Minato or Itachi ?

[enditallsin]

However, now that I think about it... (I'm a fan of both Minato and Itachi, so don't accuse me of being one of those Itachi fans from your sig)
Minato wouldn't be able to take down an entire clan without help either, it's not as if he can spread his kunai around every area of the Uchiha compound and have them not notice and finish off everyone at night. It's not an open field like the wars he has been in. Itachi pulled up his susanno so fast that he managed to save himself before kirin could strike...that's as close as it's gonna get and Yata Mirror would have a good chance of deflecting it. Obviously he and everyone else in Akatsuki has some way of dealing with them considering that Kisame asked Itachi if he wanted to be the one to take down Roshi, who carried the 4-tails, however, Itachi refused. The best Minato could do in that fight was stalemate w/ an inexperienced w/ Hachibi Killer Bee and the sad thing was that he at first didn't notice that Bee was holding a kunai ready to kill him at the same moment as well. The best he could do with Obito was damage his zetsu arm and then Kushina was the one who restrained Kurama w/ her chakra chains, not Minato. By the way, you're comparing a 13 year old Itachi to a 26 year old Minato. Good job.

First of all I don't care how old obito was he was still trained by madara uchiha,and was strong enough to pull off a feat that only madara was able to do in the past not to mention he had all madara's knowledge past on to him, that combined with obitos already op bloodline limit made his one of the ninja worlds most deadliest ninja,age didn't mean shit,age was not even a factor,and btw itachi did not react to kirin fast at all sasuke even took a moment to try and intimidate itachi with the technique before he struck itachi so no itachi had time to get ready to activate susanoo,itachi was smart enough to know obito would have killed him had he he tried to fight him,seems itachi was more afraid of obito than anything,and as I asked you before(because we're still going by feats)when have you seen itachi's susanoo or yata mirror deflect anything on the level of a ttb(were not talking about a good chance remember we're going by feat's),like I said again minato was the one who saved the village from being obliterated by kurama,not kushina and speaking of kushina she only had a part to play in binding down kurama with her chains because minato had saved her from being killed by kurama after he was striped from her).and as for bee reacting to ftg(and here's the really funny part)that since the ftg seal never disappears minato could have killed bee anytime he wanted but decided not to,and how was bee inexperienced he still had gained full control of the hachibi,and minato could have killed off a clan a lot faster than itachi(not to mention didn't itachi kill them while he was sleep? lol...Good job

 

[A v i]

People actually think their characters are different?

OT: Have been a fan of those guys for almost 8Y(Yes Iam a fan of Minato even b4 his appearance) and I like them equally.

 

[enditallsin]

:|
You just praised Minato for barely injuring a 14 year old Obito, when he himself was 26. But then you criticized Itachi for not beating the crap out of 21 year old Obito when he was a 14 year old kid. And you ignored the fact that Obito feared Itachi and didn't continue his plans due to his existence, even though the Akatsuki nearly never met all together in person and usually instead through holograms. That logic.

How the **** would itachi beat the crap out of obito? that my friend will never happen....second of all as I said before(to that other guy)obito was a 14 year old kid with senju dna implanted in him not only with one of the most op techniques in the series but a 14 with the knowledge and training of 1 of the most legendary and power ninja's of all time(who was over a hundred)so a 14 year older with the knowledge of a 100 year old man hmmmmm....using the age logic as a excuse isn't making to much since anymore lol,and itachi was face to face with obito and didn't so much as move a muscle like I said he negotiated with him,because itachi knew he would have killed him,than destroyed the village,who feared who now? lol itachi not once tried to confront obito knowing he was a huge treat and knowing that he couldn't be trusted but itachi didn't so much as bust a grape until AFTER he was dead, and that was through his kid brother lol,yea itachi was most defo scared of obito.

 

[deadp00l]

The one who would give up his life for others not the one who murders his family

 

[Madara ibn Lahad]

Itachi I like him better.

 

[partha420]

Minato......Strong,Wise,Kind and Cool simultaneously,Did the most for the village and the first hero ever to be introduced in the Anime/Manga..........have been a fan since day 1.

