[Theory] Is sage's name important aabout his origins?

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So his name was revealed and it's Ootsutsuki Bagoromo.

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So according to this, Bagoromo was from Ootsutsuki clan, right? In this page, it is stated that Bagoromo was the first person who was born with chakra which leads to the conclusion that his clan, and every other clan, had as members mere humen till that moment, correct?

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I want to ask you a question: Based on what do we define each clan that came after sage? Based on its signature abilities such as Nara clan. Since Bagoromo had two sons, shouldn't they also have his name, the name of his clan which is Ootstsuki? However they're only known as senju and uchiha ancestors. Why is that? Because it's their abilities that made them differ as their special traits. Senju's strong body and livability, uchiha's strong visual prowess. That explains why those 2 clans were known as the most fearsome since they were the first people, after the sage who got to have chakra.

My point is that the sage himself belonged to a clan which till that moment had as clan members mere humen. However what if by becoming the jinjuuriki of the 10 tails, got abilities which were traits only to him? We know for a fact that he was the only person to have the rinnegan so that makes him special right? What else do we know about him? We know that he survived the extraction of a tailed beast, the progenitor of them to be specific, we know that he knew some powerful sealings, we know that he was a monk who was seaking peace as well as that he had some powerful lifeforce. Aren't all these things undeniable facts so far?

Now I would like to make a comparison with another clan: the uzumaki clan. Apart from the rinnegan part, all the other traits I said aren't characteristics of the specific clan as well?


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Question, why did Kurama recognize sage's sealing at naruto and why the uzumaki mask in order to be activated needed to be in front of the uchiha tablet, a tablet which was written by the sage himself and why does his older son's dojutsu bears a great similarity to the uzumaki symbol and why does he sit in a throne with uzumamki's symbols?


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How can you explain that the first uchiha ancestor, a man from ootsutsuki clan, has uzumaki's symbol in his dojutsu, since according to you, uchiha and senju were the very first 2 clans with chakra and therefore uzumaki were non-existent but yet we see the very first sage's son having it in his dojutsu?

I think that you know where I'm getting with it.

As I stated before, clans that came when chakra started to appear were probably defined by their very special abilities. However, in sage's case, all clans were the same because they didn't have chakra they were just mere humen. However, the fact that the sage was the first person who was born with chakra as well as the fact that he became the first jin gave him special traits ( I support that the sage did get rinengan from the Juubi but that's not the subject here).


So my question to you is this: Why all the things we know about the sage, his sealing techiques, the capacity of living even after the extraction, him being a monk as well as what I said about his older son and about Kurama reconnaisance of Naruto's seal don't point towards the fact that the sage, that the very first person with chakra, who had in fact the traits of uzumaki, wasn't the uzumaki ancestor?

Explain me how the third person who ever had chakra, sage's older son got to have as dojutsu's symbol the uzumaki symbol something which according to you was not even existent back then.
 
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Funny thing is the Uchicha have a red colored doujutsu. The ancestor has red eyes as well. His eyes look like the Uzumaki clan symbol.

What if the Uchiha Ancestor was the father of the Uchiha and Uzumaki? Uchiha's are known for their smarts or at least the ones we have been introduced with.

Hmmm..... Ancestor > Uzumaki & Hyuuga > Uchiha

but nvm not possible
 

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good effort. .
if SDO hadn't made that theory. . no one would have about about sage's clan i think. . wel maybe a lil ;)
 

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Good. I appreciate ur efforts dude
Thank you=D
Funny thing is the Uchicha have a red colored doujutsu. The ancestor has red eyes as well. His eyes look like the Uzumaki clan symbol.

What if the Uchiha Ancestor was the father of the Uchiha and Uzumaki? Uchiha's are known for their smarts or at least the ones we have been introduced with.

Hmmm..... Ancestor > Uzumaki & Hyuuga > Uchiha

but nvm not possible
No this is comletely impossible. As it had been stated sharingan evolves into rinnegan so it's not possible for a person to have already the the state of rinnegan in its pre-evolutionary state since rinnegan most probably comes from the Juubi itself.
good effort. .
if SDO hadn't made that theory. . no one would have about about sage's clan i think. . wel maybe a lil ;)
Thank you=D
 

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Nice theory bro =D
BTW : Did you noticed Juubi's eye in the image. There are not tomoes in its eye. It is pure RInnegan. I guess Sage got the rinnegan from Juubi.
Let me explain it in a clear way
Kaguya ate the fruit having the Juubi's chakra.
She gave birth to sage who got Rinnegan from the birth itself.

