Sasuke>/=KM Naruto Speed department or Reaction??

[SuperFlyzzED]

Wow the Naruto fanboys got scorched by AlphaScythian and Shelke! A word of advice to TrollingSage you're not omniscient at all. Your proof got worse as the discussion kept going page after page. You want to argue that Sasuke won't be able to keep up with KCM! I don't see Sasuke struggling against Naruto in that current mode. Sasuke has already fought speedsters such as Itachi, Bee, and Raikage. It really makes no differences how fast Naruto gets by the time of their battle. Sasuke can shield himself, if by chance he can't keep up. The last scans that you were trying to prove Alpha about Naruto are debatable. BM Naruto is probably faster than Raikage from what we've seen him do against the Six Paths. KCM Naruto is nearly on par with A's speed or equal. Sasuke without Sharingan would be in major trouble, because he wouldn't be able to read his opponents every shift in movement. Now, Sasuke actually did fairly well against V1 Raikage. He dodged his elbow and managed to hit him with a Chidori. You forget that A actually praised Sasuke in that fight it wasn't only Naruto. He said "To be able to touch him while clad in his lightning armor is really something." This is the Kage Summit Arc which was a long time ago. Naruto vs Raikage, he had a lot of room for movement, unlike his rival. This is why you also kept denying the facts when they were thrown back at you. In fact, Sasuke really doesn't need an extra boost in speed in order to be a challenge against Naruto. Didn't Naruto looked a bit worried about his opponent with the dangerous black flames? Exactly. Sasuke will keep up when they finally fight 1-on-1. Now if Sasuke struggles at some given moment in the fight that's alright cause he has Susanoo. Don't try to belittle the intelligence of the Sasuke Fanboys just because your claims were easily countered.

 

[TrollingSage]

Wow the Naruto fanboys got scorched by AlphaScythian and Shelke! A word of advice to TrollingSage you're not omniscient at all.

I take it you're not familiar with sarcasm?

Your proof got worse as the discussion kept going page after page

Atleast I had proof. All they had was one inconclusive manga scan

Sasuke has already fought speedsters such as Itachi, Bee, and Raikage

Itachi was near death. Zetsu even noticed a reduction in his speed and reaction. But do remind me what happened when Sasuke fought Bee without susano. He got a whole in his chest, twice

Now, Sasuke actually did fairly well against V1 Raikage. He dodged his elbow and managed to hit him with a Chidori. You forget that A actually praised Sasuke in that fight it wasn't only Naruto. He said "To be able to touch him while clad in his lightning armor is really something."

Yes Sasuke did fairly well against V1. But once A went v2, he had to resort to susano. Naruto dodged V2, not v1.

This is the Kage Summit Arc which was a long time ago. Naruto vs Raikage, he had a lot of room for movement, unlike his rival. This is why you also kept denying the facts when they were thrown back at you

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He definitely did. That was only the 2nd time using his new found powers.

Didn't Naruto looked a bit worried about his opponent with the dangerous black flames? Exactly. Sasuke will keep up when they finally fight 1-on-1. Now if Sasuke struggles at some given moment in the fight that's alright cause he has Susanoo.

Now you get it. Naruto acknowledged Sasuke's flames, but not his speed. You know why? Because it wasn't a race. Now since you sound like the more reasonable ones, let me ask you this. Has Kishi ever compared 2 characters' speed or hinted that one character is faster than the other without the use of character statements? I don't think there is. Do feel free to prove me wrong with manga pages though.
Lets get something straight. I don't care about Sasuke vs Naruto battles. What am arguing against is the idiocity of using one manga page where the character's aren't even racing nor is there any sort of statements that implies one character was faster than the other as absolute proof that Sasuke is faster than Naruto.

Don't try to belittle the intelligence of the Sasuke Fanboys just because your claims were easily countered.

Don't have to. They do a fairly good job themselves. Don't blame me. Blame the fanboys that come up with bold idiotic statements like "Sasuke wasn't shown using sharingan, that must mean he can use sharingan techniques without activating his sharingan."