 

[Chie]

First of all I don't care how old obito was he was still trained by madara uchiha,and was strong enough to pull off a feat that only madara was able to do in the past not to mention he had all madara's knowledge past on to him, that combined with obitos already op bloodline limit made his one of the ninja worlds most deadliest ninja,age didn't mean shit,age was not even a factor,and btw itachi did not react to kirin fast at all sasuke even took a moment to try and intimidate itachi with the technique before he struck itachi so no itachi had time to get ready to activate susanoo,itachi was smart enough to know obito would have killed him had he he tried to fight him,seems itachi was more afraid of obito than anything,and as I asked you before(because we're still going by feats)when have you seen itachi's susanoo or yata mirror deflect anything on the level of a ttb(were not talking about a good chance remember we're going by feat's),like I said again minato was the one who saved the village from being obliterated by kurama,not kushina and speaking of kushina she only had a part to play in binding down kurama with her chains because minato had saved her from being killed by kurama after he was striped from her).and as for bee reacting to ftg(and here's the really funny part)that since the ftg seal never disappears minato could have killed bee anytime he wanted but decided not to,and how was bee inexperienced he still had gained full control of the hachibi,and minato could have killed off a clan a lot faster than itachi(not to mention didn't itachi kill them while he was sleep? lol...Good job

You just lost all credibility the moment you stated you didn't think age was a factor. Kid Obito was on par with Minato and did not fear him. Adult Obito w/ more experience didn't dare complete any of his plans just due to Itachi's existence. Itachi activated his susanno in 1/1000 of a second. He let Sasuke give his little speech and didn't activate it until Sasuke ordered it to strike. Go back and look at the manga. Obito says otherwise. He was cautious around Itachi, he didn't complete any of his plans with Itachi existing & if he could have killed Itachi so easily w/ kamui, why didn't he? Itachi didn't benefit Akatsuki at all, he was assigned to capture Naruto but he purposely didn't and gave Hiruzen info. Obito was aware of this and yet still let him in. Why? The funny thing is that Obito still didn't complete his plans when 90% of the time, Itachi wouldn't be around him. Itachi was in Akatsuki for 7 years. It was stated in pt1, that the Akatsuki did not assemble all together for several years, since Oro left and he left when Itachi joined at the age of 14. So for the first 3 of those 7 years, Itachi didn't have a chance to take Obito out. Then we have the latter 4 years. The majority of the time, it was stated that the Akatsuki only traveled in pairs and were not all together, they just met through holograms. Itachi didn't really have any chance to take out Obito and go on a 1v1 against him. However, even though Itachi was rarely in Obito's presence, Obito still did not continue his plans due to Itachi being alive. Obito was afraid of Itachi, while Itachi didn't care. The sad thing is that Itachi nearly took Obito out from beyond the grave and made him use izanagi in order to get rid of the amaterasu activation. By your logic, I should say that Minato cannot deflect kirin, because he's never done it before. But I know he has the capablility to. Every Akatsuki member had the ability to deal with a TBB, whether that includes avoiding or deflecting. They were assigned to capture tailed beasts and that was their only mission. Yata mirror is stated to deflect all attacks, therefore it can deflect a TBB, I dont need to see it just as I don't need to see Minato use a s/t barrier to deflect kirin. Actually, Hiruzen pushed Kurama out of the village. Then Minato sent away the TBB and rasengan'd Obito, then Obito ran away, then Kushina held down Kurama so Minato could seal him. It was a group effort. He could barely control the Hachibi arm and couldn't even go full form at that point, he was inexperienced compared to what he is now. At that point, both Minato and Bee were even, they both had kunais at each other. That's what happened during that fight, then they respected each other and moved on. No Minato cannot kill off a clan faster than Itachi can. He can eliminate an army while Itachi cannot yes, but a clan no. Why am I saying this? Because the Uchiha would notice his kunais littering their district and they know his jutsu due to it being widely known...he's their hokage. Also, it's not a wide flat area, there are many buildings, etc. Itachi didn't want to kill his clan, he wanted to protect Konoha which he did and saved his clan from getting eliminated painfully by other Konoha shinobi who would rip them apart. You know that.

