[Discussion] Ace did not lose against Akainu and btw ace>>luffy still

[I m an Ass]

I mean awaking the kings haki at the age of 10 being the son of Gol.D Roger he was also regarded as the strongest from his generation and most feared one by songoku.People who think he lost against Akainu are idiots because he
obviously wanted to protect luffy,if he didn't luffy would be the one dead.
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People forget that ace lost to Blackbeard before he was sent to impel-down probably spend days without eating
and not caring for his wounds,talking about fair fight Akainu sneak attacked him i really don't like him. In a fair
fight i know that akainu would still win but it wouldn't be that easy because we know that ace was at least admiral level too.
If he was alive he would be the one to become the pirate king and not luffy and not luffy.

 

[-immortal-]

He did lose. Otherwise he would still live

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

he got oneshotted. and he doesn't know haki so he cant be better than luffy.

 

[Zorø]

I get what your saying but he was obviously no match...even if they had an all out out battle while hes healthy and refreshed I think the outcome would be the same a magma fist through the chest U_U.

 

[demon of the leaf]

Akainu is a dirty fighter and a win is a win in the end ace is dead

 

[I m an Ass]

He did lose. Otherwise he would still live

that was not a defeat he was protecting his bro

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

that was not a defeat he was protecting his bro

he chose to do that in the middle of a fight therefore he lost. not only that but ace has no haki training he couldn't beat akainu if he wanted. if he did have haki he could've blocked the punch.

 

[-immortal-]

that was not a defeat he was protecting his bro

10/10 would watch again

 

[I m an Ass]

I get what your saying but he was obviously no match...even if they had an all out out battle while hes healthy and refreshed I think the outcome would be the same a magma fist through the chest U_U.

i agree but the fight would be way longer like the akainu vs aokoji

 

[I m an Ass]

he chose to do that in the middle of a fight therefore he lost. not only that but ace has no haki training he couldn't beat akainu if he wanted. if he did have haki he could've blocked the punch.

if he didn't have haki he wouldn't last 1 second in the new world he was really respected there and was the second in command in the whitebeard pirates

 

[Jimmy page]

He lost. End of discussion.

 

[Olorin]

there is no doubt that he did lose in that exchange

but if it was a healthy Akainu vs a healthy Ace, 1v1, the fight would have been longer, though Ace would have lost

and Ace would do better against Kizaru and Aokiji because the magma fruit is the worst possible matchup for the Mera Mera (bar water) but, again, he would lose

Ace is being underrated imho, more and more but if he fought an Admiral he would lose and against Akainu he did lose in a way, he wasn't old enough yet, but imo he in his prime would be about equal to prime Roger, prime Garp, prime Dragon or Prime Luffy (individually ofc)

and imo Ace was stronger than Doflamingo so if Luffy can't beat Dofy on his own tha I say Ace is still stronger

also saying that the 2nd division commander of the WB pirates didn't have Haki imo is ridiculous

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

if he didn't have haki he wouldn't last 1 second in the new world he was really respected there and was the second in command in the whitebeard pirates

but he didn't have haki even still. no armament or observation haki from what we saw and doesn't even know how to use his kings haki... he cant beat akainu at all.

 

[I m an Ass]

He lost. End of discussion.

he lost from a sneak attack if akainu could really defeat him with ease why did use dirty tricks to win ?

 

[Gintõki1]

He still would lose but not that fast.

The reason was, like many people forget, Luffy!
He jumped infront of him, knowing to get hit to protect Luffy. People take this as oneshotted or other bs.

 

[Indora]

we do not know ace's full power
we do not know luffy's full power

yet you are saying ace>> luffy
them deductive skilles

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

there is no doubt that he did lose in that exchange

but if it was a healthy Akainu vs a healthy Ace, 1v1, the fight would have been longer, though Ace would have lost

and Ace would do better against Kizaru and Aokiji because the magma fruit is the worst possible matchup for the Mera Mera (bar water) but, again, he would lose

Ace is being underrated imho, more and more but if he fought an Admiral he would lose and against Akainu he did lose in a way, he wasn't old enough yet, but imo he in his prime would be about equal to prime Roger, prime Garp, prime Dragon or Prime Luffy (individually ofc)

and imo Ace was stronger than Doflamingo so if Luffy can't beat Dofy on his own tha I say Ace is still stronger

Healthy Ace? Give him 50 years to train and Akainu would still take him to the rape shed

 

[I m an Ass]

but he didn't have haki even still. no armament or observation haki from what we saw and doesn't even know how to use his kings haki... he cant beat akainu at all.

so you think that someone whit the the bounty of 550 000 000 (and yes i know it doesn't mean strength) has no haki .
even when he saw luffy doing it he said you too come on don't be stupid

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

we do not know ace's full power
we do not know luffy's full power

yet you are saying ace>> luffy
them deductive skilles

Yes we do...Teach shat on him

 

[Indora]

Yes we do...Teach shat on him

Okay, but we do not know Luffy's