[Discussion] Ace did not lose against Akainu and btw ace>>luffy still

[Darkboy85]

Wether he had lost or won, the point is...he's dead. It was very sad btw.

 

[My Username]

Ace is fodder on par with part 1 Smoker

Akainu no lube raped Ace and wtf? Luffy destroys Ace

 

[I m an Ass]

we do not know ace's full power
we do not know luffy's full power

yet you are saying ace>> luffy
them deductive skilles

by feats and logic yes lets look it like this

Blackbeard could tank hits from whitebeard and we also know that blackbeard vs ace fight took longer than the luffy vs blackbeard
and i forgot to metion that blackbeard gave shanks some ugly scars

 

[Zorø]

Ace is fodder on par with part 1 Smoker

Akainu no lube raped Ace and wtf? Luffy destroys Ace

You are not serious :|.....just leave the thread now U_U.

 

[Olorin]

Healthy Ace? Give him 50 years to train and Akainu would still take him to the rape shed

yes the same way Akainu>Roger and how Luffy will never be stronger than Akainu, even if he trains for 50 years

 

[Zorø]

i agree but the fight would be way longer like the akainu vs aokoji

No Aokiji and Akainu are both waaay above Ace they are entirely on a different lvl U_U....if Healthy Ace had an all out battle with either one of them I doubt he would last 30 minutes much less 10 days.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Ace isn't admiral level. He drew with jimbe. Akainu would have won low diff. He was able to tank a haki kick from marco, who is stronger than ace

 

[Sweet Pudding]

But Ace lost

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

yes the same way Akainu>Roger and how Luffy will never be stronger than Akainu, even if he trains for 50 years

I dont care
Akainu>Your fantasy Ace

Also Enel negs Ace...Lighting is hotter than the sun[aces fire]

 

[I m an Ass]

Ace isn't admiral level. He drew with jimbe. Akainu would have won low diff. He was able to tank a haki kick from marco, who is stronger than ace

people are underestimating ace because he and sabo are pretty much comparison aldo that sabo is stronger than ace now

 

[Lord Tywin]

people are underestimating ace because he and sabo are pretty much comparison aldo that sabo is stronger than ace now

I'd say post time skip sabo would have been stronger than post time skip ace. Sabo's haki is pretty strong

 

[YellowFang]

He'd have lost in any case... Akainu was just bad match-up...

 

[Olorin]

I dont care
Akainu>Your fantasy Ace

if only I had said that ... oh waaaaaaaaait I DID say that lol, learn to read

also Ace>Zoro

 

[kmrasengan]

The most stupid comment of the day. "If Ace was healthy his fight with Akainu would've been as long as the fight between Akainu and Aokiji" hmmm, what, overrating much. Akainu would atleast mid diff Ace, Ace wasn't in their league.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

if only I had said that ... oh waaaaaaaaait I DID say that lol, learn to read

also Ace>Zoro

I do enjoy reading fanfiction from time to time

 

[Olorin]

I do enjoy reading fanfiction from time to time

fanfiction ... based on the manga

Ace>Zoro

 

[TheHokage]

While I do think Ace is heavily underrated it's fair to say he was beat in the fight against Akainu. A healthy Ace may have been able to do better but not by much but there's no shame to that I mean Akainu fought all of the Whitebeard commanders.

Ace in my opinion was about equal to current Doflamingo in strength I still don't think Luffy has surpassed him as I believe Oda will have something special planned out for the moment he does surpass Ace however having said that the fact Ace didn't have CoA or CoO (That we know of) him being as strong as he was is quite impressive however his devil fruit and his mastery of it contributed a lot to that.

 

[Fireplay]

Agreed, Akainu threw sand in Ace's eyes before the fight started. Cheater!

 

[Bogard]

He did lose the exchange, but Ace was seriously handicaped beforehand. Not only who got bloodied by Teach during their fight, he got tortured in impel down prison, got handcuffed(sealing his DF powers) all the way til marineford and the execution place. He was probably in less than 10% of his max capacities. I think Ace was still slightly stronger than current Luffy

 

[Punk Hazard]

if he didn't have haki he wouldn't last 1 second in the new world he was really respected there and was the second in command in the whitebeard pirates

Caesar Clown and Monet say shut up.

Ace didn't have Armament per his portrayal so far.

Ace did lose to Akainu, his powers are completely ineffective against Akainu, how would he put up a good fight? Akainu roflcurbstomps Ace 10/10 times.

so you think that someone whit the the bounty of 550 000 000 (and yes i know it doesn't mean strength) has no haki .
even when he saw luffy doing it he said you too come on don't be stupid

Ace had such a high bounty because he:

1. Kept getting into fights
2. Was the son of Roger
3. Was a commander on the most dangerous pirate's crew

Haki could have, and most likely didn't, have anything to do with Ace's bounty. Ace has had ample opportunities to use Armament, Observation, and his Conqueror's, but never did, showing he wasn't a master of Haki.