 

[Chie]

How the **** would itachi beat the crap out of obito? that my friend will never happen....second of all as I said before(to that other guy)obito was a 14 year old kid with senju dna implanted in him not only with one of the most op techniques in the series but a 14 with the knowledge and training of 1 of the most legendary and power ninja's of all time(who was over a hundred)so a 14 year older with the knowledge of a 100 year old man hmmmmm....using the age logic as a excuse isn't making to much since anymore lol,and itachi was face to face with obito and didn't so much as move a muscle like I said he negotiated with him,because itachi knew he would have killed him,than destroyed the village,who feared who now? lol itachi not once tried to confront obito knowing he was a huge treat and knowing that he couldn't be trusted but itachi didn't so much as bust a grape until AFTER he was dead, and that was through his kid brother lol,yea itachi was most defo scared of obito.

This reply wasn't directed towards me, but you can read my last post if you want.

 

[Vega]

I guess it depends on personal likes.
If someone likes a kind yet goofy Goku character, they will like Minato.
If someone likes a badass Vegeta character, they will like Itachi.
Just my 2 cents.
I like both, but Itachi more.

 

[Chie]

The one who would give up his life for others not the one who murders his family

Itachi saved his family the pain of being annihilated by Konoha shinobi in war, saved Konoha, and was tormented & hated himself for the rest of his life even though he made the right decision and had no better options.

Minato killed 1000s in war & didn't care how it would affect their families.

 

[enditallsin]

You just lost all credibility the moment you stated you didn't think age was a factor. Kid Obito was on par with Minato and did not fear him. Adult Obito w/ more experience didn't dare complete any of his plans just due to Itachi's existence. Itachi activated his susanno in 1/1000 of a second. He let Sasuke give his little speech and didn't activate it until Sasuke ordered it to strike. Go back and look at the manga. Obito says otherwise. He was cautious around Itachi, he didn't complete any of his plans with Itachi existing & if he could have killed Itachi so easily w/ kamui, why didn't he? Itachi didn't benefit Akatsuki at all, he was assigned to capture Naruto but he purposely didn't and gave Hiruzen info. Obito was aware of this and yet still let him in. Why? The funny thing is that Obito still didn't complete his plans when 90% of the time, Itachi wouldn't be around him. Itachi was in Akatsuki for 7 years. It was stated in pt1, that the Akatsuki did not assemble all together for several years, since Oro left and he left when Itachi joined at the age of 14. So for the first 3 of those 7 years, Itachi didn't have a chance to take Obito out. Then we have the latter 4 years. The majority of the time, it was stated that the Akatsuki only traveled in pairs and were not all together, they just met through holograms. Itachi didn't really have any chance to take out Obito and go on a 1v1 against him. However, even though Itachi was rarely in Obito's presence, Obito still did not continue his plans due to Itachi being alive. Obito was afraid of Itachi, while Itachi didn't care. The sad thing is that Itachi nearly took Obito out from beyond the grave and made him use izanagi in order to get rid of the amaterasu activation. By your logic, I should say that Minato cannot deflect kirin, because he's never done it before. But I know he has the capablility to. Every Akatsuki member had the ability to deal with a TBB, whether that includes avoiding or deflecting. They were assigned to capture tailed beasts and that was their only mission. Yata mirror is stated to deflect all attacks, therefore it can deflect a TBB, I dont need to see it just as I don't need to see Minato use a s/t barrier to deflect kirin. Actually, Hiruzen pushed Kurama out of the village. Then Minato sent away the TBB and rasengan'd Obito, then Obito ran away, then Kushina held down Kurama so Minato could seal him. It was a group effort. He could barely control the Hachibi arm and couldn't even go full form at that point, he was inexperienced compared to what he is now. At that point, both Minato and Bee were even, they both had kunais at each other. That's what happened during that fight, then they respected each other and moved on. No Minato cannot kill off a clan faster than Itachi can. He can eliminate an army while Itachi cannot yes, but a clan no. Why am I saying this? Because the Uchiha would notice his kunais littering their district and they know his jutsu due to it being widely known...he's their hokage. Also, it's not a wide flat area, there are many buildings, etc. Itachi didn't want to kill his clan, he wanted to protect Konoha which he did and saved his clan from getting eliminated painfully by other Konoha shinobi who would rip them apart. You know that.