 

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[Pravin5]

using your logic base naruto is faster than base sasuke(and we all know that's not true),according to this

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and don't give me sasuke wasn't 100%,because you didn't accept it when people told you so

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Woah bro... That's character bashing

 

[SASUKE IS ABOVE KAGE LEVE]

The main 3 reason behind why raikage dodged sasukes amaterasu
1.) raikage was aware on his technique to begin with
2.) sasuke was still an inexperienced user of the technique
3.) raiton armor + body flicker technique

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

I take it you're not familiar with sarcasm?

Atleast I had proof. All they had was one inconclusive manga scan
Itachi was near death. Zetsu even noticed a reduction in his speed and reaction. But do remind me what happened when Sasuke fought Bee without susano. He got a whole in his chest, twice
Yes Sasuke did fairly well against V1. But once A went v2, he had to resort to susano. Naruto dodged V2, not v1.
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He definitely did. That was only the 2nd time using his new found powers.
Now you get it. Naruto acknowledged Sasuke's flames, but not his speed. You know why? Because it wasn't a race. Now since you sound like the more reasonable ones, let me ask you this. Has Kishi ever compared 2 characters' speed or hinted that one character is faster than the other without the use of character statements? I don't think there is. Do feel free to prove me wrong with manga pages though.
Lets get something straight. I don't care about Sasuke vs Naruto battles. What am arguing against is the idiocity of using one manga page where the character's aren't even racing nor is there any sort of statements that implies one character was faster than the other as absolute proof that Sasuke is faster than Naruto.
Don't have to. They do a fairly good job themselves. Don't blame me. Blame the fanboys that come up with bold idiotic statements like "Sasuke wasn't shown using sharingan, that must mean he can use sharingan techniques without activating his sharingan."

You don't get it, Trolling. I mean that's why you have that title right? You must absolutely love to fool others and disclaim them in order to make yourself the intelligent one. What many fans here forget is that KCM or BM for that matter haven't done anything extraordinary with their speed. Naruto manage to save people's lives with his speed that's a respectable feat, but nothing more since he wasn't able to defeat nobody using speed alone. EMS Sasuke or Rinnegan Sasuke or whatever Kishi has planned for him is going to be Naruto's most pressing challenge. Naruto will Sasuke most pressing challenge as well, because they're both rivals. The final battle will represent the hard work both these ninjas went through to reach this level. The battle will be more intense than their last fight at the Valley. Sasuke is the eyes, Naruto is the body. You keep saying that Sasuke doesn't have the speed... Who cares about speed when you have the most dangerous humanoid with a flame orb, arrow, sword, etc... The young Uchiha can manipulate the field with his own Enton Release. He can has Lightning and Fire for situational purposes such as blocking or attacking close, mid, and long-range. Sasuke's arsenal definitely outclasses Naruto. I'm not saying just because his arsenal outclasses Naruto that he's the strongest out of the two. I'm just saying that compare to Naruto. Sasuke has more room to use his arsenal at any given moment in the fight to take the advantage. There's a reason why Kishimoto gave Naruto speed in the first place. First, Naruto needs the speed to evade Sasuke's Amaterasu and Enton. Second, Naruto has SM which is a resemblance of Jiraiya, so he needs speed to have a resemblance to Minato. Third, Naruto can gain the upper hand more easily, because of his speed. Let's be honest, Base Sasuke> Base Naruto's speed. Naruto is not faster than Sasuke without the use of probably KCM (debatable) or BM. Also, Sasuke doesn't need speed as i said in an earlier post. He has the Sharingan did you forget that one? He can read his opponent's every shift in movement. He has faced speedsters before so just because Naruto is the fastest it doesn't really make a difference. Frontal attacks against Sasuke with his speed will be arguably stupid, if the latter has Susanoo activated.

