Sasuke>/=KM Naruto Speed department or Reaction??

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Since when did Sasuke fanboys use logic? :|

Sasuke fanboys think Kurama has an unlimmited supply of chakra to feed Naruto, which feeds him chakra so he maintains a 100% chakra level. They also don't believe that physical damage is any factor. Naruto basically tanked the Juubi's attacks while giving away all his chakra. He is completely exhausted. Fanboys don't understand that though :(

Sasuke < A < Naruto

ABC logic works with speed, understand that!
 

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So this is the level Sasuke fans have sunk to. Interesting.
GTFO. Ur the one saying naruto has slowed down on purpose. :stfu:
Sasuke < A < Naruto

ABC logic works with speed, understand that!
For that to be true, even situations must be compared.
Stationary sasuke vs A. 2m distance.
Naruto on the run vs A. 10m distance

Arent quite same conditions. Tell me of ur logic now.
 
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GTFO. Ur the one saying naruto has slowed down on purpose. :stfu:

He hasn't slowed down. He's just not using his full speed. Unless you can provide manga proof that Naruto was at his max speed, this is not a valid speed feat. Unless you wanna argue RS> Version 2 Ay and is also equal to the speed of enton.
Naruto slowed down due to exhaustion. Not because he physically slowed on purpose :sy:
This or there was simply no need to use his full speed. Whatever the case its quite obvious to everyone(except Sasuke fans ofc) that Kishi didnt mean to make a valid speed comparison between Sasuke and Naruto.
 
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Its goddamn irrelevant what naruto has trained himself for. Did we see him train for that rikudou seal he used on kurama?
Big fat NO, yet he has it. Manga explicitly states naruto has body flicker /thread

Why are you so angry? I don't see any reason why you should since I'm being civil in a debate.


Body flicker is described to be using chakra to vitalize the body to move at extreme speeds for a short duration. That would require a lot of control. This is something he did not have when he first got KCM. Plus, what's the point for Kishimoto to hype how fast Naruto's suddenly become if any skilled ninja could do it?
 
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Why are you so angry? I don't see any reason why you should since I'm being civil in my debate.
Body flicker is described to be using chakra to vitalize the body to move at extreme speeds for a short duration. That would require a lot of control. This is something he did not have when he first got KCM. Plus, what's the point for Kishimoto to hype how fast Naruto's suddenly become if any skilled ninja could do it?
Isnt managing whole chakra aura around u and forming arms etc is more complicated then pumping more energy into ur body? I think he got all the control needed. Kishi didnt hype anything except spiritual items lol. Opinions from manga characters arent always fact.
 

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GTFO. Ur the one saying naruto has slowed down on purpose. :stfu:

For that to be true, even situations must be compared.
Stationary sasuke vs A. 2m distance.
Naruto on the run vs A. 10m distance

Arent quite same conditions. Tell me of ur logic now.

I can't even decide whether you're trolling or not...

Sasuke couldn't dodge A attempting to chop him, hence the enton shield. If he was faster, it makes 10x more sense to dodge, than take a hit. Even if taking his arm out was a good strategy, he took a massive amount of damage to his neck. If he didn't have his susanoo up, he would be headless right now. I commend Sasuke for quick thinking, but he's simply not faster than A.

Sasuke has a 4.5 in speed(He has no known speed enhancements).
I believe it's safe to assume A has a 5 in the databook, being the second fastest shinobi to live.

Sasuke's is based on the third Databook. A's is based on obvious manga fact.
 

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I can't even decide whether you're trolling or not...

Sasuke couldn't dodge A attempting to chop him, hence the enton shield. If he was faster, it makes 10x more sense to dodge, than take a hit. Even if taking his arm out was a good strategy, he took a massive amount of damage to his neck. If he didn't have his susanoo up, he would be headless right now. I commend Sasuke for quick thinking, but he's simply not faster than A.

