^This is the best post in this thread.I like both. But Itachi's story life makes me prefer him more.
To all you people, both of them are good characters, don't unleash your fanboyism by insulting one of them.
Minato or Itachi ?
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He cannot look at Itachi at all in order to fight him. He'll get caught in a genjutsu due to not possessing Kurama when he was alive and lose.
ot: Itachi's more interesting than boring Minato, so Itachi for the win on this.
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You just praised Minato for barely injuring a 14 year old Obito, when he himself was 26. But then you criticized Itachi for not beating the crap out of 21 year old Obito when he was a 12 year old kid. And you ignored the fact that Obito feared Itachi and didn't continue his plans due to his existence, even though the Akatsuki nearly never met all together in person and usually instead through holograms. That logic.
FleeOnSight
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I still to this day find it amazing that people praise a mass murderer idc what his reasons were it's just wrong. I'm going with minato anyday of the week.
Rinnesense
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That lack of understanding tho. Well, if you're gonna say that might as well say that Minato killed his wife by not resealing Kurama into her and he commited suicide. He also ruined Naruto's childhood by sealing a demon inside him. That's actually worse if you look at in black & white. Itachi's clan was done for either way. Minato had choices but screwed himself over.
FleeOnSight
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You sound like a idiot. Re sealing or not the jin dies once the tb is removed. No matter what you do. Kushina couldn't be saved. He sealed kurama in naruto and look at all the good it's actually done. Without naruto there wouldn't be a need for this war cause akatsuki would've easily captured all the jins. Nothing minato has done could be compared to itachi killing his own clan. You can defend him if you want it's just shows the type of person you are and the type of person you look up too. Itachi is a idiot konoha was clearly wrong for what they did to the Uchiha he knew this and still chose the village over his clan.
Kurama himself stated that it would save Naruto. As of now, Naruto is still in his subconscious and Obito hasn't even finished sealing it inside him. You just said that it would have been better for Akatsuki to kill and capture the main character to prevent war? That shows what type of person you are, you want people to be enslaved in a dream world. No, what Minato did really can if you compare it in black and white. People look up to Itachi because this is a story about shinobi, not real life. More characters have stated that he is a hero than have stated that Minato is a hero. His clan was going out either way and negotiations failed as a previous user said. They were done for. People like him because he saved the shinobi world from war and how hard he worked to preserve it. He protected those who hated him and never once complained. Even as an edo when he had no more obligations to protect the shinobi world, especially since his life had been so terrible due to it, he still wanted to give it his all and protect them anyway. The clan didn't stand a chance against Konoha but wouldn't go out for a fight. It shows what type of person you are, considering that you are complaining that a clan was eliminated that was going to die anyway in a war along w/ 1000s of others. You would rather have the latter option. Now that is disturbing. The Uchiha and Konoha were both at fault. Fugaku was leading his clan to suicide and Hiruzen was way too lenient and let Danzo do as he wished. Then Shisui and Itachi were pulled into the mess and didn't have any other options.
Minato is obviously better..
Though people in NB say that he was a failure and blah blah
But considering similar circumstances, if Itachi was a super genius, why didn't he find another way out of that coup d'etat??
Why kill your entire clan for some misunderstanding?
This is a serious setback of plot for Itachi..
However, Minato didn't do anything which was directly a failure.. How could he know that Obito was still alive? How could he save Rin when he was not around ? How could he save the village when he dint have Sharingan or Wood- style? and many others
Itachi is however an excellent character and I like him
BUT, Minato is not DUMB, FAILURE or anything of that sort
Though people in NB say that he was a failure and blah blah
But considering similar circumstances, if Itachi was a super genius, why didn't he find another way out of that coup d'etat??
Why kill your entire clan for some misunderstanding?
This is a serious setback of plot for Itachi..
However, Minato didn't do anything which was directly a failure.. How could he know that Obito was still alive? How could he save Rin when he was not around ? How could he save the village when he dint have Sharingan or Wood- style? and many others
Itachi is however an excellent character and I like him
BUT, Minato is not DUMB, FAILURE or anything of that sort
They're both good. Minato isn't dumb and very smart as well. But he has done things which directly constitue to being a failure. He stopped Kakashi from killing Obito which led to madara getting the ability to take him over and become a juubi jin.