One correction please, The mask in Oro's hand didn't got activated directly in front of the Tablet. After Oro put it on his face it got activated (covered in aura) . Also as soon as he removed the mask, the aura around him vanished.

About the Uzumakis, I think they're relatives to the Ootsutsuki clan and then sided with Senjus or the whole Village including the Uchihas.
 

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Nice theory bro =D
BTW : Did you noticed Juubi's eye in the image. There are not tomoes in its eye. It is pure RInnegan. I guess Sage got the rinnegan from Juubi.
Let me explain it in a clear way
Kaguya ate the fruit having the Juubi's chakra.
She gave birth to sage who got Rinnegan from the birth itself.

One correction please, The mask in Oro's hand didn't got activated directly in front of the Tablet. After Oro put it on his face it got activated (covered in aura) . Also as soon as he removed the mask, the aura around him vanished.

About the Uzumakis, I think they're relatives to the Ootsutsuki clan and then sided with Senjus or the whole Village including the Uchihas.
Thanks for clearing it a bit up=D

What I said about uzumaki mask is that it needs the specific tablet, otherwise why did they have to go there in the first place? After all death reaper's seal is most probably another uzumaki sealing.
 

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Well nice theory and enjoyable to read I must say... even although it doesn't have too many pictures in compare to text lol.

Anyway I believe that Sage of six paths was Uzumaki and Ootsutsuki..., simple as that.

Why ?

Because Ootsutsuki surname was inherited by sage of six paths from his Mother , Princess Kaguya. However it's surname is connected to none shinobi clan, simple as that.

Then why Uzumaki next ?

Because Sage of six paths was first human born with chakra..., discovered Ninjutsu and as first shinobi who may begin first shinobi clan ever aka Uzumaki clan with Sage as ancestor of this clan. Of course this is not rule as Sage of six paths may be not only Uzumaki, but also The Great Father of all shinobi clans..., at least the bigger ones.

This is exactly as I believe it went down:

Princess Kaguya-> Sage of six paths(inherited Ootsutsuki surname and began shinobi clan called Uzumaki)-> Sage of six paths sealing Juubi in himself(Uzumaki+ Juubi)-> Elder Son(Juubi's eye mutated) and Younger Son(Juubi's body mutated) [created via Creation of all things]-> Sage of six paths removes Juubi from himself-> Sage of six paths created Tailed beasts and seal Juubi empty body into mooon-> Old Sage of six paths divided his all remaining chakra in nine parts and seal each not equal amount in each tailed beast.

This is how the story went down in my opinion ;)
 
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Well nice theory and enjoyable to read I must say... even although it doesn't have too many pictures in compare to text lol.

Anyway I believe that Sage of six paths was Uzumaki and Ootsutsuki..., simple as that.

Why ?

Because Ootsutsuki surname was inherited by sage of six paths from his Mother , Princess Kaguya. However it's surname is connected to none shinobi clan, simple as that.

Then why Uzumaki next ?

Because Sage of six paths was first human born with chakra..., discovered Ninjutsu and as first shinobi who may begin first shinobi clan ever aka Uzumaki clan with Sage as ancestor of this clan. Of course this is not rule as Sage of six paths may be not only Uzumaki, but also The Great Father of all shinobi clans..., at least the bigger ones.

This is exactly as I believe it went down:

Princess Kaguya-> Sage of six paths(inherited Ootsutsuki surname and began shinobi clan called Uzumaki)-> Sage of six paths sealing Juubi in himself(Uzumaki+ Juubi)-> Elder Son(Juubi's eye mutated) and Younger Son(Juubi's body mutated) [created via Creation of all things]-> Sage of six paths removes Juubi from himself-> Sage of six paths created Tailed beasts and seal Juubi empty body into mooon-> Old Sage of six paths divided his all remaining chakra in nine parts and seal each not equal amount in each tailed beast.

This is how the story went down in my opinion ;)
Always enjoyable to have your opninion:x3:
 

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Maybe the Uzumaki clan was a third clan formed by the two sons... The Uzumaki clan had incredeible powers indeed. Why they are so good for sealing bijuus? Because thay got that power from the Rikudoo. Good theory bro
 

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So you're saying that it's wrong and yet you don't know understand what I'm trying to say but nonetheless you know it's wrong?:mad:_@:
can u read? i said SDO's theory was wrong...which i assume SDO means sir derp obito...and than what i said about your theory is that i dont get what your trying to say why dont u tell me now with a conclusion paragraph
 
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