Sasuke has a 4.5 in speed(He has no known speed enhancements).
I believe it's safe to assume A has a 5 in the databook, being the second fastest shinobi to live.

Sasuke's is based on the third Databook. A's is based on obvious manga fact.

Don't bother arguing with someone who came up with this beauty. You'll find that things like logic and deductive reasoning are works of fiction to him.
Why do ppl keep saying this BS. How does one deflect anything w/o contact?

On topic. Yeah sasuke is on par. I find him abit stronger but that my fan part.
Him using enton w/o susanoo is very chakra efficient. It was base sasuke, we didnt even see him use the sharingan.
 

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I can't even decide whether you're trolling or not...
Sasuke couldn't dodge A attempting to chop him, hence the enton shield. If he was faster, it makes 10x more sense to dodge, than take a hit. Even if taking his arm out was a good strategy, he took a massive amount of damage to his neck. If he didn't have his susanoo up, he would be headless right now. I commend Sasuke for quick thinking, but he's simply not faster than A.
I wouldnt bother to dodge or run around if i had susanoo ribs. Enton was just a guarantee that A wont attack recklessly. A's thinking isnt best either. Dodging something (not to mention A) from behind w/o sensory skills is hard.

Sasuke has a 4.5 in speed(He has no known speed enhancements).
I believe it's safe to assume A has a 5 in the databook, being the second fastest shinobi to live.

Sasuke's is based on the third Databook. A's is based on obvious manga fact.
Sasuke had CM, yet he never bothered to use it and gain upper hand vs itachi in speed battle, where he was just a little behind.
Ur correct thou, A is faster, but not too fast for sharingan.
But then again A was owning naruto in speed also. Naruto just used smart strategy. He was on the run and then used shunshin all that at 90º angle in relation to A. In doing so he created variable speed effect and A had hard time to change his direction while shunshin. Mind u that shunshin is linear motion. So basically naruto failed to display superior speed, he used smarts rather. But none of that matters since all naruto fans interpret it as being faster, right?

@Trolling sage. My statement is still correct, we didnt see sasuke use sharingan. So u failed once again. Try failing sage instead :p
 
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I wouldnt bother to dodge or run around if i had susanoo ribs. Enton was just a guarantee that A wont attack recklessly. A's thinking isnt best either. Dodging something (not to mention A) from behind w/o sensory skills is hard.


Sasuke had CM, yet he never bothered to use it and gain upper hand vs itachi in speed battle, where he was just a little behind.
Ur correct thou, A is faster, but not too fast for sharingan.
But then again A was owning naruto in speed also. Naruto just used smart strategy. He was on the run and then used shunshin all that at 90º angle in relation to A. In doing so he created variable speed effect and A had hard time to change his direction while shunshin. Mind u that shunshin is linear motion. So basically naruto failed to display superior speed, he used smarts rather. But none of that matters since all naruto fans interpret it as being faster, right?

Naruto didn't out smart A. He simply used his superior speed, as even stated by A. The only other person to dodge his fastest attack was Minato. Despite any round-a-bout methods. No other shinobi has that feat. A is also faster than Sasuke's sharingan. He beat the vision by dodging the ameterasu. A is superior to Sasuke in speed by every definition of the word.
 

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@Trolling sage. My statement is still correct, we didnt see sasuke use sharingan. So u failed once again. Try failing sage instead :p
Oh really?
Why do ppl keep saying this BS. How does one deflect anything w/o contact?

On topic. Yeah sasuke is on par. I find him abit stronger but that my fan part.
Him using enton w/o susanoo is very chakra efficient. It was base sasuke, we didnt even see him use the sharingan.
 