Madara when he was at least in his 20s couldn't convince his clan to follow him and was even rejected by them in favor of the Senju. It's not a plot setback for a 13 year old Itachi to not be able to convince the clan against a coup, especially when it's a much worse situation because years have gone by with the Uchiha and Konoha hating each other. Negotiations failed. Fugaku was leading his clan into suicide against all of Konoha and the Uchiha wanted to overthrow Hiruzen to take total political power. Hiruzen was way too lenient and didn't push in negotiations enough and Danzo was an a**. Both sides are at fault. Itachi made it clear in his speech from pt1 in front of those 3 jounin and his own father that he didn't like the clan-centered way of thinking, so essentially he wasn't for the coup. His own dad didn't care and ignored his son. It was past the point of negotiations and this was clearly shown when the only option left was a KA by Shisui, but that failed as well. A 13 year old was left w/ no other options, besides war and having himself and the rest of the clan go down in shame for being Konoha traitors once they die or to kill them himself and make sure they die painlessly so that they remain the innocent ones. He chose the better option and carried the pain by himself.
Itachi killed his clan w/ no other options left and they would have died during the coup regardless, they would cause problems for Konoha's military force, but they wouldn't last long considering that the military force is basically every shinobi. The Uchiha didn't want to come to a compromise and neither did the elders. Itachi couldn't do anything else to stop his clan's fate and actually preserved their honor because they look like the victims and Itachi looks like the psycho when in reality he is the hero who saved Konoha and the shinobi world. No one is revering mass murder in general, because these circumstances cannot possibly exist in real life. No clan gets stronger through hatred/is greedy/thirsts for more power and would attempt to take complete political power over a nation which doesn't even like them in the first place. No 13 year old double spies exist that have impossible choices to make. No leader exists that is a total yes man and doesn't even know what is going on in his own nation at the time. It's a fictional story about shinobi. Itachi is a hero in this context, he couldn't convince his clan and neither did Shisui. Shisui and Itachi were the only ones who cared about their home and the clan as well. Others have stated that Fugaku was leading his clan on a suicide mission, it's true. People protect their leader. The Uchiha clan would have been disgraced and known as traitors upon being eliminated by the Konoha shinobi. If Hiruzen were more adamant and less lenient, it wouldn't have happened. The hokage let Danzo do whatever he wanted for over 50 years behind his back. Danzo was a jerk about everything. Both sides can be blamed, bar Shisui and Itachi. Why? Itachi told his dad, his father didn't care. No one sided with him bar Shisui. Fugaku was willing his clan risk be eliminated for political power, do you really think he didn't know the risks? Shisui attempted a KA, he failed due to Danzo's influence. Then Shisui died and Itachi was left all alone, his best friend was gone and the Uchiha were going to act. They didn't come to a compromise nor did they want to. Itachi had no better options and made the most morally sound choice available given the situation. Hashirama and Hiruzen even agreed with Itachi's choice and stated that he was a hero.
You're not looking at the context of the story. If I look at things the way you do, then Minato is a mass-murderer times 10. He killed well over 3000 shinobi in war and has the highest kill count in the series after Madara. It was in the 3rd shinobi world war, but with the variety of techniques he has, he wouldn't even have to kill them. Also, did he care after he killed them and think about their families or feel bad at all? No, he could have cared less. You're looking at the context of the story selectively. Minato who has killed 1000s & not cared is a hero to you, but Itachi who was confirmed to kill less than 30 (maybe even less, Obito was there as well) & was tormented about it for the rest of his life is a mass-murderer. And they both did it to protect Konoha.
In the context of the story, they're both heroes, with Itachi stating to having been even moreso of one and the better shinobi.
FourthSmokage
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I'll go with Minato because he didn't slaughter a clan while they were asleep, he slaughtered an entire war.
Siva Deepan
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