Clearing up Yata Misconceptions

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Yata mirror seems to be the talk of the town considering everyone believes it can be broken. To Further clarify I will show both definitions of Yata mirror since everyone feels Yata can be beaten by Kamui or any other type of attack.


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In this definition it states that Yata is a spiritual weapon without physical form with the power to change it's properties to render the attack useless.

With this information from definition 1 There are 3 common misconceptions that are explained in this definition

1) Q: Can Yata Block more than 1 type of attack?

A: Yes, due to the fact that when he used Kunai and Explosive tags. Kunai(Metal) Explosive tags(Fiery Explosion) and Kinetic explosion damage was all blocked simultaneously.

2) Q: Can Yata block 360?

A: Yes due to the fact that Yata has no physical form and is a spiritual entity it is able to change it's properties thus nullifying all attacks. Examples of Yata shape manipulation [ ]

3) Q: Can Yata Be absorbed or does it have a weakness to any type of energy

A: No due to the fact that it is a , and entity thus is not bound by the realm of chakra and is completely unaffected due to it's abilities.


Definition 2: Yata disbelievers never want to use.


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This definition is the definition that sets Yata at the top in terms of why it can deflect any type of attack.

In this definition it states that Yata is a shield that repels any attack, In the face of a gods powers, all attacks, whether from a material or astral body, ninjutsu, or physical, lose their meaning.

Now to finally hush the non-believers.

This is some of the questions I get a lot when it comes to Yata mirror:

1) Q: Can an attack that breaks any defense, or is unavoidable beat Yata? and if not it is a Paradox.

A: No! The reason being is because Kishi put in a special rule for Yata to make sure it is kept at the top. That rule is the "lose their meaning" rule. With this said.. If an attack that can't be blocked IE (Helmsplitter, Hellbringer, Kamui, Amaterasu, Black Liquid, ALL non blockable techs) went up against Yata. Yata would make the attack "lose it's meaning" thus the attack loses it's OP property and thus is blocked. With this said if helmsplitter(Break all defense) and Kamui(Un blockable) attack yata mirror.. then Helmsplitter would lose it's break all defense meaning and would be blocked. Kamui would lose it's un blockable meaning and would be blocked.

2) Q: Special abilities will beat yata?

A: No, the second definition clearly states material(Material is anything made of matter), astral(spiritual), ninjutsu, physical will be blocked.

Examples of Material:

Nature Energy
Senjutsu
Yang

Examples of Astral:

Fuuinjutsu
Chakra
Yin

3) Q: What is yata mirror?

A: Further explained in definition two it states that Yata is a Godly entity thus including Definition 1(stating it's spiritual) and the manga(stating its supernatural). We can conclude that Yata is something not created but might have possibly always been around. With this being said Yata mirror has no affiliation with the Sage of Six Paths, chakra, or any clan relations.

FYI for the "Every Jutsu has a weakness" guys... Yata mirror is not a jutsu


To conclude... Though most people will continue to not accept Yata due to it belonging to Itachi. This is all the proof you need so feel free to do with it whatever you like.

Logical users: If you so happen to need to defend Yata mirror. You have my full permission to use this thread anytime

For those interested in Totsuka I have an explanation here:
 
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360block.. i just dont believe that at all... even the itachi said even the strongest jutsus/stuff has their weaknesses.. i think yata mirror CAN be destroyed.. so far it just blocked sasukes kunai with explosion tag on it xd with stronger type of attacks you can prolly smash it to pieces.
 

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the databook also says kamui is unblock-able so it comes down to which is better and we cant prove this, its the same as the 3rd raikage he had the strongest defense and the strongest attack yet one of them was better than the other so its the same here
 

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the databook also says kamui is unblock-able so it comes down to which is better and we cant prove this, its the same as the 3rd raikage he had the strongest defense and the strongest attack yet one of them was better than the other so its the same here
you obviously did not read the second part...

Yata mirror is not a jutsu
 

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Let me bold the important parts of Kamui for you people

"There is No defense possible (here comes the most important part) No matter what

So according to the databook it doesn't matter if Yata changes his attributes to Match kamui it still won't block the attack.


Yata = hyperbole Simple at that.
 

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Let me bold the important parts of Kumai for you people

"There is No defense possible (here comes the most important part) No matter what

So according to the databook it doesn't matter if Yata changes his attributes to Match kumai it still won't block the attack.


Yata = hyperbole Simple at that.

Did not read the below section obviously
 

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The databook is great for objective facts like statistics, but if you're going to rely on what are clearly hyperbolic statements to prove a point, you are giving your argument an extremely weak foundation. Unless you're one of the people who believes that Chou Odama Rasengan "tears up the sky and swallows everything," of course.
 

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I disagree with answer to question 3. Edo tensi is a jutsu completely based on the sealing of spirits, with this brig said I think you could seal the mirror
 

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Honestly, does it even matter? I mean, Yata mirror was shown years ago in one fight (Itachi/Sasuke), did it even appear in their fight against Kabuto? I don't remember, but for sure it didn't play a major role in that fight. So, why are people arguing this thing that is now completely irrelevant to the plot?
 

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The databook is great for objective facts like statistics, but if you're going to rely on what are clearly hyperbolic statements to prove a point, you are giving your argument an extremely weak foundation. Unless you're one of the people who believes that Chou Odama Rasengan "tears up the sky and swallows everything," of course.
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I disagree with answer to question 3. Edo tensi is a jutsu completely based on the sealing of spirits, with this brig said I think you could seal the mirror
True, but, yata is a Godly entity of the supernatural

so what you cant prove that kamui will not work on yeta mirror you have two statements that contradict each other get over it
Yata states all attacks "Lose their meaning" so kamui loses it's meaning of being unblockabe
 

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And itachi fanboys can't seem to get the fact that kishimoto has used hyperboles on many cases and this is one of them. He exaggerated on the fact that it was invincible and can deflect any attack. If yata mirror is so great then where is it's godly feats? Oh right, it doesn't have any..
 
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