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Naruto didn't out smart A. He simply used his superior speed, as even stated by A. The only other person to dodge his fastest attack was Minato. Despite any round-a-bout methods. No other shinobi has that feat. A is also faster than Sasuke's sharingan. He beat the vision by dodging the ameterasu. A is superior to Sasuke in speed by every definition of the word.
U make it easier for me lmao. So if u throw a baseball ball at me and i dodge it, i automatically become faster?
I never questioned A being faster then sasuke. But sasuke has sharingan to make up for his lack of speed.
A used smart strategy however, to dodge the sight. Sasuke accomplished that long ago vs itachi and at bigger distance.
U overlook feat of sasuke thou. No other shinobi but minato and sasuke found themself at A's back
Oh really?
Yeah really, they are co-dependant. One is a statement another is a base behind it. Ur not fooling me lmao
 
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I wouldnt bother to dodge or run around if i had susanoo ribs. Enton was just a guarantee that A wont attack recklessly. A's thinking isnt best either. Dodging something (not to mention A) from behind w/o sensory skills is hard.


Sasuke had CM, yet he never bothered to use it and gain upper hand vs itachi in speed battle, where he was just a little behind.
Ur correct thou, A is faster, but not too fast for sharingan.
But then again A was owning naruto in speed also. Naruto just used smart strategy. He was on the run and then used shunshin all that at 90º angle in relation to A. In doing so he created variable speed effect and A had hard time to change his direction while shunshin. Mind u that shunshin is linear motion. So basically naruto failed to display superior speed, he used smarts rather. But none of that matters since all naruto fans interpret it as being faster, right?

@Trolling sage. My statement is still correct, we didnt see sasuke use sharingan. So u failed once again. Try failing sage instead :p

Its been proven in the manga that everytime Sasuke is in combat, he has his sharogan activated. He had it activated. Hes not gonna just use enton then activated 2 panels later
 

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Its been proven in the manga that everytime Sasuke is in combat, he has his sharogan activated. He had it activated. Hes not gonna just use enton then activated 2 panels later
He engaged bee w/o it and managed 1st hit :p
And next time just delete not needed stuff from quote. Lets keep it cleaner :p
 

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U make it easier for me lmao. So if u throw a baseball ball at me and i dodge it, i automatically become faster?
I never questioned A being faster then sasuke. But sasuke has sharingan to make up for his lack of speed.
A used smart strategy however, to dodge the sight. Sasuke accomplished that long ago vs itachi and at bigger distance.
U overlook feat of sasuke thou. No other shinobi but minato and sasuke found themself at A's back

Yeah really, they are co-dependant. One is a statement another is a base behind it. Ur not fooling me lmao

Where did you pull that from O_O.
 

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He engaged bee w/o it and managed 1st hit :p
And next time just delete not needed stuff from quote. Lets keep it cleaner :p

Cant on my pho e
I didnt say enagage I said while in combat. He used Ama which is an uchiha dojutsu against Bee which you need to activate the Sharigan to do. This doesnt refute manga facts nor what I stated
 

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Cant on my pho e
I didnt say enagage I said while in combat. He used Ama which is an uchiha dojutsu against Bee which you need to activate the Sharigan to do. This doesnt refute manga facts nor what I stated

Engaging is the start of combat. Sasuke resorted to sharingan after bee brought 8 swords.
In reagard to enton i just speculated. It could be his newly made KKG enton release, thus it wouldnt be big a deal.
Where did you pull that from O_O.

What exactly? At least bold it -.-
 
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Naruto slowed down due to exhaustion. Not because he physically slowed on purpose :sy:

How do you know he slowed down because of that, is there any indication of that? I am missing something...? making things up.?

He hasn't slowed down. He's just not using his full speed. Unless you can provide manga proof that Naruto was at his max speed
How do you know he is not using his fullSpeed? mind explaining?

-His friend its in danger of getting her as woop, do you think he will slow down?

Sasuke arrived at Sakura's sides with Sunshin as the image shows and Naruto came to second, did naruto used sunshin whoknows but until then the manga its supporting my claim.

@naruto x man
I will replay you in a few sec! I liked what you posted.

@inanimated!
You are wrong!
Sasuke and no one in their right mind would had ever thought that raikage will do an
 
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