 

[TrollingSage]

You don't get it, Trolling. I mean that's why you have that title right? You must absolutely love to fool others and disclaim them in order to make yourself the intelligent one. What many fans here forget is that KCM or BM for that matter haven't done anything extraordinary with their speed. Naruto manage to save people's lives with his speed that's a respectable feat, but nothing more since he wasn't able to defeat nobody using speed alone. EMS Sasuke or Rinnegan Sasuke or whatever Kishi has planned for him is going to be Naruto's most pressing challenge. Naruto will Sasuke most pressing challenge as well, because they're both rivals. The final battle will represent the hard work both these ninjas went through to reach this level. The battle will be more intense than their last fight at the Valley. Sasuke is the eyes, Naruto is the body. You keep saying that Sasuke doesn't have the speed... Who cares about speed when you have the most dangerous humanoid with a flame orb, arrow, sword, etc... The young Uchiha can manipulate the field with his own Enton Release. He can has Lightning and Fire for situational purposes such as blocking or attacking close, mid, and long-range. Sasuke's arsenal definitely outclasses Naruto. I'm not saying just because his arsenal outclasses Naruto that he's the strongest out of the two. I'm just saying that compare to Naruto. Sasuke has more room to use his arsenal at any given moment in the fight to take the advantage. There's a reason why Kishimoto gave Naruto speed in the first place. First, Naruto needs the speed to evade Sasuke's Amaterasu and Enton. Second, Naruto has SM which is a resemblance of Jiraiya, so he needs speed to have a resemblance to Minato. Third, Naruto can gain the upper hand more easily, because of his speed. Let's be honest, Base Sasuke> Base Naruto's speed. Naruto is not faster than Sasuke without the use of probably KCM (debatable) or BM. Also, Sasuke doesn't need speed as i said in an earlier post. He has the Sharingan did you forget that one? He can read his opponent's every shift in movement. He has faced speedsters before so just because Naruto is the fastest it doesn't really make a difference. Frontal attacks against Sasuke with his speed will be arguably stupid, if the latter has Susanoo activated.

Lets get something straight. I don't care about Sasuke vs Naruto battles. What am arguing against is the idiocity of using one manga page where the character's aren't even racing nor is there any sort of statements that implies one character was faster than the other as absolute proof that Sasuke is faster than Naruto.

Seems you didn't read my post well. Am not saying Naruto wins against Sasuke due to his speed. That is an argument I don't want to get into. This whole argument is about that single seemingly insignificant manga page that your fellow Sasuke fans are using as absolute proof that Sasuke is faster than Naruto.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Seems you didn't read my post well. Am not saying Naruto wins against Sasuke due to his speed. That is an argument I don't want to get into. This whole argument is about that single seemingly insignificant manga page that your fellow Sasuke fans are using as absolute proof that Sasuke is faster than Naruto.

Sorry, Trolling. The way i see things is you trolling yourself. You have been making your posts about speed. You keep saying how Sasuke is going to struggle against Naruto because of his speed. I'm just saying to you that's complete redundancy. Also, Naruto in BM Naruto hasn't even managed to hit Madara. While Raikage hit Madara which he's supposely slower than Naruto. Itachi was going hand-to-hand combat against both Naruto and Bee. Naruto being faster means Itachi can't keep up with him. It also means that Itachi would have been hit and wouldn't have been able to block Naruto's attack. Sasuke can be on par with Naruto thanks to his Sharingan. Kishimoto can make Sasuke's base speed equal Naruto's if he wants as well. You also forget that the Sharigan has copying properties. Who's to say Sasuke hasn't been copying Bee and A.

 

[Lightning Release]

Only thing Sasuke is faster than Naruto in is getting saved.

didn't even read the OP.

 

[HadouKage]

Why do ppl keep reviving this thread? Let it stay as it is, dead, because its untrue

 

[TrollingSage]

Sorry, Trolling. The way i see things is you trolling yourself. You have been making your posts about speed. You keep saying how Sasuke is going to struggle against Naruto because of his speed. I'm just saying to you that's complete redundancy. Also, Naruto in BM Naruto hasn't even managed to hit Madara. While Raikage hit Madara which he's supposely slower than Naruto. Itachi was going hand-to-hand combat against both Naruto and Bee. Naruto being faster means Itachi can't keep up with him. It also means that Itachi would have been hit and wouldn't have been able to block Naruto's attack. Sasuke can be on par with Naruto thanks to his Sharingan. Kishimoto can make Sasuke's base speed equal Naruto's if he wants as well. You also forget that the Sharigan has copying properties. Who's to say Sasuke hasn't been copying Bee and A.