Itachi was was going being the akatski's back to give naruto power,not to mention snuck to konaha with without letting kisame know his true intentions hmmmm...,and itachi seemed to be more afraid of obito's existence, because like I said this man is negotiating with a mass murdering fake madara who just tamed the nine-tails and almost destroyed your home if you can eliminate a threat like that you would no debating on that fact....however itachi not once stepped to obito I doubt itachi had to gut's to even look at obito the wrong way. Plus you gotta ask yourself the question, what could itachi have really done? absolutely nothing all he had was in his arsenal was a deal and obito simply respected that, hell even itachi hyped obito to be "invincible and immortal" why? because obito had to show itachi something(most like through the massacre) to make him believe that he was madara uchiha..and lets face it that was power itachi was not stupid enough try and fight,so itachi is smart... smart enough know obito would have destroyed him so itachi tried to work in the shadow's being obito's back(even though obito knew everything he did)itachi had to much time to activate his susanoo in the fight with sasuke like I said go back and look at the fight,the kirin even came out the sky and looked dead at itachi for a moment before striking him so itachi knew it was coming it was a tack that just came out the blue at a speed 1/1000 of second,and how didn't obito complete any of his plan's lol? while itachi was still alive obito obtained 7 of the nine-tailed beast, he was got jiriaya out of the was and at the time he was the strongest in konaha,btw you said "Minato cannot deflect kirin" now you just lost credibility because minato doesn't deflect attacks he teleports them, and he could have most certainly teleported kirin if it were coming down at him(or just simply avoid it with ftg) and from beyond the grave the itachi never made obito use izanagi he just simple used kamui it was that simple and itachi still failed so much from beyond the grave lol(Now that's funny)...but if you wanna talk about a man who actually accomplished a great feat from beyond the grave than you must give credit to minato because just his chakra by itself was single handily enough to stop kurama from fully reviving during the pein invasion and potentially destroying the whole village. And at the end of the day space time barrier's feat's are still better than yata's mirror's(which only deflected some kunai with explosive tag's attached and a sword, I'am forgetting anything else it did? oh yes! I forget it was strong enough to bash back some hydra's..-_- Okkaaaay...real nice feat their..lol. Minato can't kill off a clan faster than itachi? ill 1st off start by saying this, minato can do anything faster than itachi theirs no denying that, second not only could minato kill off a clan(with him naturally being a much faster ninja and all..)but if you were to put minato in the scenario that itachi was in when he killed off the clan(which he didn't even do by himself) at night while everyone was sleep minato would have most certainly gotten it done fast with or without FTG because you got to think about it minato the fastest man in his era and mission to eliminate a bunch of people at night? Do you realize your only giving him a advantage with them terms? lol,What hiruzen did was more or less give kurama the range it needed for a TTB that could have obliterated the village when he pushed it out, minato just simple made up for that with his space time barrier,and yes it was a group effort but minato was the backbone to it,Where did you see bee having any problem controlling the arm of the hachibi? he controlled it perfectly and what proof do you have that he couldn't even go full form at that? where is this stated? how is this confirmed? because it was even said that bee learned how to control gyuki's power in a short period of time,and he used it against minato and minato handled it with no sweat at all,and another funny thing is if minato had lived through the obito invasion he could have easily tracked obito down and killed him no matter where he was because the FTG seal never disappears(as well as bee)itachi on the other hand fastest attack failed against obito and another funny thing is that it was a surprise attempt minato fastest attack at least did damage and made a difference ,hell even if itachi wanted to killed obito he would have never not only been able to find obito but he wouldn't even be able to touch him itachi just didn't have the tools necessary for a task of that caliber minato how ever did. You know that..and you say that obito feared itachi because he didn't touch konaha while itachi was alive,let me ask you this why would obito disrespect the agreement itachi made when itachi just offered obito the blood of his own family to seal the deal? the deal was pretty solid(I give you the live's of my family and you leave my village alone) now if itachi didn't have anything good to offer obito that day than itachi would most likely been a corpse and the village would have most likely been destroyed with obito'd next plan,obtio most likely only respected the deal as long as he did because of what itachi offered him lol...

 

[Xāvî1]

Nagato...........

