Then it was pointless for you to even mention their power levels at the beginning of Part 2 seeing it's irrelevant.
Yes, because...I'm the one...idiotically hating...on a character...right...
Establishing why Sasuke's characterization and devlopment is greater than Naruto's
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Timeskip is part of growth. Growth leads to development. You are just trying to excuse this because you know it wouldn't work for you.
Yes, the same idiot who gave me a neg because you are biased of my thread. Pretty damn sure (no I am certain) that if the title was reversed then you would have no problem, but too bad for you there are no feats to even disprove my thread.
Keep wasting my time.
TrollingSage
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Yea so Naruto is boring because he didnt talk about committing mass genocide by destroying the village? Before Itachi died all Sasuke could talk about was avenging him. Sasuke's character is more a result of Itachi's influence. Itachi directly affected every single important life decision Sasuke has ever made.That's every reason why his character is boring and predicable, all he talks about is becoming hokage and saving his friends he doesn't have any other goals or morals, he didn't change or develop as a character since the beginning
Right, because during the valley battle, Sasuke actually killed Naruto.
Right, because immediately after Sasuke learned the truth about his brother, he decided to protect it as his brother wished for.
Right, because even after Itachi's death, Sasuke is actually following everything that Itachi wants
Right, because we actually know Sasuke's true motives right now.
It must suck to be stupid.
Growth in terms of maturing attitude-wise, not growth in terms of power. If you wanted to make this about power you should have titled the thread "Sasuke was stronger than Naruto at the beginning of Shippuden". I'm not trying to excuse anything, just a large portion of your post was off-topic and had nothing to do with Naruto or Sasuke as charcters. You may want to edit that out.
I already said that I agree Sasuke has greater characterization than Naruto. You keep trying to label me a "naruto fanboy" when I actially agreed with you, so I don't know what point you're trying to make.
Yes, I'm sure you're a very busy man.
WalksInShadows
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Naruto isn't as realistic a character as Sasuke, but going the whole story wanting to destroy something/someone and suddenly wanting to become Hokage isn't realistic either. The only thing that got developed with the Sasuke character were incidents that occurred prior to the series' start. From the chapter he debuted in all the way to 627, his story has been about revenge. And after that, he suddenly thinks he will become Hokage and be the one to end the system. That's not development. At least with Naruto, he gradually went from becoming the neighborhood menace to the most beloved person in the world.
- the part where he said he's destroy anyone who would mock his way of living
- when he ran into Edo Itachi
- before or after Hashirama told his story
i could be wrong, but i counted at least a few occasions where he said some stuff that gave me the impression he wanted someone to feel sorry for him:
- the part where he said he's destroy anyone who would mock his way of living
- when he ran into Edo Itachi
- before or after Hashirama told his story
there is a such thing as consistency in character development. This is just you saying unless a certain character was like Sasuke, they had no development.
this is pretty much the conclusion i have come to.
TrollingSage
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LOL . An idiot calling someone else an idiot. You couldn't even understand my post you insufferable twit. Sasuke's character has always been about getting revenge. It was revenge against Itachi before he died. After he died, he sought revenge against the leaf fpr Itachi. His new motives are a direct result of him meeting Itachi. Which part of my post was so hard to understand you retarded buffoon.
Look at this guy, throwing insignificant baby insults because he doesn't understand Sasuke's character. Like I said, it must suck to be stupid.
Just because Itachi had a big impact on Sasuke's life (like I have already stated in the op) It doesn't mean that Sasuke followed or listened to everything he said. In fact, he didn't.
Sasuke was also a big impact on Naruto's life and was the one who made him stronger, but of course your fanboyish idiotic accusations would declare otherwise right?
I'll tell you what... if you can actually type something worth reading then I will actually bother to take you seriously, but until further notice, you can get lost you half assed pleb.
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TrollingSage
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You started the insults moron. My comment was a reply to someone else's comment.I didnt ask you to read and understand it, nor did I expect you to,with being a lower life form with limited intelligence. Now run along and play with your little Sasuke dolls
Macho Uchicha
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This explanation wasn't needed. Anyone who disagrees with you is either a fanboy or is just delusional...sasuke is leagues above naruto in every aspect
Consistency is associated with plot progression. A character can develop erratically and suddenly if need be.
Some of us are just more educated. Can't say the same about a cheap bystander like yourself. Just look at your explanation. Kinda shameful that it takes such effort to even put your point across properly.
That's true, because that is the only thing you CAN accomplish, shitting.
WalksInShadows
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i've seen characters in other fictional works who got developed as a character w/o their personality/agenda ping ponging all over the place to the point where it makes little sense, if any. A character doesn't have to possess an unpredictable personality to have development. Naruto's character went from one thing to another. Sasuke is still the same person he was in the beginning.
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Take a short story as an example - forgotten the name: a woman is shown crying that her husband died. Suddenly, she shouts, I am free. Sing happily and makes her way down, only to find her husband standing on the doorway. Apparently, there had been a mix-up in regards to deaths. He has a heart attack, and she dies.
This is sudden, erratic development. What you are saying has nothing to do with whether a character is well-written or not.
WalksInShadows
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what i said does have something to do with a charcter being well-written. As i have said before, i have seen plenty enough characters in fictional works who had a fairly predictable personality throughout the course of the story that was developed all the same. You just don't want to admit it as being true because it would mean having to dismiss any and all claims made by hardcore Sasuke fans who double as Naruto haters that Sasuke is the only one with character development out of the 2.
The fact is, that despite all of the fights Sasuke had, the powerups he got, and the ppl he met, Sasuke is still the same person he was in the very beginning. Regardless of what someone thinks of Naruto's ideology, he evolved as a character. Sasuke spending every last chapter of this story needing to swear swift and deadly vengeance on somebody doesn't tell me he grew as a character at all.
Unlike majority of naruto fanboys, sasuke fans don't care about power they like him because of his character, which is far better than naruto's
Also you're acting like naruto has beaten sasuke in the final fight already Lol. I love how overconfident naruto fanboys are.
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