineffective against Akainu, how would he put up a good fight? Akainu roflcurbstomps Ace 10/10 times.
Ace had such a high bounty because he:
1. Kept getting into fights
2. Was the son of Roger
3. Was a commander on the most dangerous pirate's crew
Haki could have, and most likely didn't, have anything to do with Ace's bounty. Ace has had ample opportunities to use Armament, Observation, and his Conqueror's, but never did, showing he wasn't a master of Haki.
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