 

[closecombat22]

Itachi was was going being the akatski's back to give naruto power,not to mention snuck to konaha with without letting kisame know his true intentions hmmmm...,and itachi seemed to be more afraid of obito's existence, because like I said this man is negotiating with a mass murdering fake madara who just tamed the nine-tails and almost destroyed your home if you can eliminate a threat like that you would no debating on that fact....however itachi not once stepped to obito I doubt itachi had to gut's to even look at obito the wrong way. Plus you gotta ask yourself the question, what could itachi have really done? absolutely nothing all he had was in his arsenal was a deal and obito simply respected that, hell even itachi hyped obito to be "invincible and immortal" why? because obito had to show itachi something(most like through the massacre) to make him believe that he was madara uchiha..and lets face it that was power itachi was not stupid enough try and fight,so itachi is smart... smart enough know obito would have destroyed him so itachi tried to work in the shadow's being obito's back(even though obito knew everything he did)itachi had to much time to activate hisJust susanoo in the fight with sasuke like I said go back and look at the fight,the kirin even came out the sky and looked dead at itachi for a moment before striking him so itachi knew it was coming it was a tack that just came out the blue at a speed 1/1000 of second,and how didn't obito complete any of his plan's lol? while itachi was still alive obito obtained 7 of the nine-tailed beast, he was got jiriaya out of the was and at the time he was the strongest in konaha,btw you said "Minato cannot deflect kirin" now you just lost credibility because minato doesn't deflect attacks he teleports them, and he could have most certainly teleported kirin if it were coming down at him(or just simply avoid it with ftg) and from beyond the grave the itachi never made obito use izanagi he just simple used kamui it was that simple and itachi still failed so much from beyond the grave lol(Now that's funny)...but if you wanna talk about a man who actually accomplished a great feat from beyond the grave than you must give credit to minato because just his chakra by itself was single handily enough to stop kurama from fully reviving during the pein invasion and potentially destroying the whole village. And at the end of the day space time barrier's feat's are still better than yata's mirror's(which only deflected some kunai with explosive tag's attached and a sword, I'am forgetting anything else it did? oh yes! I forget it was strong enough to bash back some hydra's..-_- Okkaaaay...real nice feat their..lol. Minato can't kill off a clan faster than itachi? ill 1st off start by saying this, minato can do anything faster than itachi theirs no denying that, second not only could minato kill off a clan(with him naturally being a much faster ninja and all..)but if you were to put minato in the scenario that itachi was in when he killed off the clan(which he didn't even do by himself) at night while everyone was sleep minato would have most certainly gotten it done fast with or without FTG because you got to think about it minato the fastest man in his era and mission to eliminate a bunch of people at night? Do you realize your only giving him a advantage with them terms? lol,What hiruzen did was more or less give kurama the range it needed for a TTB that could have obliterated the village when he pushed it out, minato just simple made up for that with his space time barrier,and yes it was a group effort but minato was the backbone to it,Where did you see bee having any problem controlling the arm of the hachibi? he controlled it perfectly and what proof do you have that he couldn't even go full form at that? where is this stated? how is this confirmed? because it was even said that bee learned how to control gyuki's power in a short period of time,and he used it against minato and minato handled it with no sweat at all,and another funny thing is if minato had lived through the obito invasion he could have easily tracked obito down and killed him no matter where he was because the FTG seal never disappears(as well as bee)itachi on the other hand fastest attack failed against obito and another funny thing is that it was a surprise attempt minato fastest attack at least did damage and made a difference ,hell even if itachi wanted to killed obito he would have never not only been able to find obito but he wouldn't even be able to touch him itachi just didn't have the tools necessary for a task of that caliber minato how ever did. You know that..and you say that obito feared itachi because he didn't touch konaha while itachi was alive,let me ask you this why would obito disrespect the agreement itachi made when itachi just offered obito the blood of his own family to seal the deal? the deal was pretty solid(I give you the live's of my family and you leave my village alone) now if itachi didn't have anything good to offer obito that day than itachi would most likely been a corpse and the village would have most likely been destroyed with obito'd next plan,obtio most likely only respected the deal as long as he did because of what itachi offered him lol...

here the smartest man in nb

 

[FourthSmokage]