You made a couple of fails in your post. First of all , i think we all agree that the single scan doesnt prove sasuke's shishun is faster than narutos.
Now about sasuke having trouble because of naruto's speed, thats a fact. Just as naruto will have trouble with enton. Rocke Lee(Faster than naruto in base) blitzed madara due to km power up. I dont see why naruto's top speed cant repeat what Ay did against madara provided he doesnt break his leg like he did against kisame
Lastly u cant copy speed Sasuke had to physically TRAIN to achieve KB's speed. That 8 sword dance can be copied but the years KB spent achieving those speed must be equalled. Sharingan aids learning justsu but the work will have to done. Sasuke hasnt done any such work. His last fight against kabuto showed ms sasuke with ems(no extra dance, raiton armor or beee sword dance). I know his fanboys wishes he gets random powerup like hawks and shit but even kishi wont pull such bs nad make sasuke fight like Ay and B without any form of training

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[SuperFlyzzED]

You made a couple of fails in your post. First of all , i think we all agree that the single scan doesnt prove sasuke's shishun is faster than narutos.
Now about sasuke having trouble because of naruto's speed, thats a fact. Just as naruto will have trouble with enton. Rocke Lee(Faster than naruto in base) blitzed madara due to km power up. I dont see why naruto's top speed cant repeat what Ay did against madara provided he doesnt break his leg like he did against kisame
Lastly u cant copy speed Sasuke had to physically TRAIN to achieve KB's speed. That 8 sword dance can be copied but the years KB spent achieving those speed must be equalled. Sharingan aids learning justsu but the work will have to done. Sasuke hasnt done any such work. His last fight against kabuto showed ms sasuke with ems(no extra dance, raiton armor or beee sword dance). I know his fanboys wishes he gets random powerup like hawks and shit but even kishi wont pull such bs nad make sasuke fight like Ay and B without any form of training

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I'm not going to engulf myself in this arguement any further. You fail in a lot of aspects. You were trying to prove that Alpha and Shelke were wrong, and you clearly failed. The further i try to understand you; it becomes hard. You can copy speed, so i don't understand why you even bolded that sentence. Sasuke incorporated Lee's taijutsu in the Chunin Exams by studying him through his Sharingan. Point is Naruto didn't take long to become this powerful. Sasuke can be given speed-no-jutsu and it wouldn't matter. I mean Sakura knows her own seal and slug in just two chapters. Anything can happen in a matter of chapters it's called "Plot-no-jutsu." Ever heard of that word? Guess not.

 

[grenwood]

Sup guys!
if you coming to this thread for trolling purpose, get the **** out of here or I report ya!, only people with brain are allows.

Yesterday I checked out chapter 632 and noticed this image in particular, showing Sasuke and km Naruto attacking the ugliest version of something pulled out of Jubi's ass *Mini Jubies*.

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Sasuke managed to get behind Sakura's left sides without any sight of KM Naruto in the image, Also Sasuke has the lines of speed movement coming from up to down instead of coming from left to right or right left.

Those are the lines of Sunshin *Up to down*

In the next image we can see that Naruto came at second places and still has the lines of speed/wind which are right to left or left to right while sasuke as none at all.

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Does naruto ever used sushin? or rather a jump of pure raw speed.

It seems sasuke reacted and reached sakura faster with sushin matching or surpassing Naruto raw speed.
if I remember right naruto has not be able to land a hit on madara or obito on his own with all his speed.

So Sasuke>=KM Speed?

no sasuke is nowhere near as fast as naruto. naruto is moving at normal speed while sasuke is moving at full speed, even in kcm at full speed you cant even see naruto. also about the bold, by your own emmission your not allowed in your own thread. if your going to talk to people like that even if they are potential trolls you should actaully know what your talking about yourself which you dont which is why you had to ask about it. dont be a jerk like that. if you actaully made a decent theory i would understand but you clearly dont know what your talking about yourself in this thread.

 

[The Work]

Naruto was just wanting to follow Sasuke towards Sakura