On this point, once again he wasn't there for trouble. He wanted Danzo to hear of his presence so he would remember their deal. He wanted to be seen, because he knew that his presence would be reported, but he had no intentions for combat. He even warned Kurenai and Asuma twice and told them that he didn't want to fight. They started the fight and tried to attack first. Then Kakashi showed up and Itachi warned him as well. Kakashi ignored that and tried to attack Itachi. Who's fault is it really here? The Konoha jonins. Itachi even told Kisame that they should leave before it could escalate any further, Kisame and Itachi would have slaughtered them if he hadn't.
1- Even if he wasn't their to start a fight, but it did happen, and he simply damaged some of the best shinobi in konoha when they were extremely weak after their war against the Sand and Oro, no?
2- Sorry, but itachi wanted to kill Kurnai with his Kunai, but she broke the genjutsu. He also wanted to take kakashi when he ordered Kisame to do so, but then Guy appeared and stopped Kisame.
That can't be the jonins's fault because they are not supposed to know what is he thinking about. He allowed an S rank criminal like Kisame to enter the village!!
[=Chie;14776731]1. lol, I'm sorry I didn't notice. The hate is immature on both sides though.
2. Very well then. Just like Minato is a Tobirama v2, then Itachi is a Sasuke v2.
Lol, okay. XD
3. He was trying to sell of the whole "I'm a bad guy facade". Sasuke didn't even know who Naruto was at that point, nor did he have a best friend, which is why there wasn't really any harm in saying that at the time. Also, people do the opposite of the people they hate. The only reason Sasuke didn't kill Naruto back at the Valley of the End was because he remembered Itachi's words, and he despises Itachi. Reverse-psychology won here.
which was a bad Idea that he even admitted that he failed, and had he not done that, sasuke could have changed his mother and father's minds. Itachi IS the one who told sasuke to hate more and do all that stuff, and that's what resulted in every bad thing Sasuke did. In fact itachi admitted that he made Sasuke a criminal when he met him as an ET.
4. Hiruzen sent him to be a double-agent for Akatsuki. What would they have done if he said no? It would have blown his cover and they would have sent another Akatsuki to go and stop them. Naruto's group was actually lucky that Itachi was sent to them, considering that he didn't want to hurt them at all and only evaded their attacks. If that had been any other Akatsuki member, they would have been done for.
That's cool and all, but itachi is also supposedly a spy for Konoha, why did not he told them at that time about anything he knows about the Akatsuki? Wouldn't that have saved konoha a lot of terrible?
5. He was 13, negotiations failed, Fugaku was stubborn and misguided, Hiruzen was too lenient, and Danzo was a jerk. He even gave a speech which was shown in pt1 that essentially told that he wasn't for the coup, but his father didn't care and gave up on him. He had no choice and the situation was hopeless. He saved more lives and the Uchiha were done either way. Madara who was well into his 30s failed to save his brother and his clan, how is a 13 year old going to save a clan that is even more hate-filled than Madara's due to the years of tension that have gone by between Konoha and the Uchiha?
As I said, itachi is the one who did not trust Sasuke's abilities, and you can see that in his talk with Sasuke after Kabuto's defeat. Not to mention as HE admitted as well to both Naruto & Sasuke, that he was arrogant and thought that he can do everything by himself, and that's was his own failure by his own mouth.
6. That's a terrible reason. Kisame was about to rip Deidara apart and force him to join anyway, Deidara didn't even have an option. Itachi just stopped a fight from ensuing.
it does not matter, he is the one who did it at the end of the day. You can't do something bad because of a reason like "If i did not do it, someone else will" Should I go and steal other people's stuff because if I did not steal them, someone else will do it? Also, if Kisame and Deidara fought, that will actually will be better because there will be a possibility that either one will die, or both, or at least they will injure each other. U_U
7. He didn't even know who Madara was. How is that a failure? That's like saying Minato is a fail because he could have saved both himself and Kushina and Naruto would have been a better ninja due to having a family and better training, but Minato didn't know that Kushina would live if he resealed Kurama into her. Neither failed.
Because he is supposedly going to stop the ET, but when he defeated Kabuto with his brother, it was already too late
because the ET were already defeated or sealed except madara, Kimmimaro, and Chiyo. The only threat was madara, who freed himself because of what itachi did as I said. U_U
As for the part you said is actually a retcon from kishi's part because it was actually stated that even resealing the Bijuu wont make the host live, but rather both will die, and that was stated by Kushina herself, but kishi changed that later, so it would fit in Naruto's case.
Itachi wasn't even there to kidnap Naruto, the manga confirmed that. He was there to make sure that Danzo would hear of his presence and that Sasuke would be safe from him. It worked. Itachi continuously made excuses throughout that trip, Itachi could have turned around and amaterasu'd Jiraiya instead of the wall, he is no match for Itachi. Itachi was assigned to capture Naruto and he knew how to get into Konoha anytime he wanted. If he wanted Naruto, he would have taken him. But he didn't and therefore Naruto was spared from Akatsuki's wrath while he was alive. He also saved both Naruto and Bee from Edo Nagato.
I actually was talking about the hotel. Itachi used his genjutsu on a random woman to take Jman away from Naruto, no?
- lol, no. Jiraiya is stronger than itachi as itachi admitted himself. Also, it's easy said than done.
They were safe when he protected them from a world war and when he made sure their jinchurikki wasn't captured. He cannot save them from everything, Hiruzen didn't want to kill Oro when he had several chances to do so and as a result Konoha suffered, not really Itachi's fault. Kakazu and hidan? If Itachi stopped him he would blow his cover and all the Akatsuki would gang up on him. He's be done for.
again, Jiraiya was the one who's protecting Naruto, not itachi. As for oro's part, it seems you forgot that itachi also
had chances to do so when he fought Oro, and he did not.
- Why would the Akatsuki gang up on him? Kakuzu killed a lot of the Akatsuki's members as he said, did anyone
attack him? No.
Itachi had better intelligence feats when he planned out his entire life as a 13 year old whereas Minato just sealed a demon into his son and called it a day.
lol, his entire like?
What itachi did is make Sasuke a criminal, and he hoped that he will return after all his crimes to konoha without a problems. lol
he put an Amatersu inside of Sasuke's eyes, and that's about it, and he failed to save Sasuke from obito.
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Minato sealed Kurama inside Naruto, and he put his and Kushina's chakra inside of him to protect him. He succeeded in both times.
that's beside other stuff, but I got tired already. ~.~
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