Itachi was was going being the akatski's back to give naruto power,not to mention snuck to konaha with without letting kisame know his true intentions hmmmm...,and itachi seemed to be more afraid of obito's existence, because like I said this man is negotiating with a mass murdering fake madara who just tamed the nine-tails and almost destroyed your home if you can eliminate a threat like that you would no debating on that fact....however itachi not once stepped to obito I doubt itachi had to gut's to even look at obito the wrong way. Plus you gotta ask yourself the question, what could itachi have really done? absolutely nothing all he had was in his arsenal was a deal and obito simply respected that, hell even itachi hyped obito to be "invincible and immortal" why? because obito had to show itachi something(most like through the massacre) to make him believe that he was madara uchiha..and lets face it that was power itachi was not stupid enough try and fight,so itachi is smart... smart enough know obito would have destroyed him so itachi tried to work in the shadow's being obito's back(even though obito knew everything he did)itachi had to much time to activate his susanoo in the fight with sasuke like I said go back and look at the fight,the kirin even came out the sky and looked dead at itachi for a moment before striking him so itachi knew it was coming it was a tack that just came out the blue at a speed 1/1000 of second,and how didn't obito complete any of his plan's lol? while itachi was still alive obito obtained 7 of the nine-tailed beast, he was got jiriaya out of the was and at the time he was the strongest in konaha,btw you said "Minato cannot deflect kirin" now you just lost credibility because minato doesn't deflect attacks he teleports them, and he could have most certainly teleported kirin if it were coming down at him(or just simply avoid it with ftg) and from beyond the grave the itachi never made obito use izanagi he just simple used kamui it was that simple and itachi still failed so much from beyond the grave lol(Now that's funny)...but if you wanna talk about a man who actually accomplished a great feat from beyond the grave than you must give credit to minato because just his chakra by itself was single handily enough to stop kurama from fully reviving during the pein invasion and potentially destroying the whole village. And at the end of the day space time barrier's feat's are still better than yata's mirror's(which only deflected some kunai with explosive tag's attached and a sword, I'am forgetting anything else it did? oh yes! I forget it was strong enough to bash back some hydra's..-_- Okkaaaay...real nice feat their..lol. Minato can't kill off a clan faster than itachi? ill 1st off start by saying this, minato can do anything faster than itachi theirs no denying that, second not only could minato kill off a clan(with him naturally being a much faster ninja and all..)but if you were to put minato in the scenario that itachi was in when he killed off the clan(which he didn't even do by himself) at night while everyone was sleep minato would have most certainly gotten it done fast with or without FTG because you got to think about it minato the fastest man in his era and mission to eliminate a bunch of people at night? Do you realize your only giving him a advantage with them terms? lol,What hiruzen did was more or less give kurama the range it needed for a TTB that could have obliterated the village when he pushed it out, minato just simple made up for that with his space time barrier,and yes it was a group effort but minato was the backbone to it,Where did you see bee having any problem controlling the arm of the hachibi? he controlled it perfectly and what proof do you have that he couldn't even go full form at that? where is this stated? how is this confirmed? because it was even said that bee learned how to control gyuki's power in a short period of time,and he used it against minato and minato handled it with no sweat at all,and another funny thing is if minato had lived through the obito invasion he could have easily tracked obito down and killed him no matter where he was because the FTG seal never disappears(as well as bee)itachi on the other hand fastest attack failed against obito and another funny thing is that it was a surprise attempt minato fastest attack at least did damage and made a difference ,hell even if itachi wanted to killed obito he would have never not only been able to find obito but he wouldn't even be able to touch him itachi just didn't have the tools necessary for a task of that caliber minato how ever did. You know that..and you say that obito feared itachi because he didn't touch konaha while itachi was alive,let me ask you this why would obito disrespect the agreement itachi made when itachi just offered obito the blood of his own family to seal the deal? the deal was pretty solid(I give you the live's of my family and you leave my village alone) now if itachi didn't have anything good to offer obito that day than itachi would most likely been a corpse and the village would have most likely been destroyed with obito'd next plan,obtio most likely only respected the deal as long as he did because of what itachi offered him lol...

Do you even have an enter/return button, or know what it does for that matter?

 

[Ovan]

I would say equal.