Even if it dissapates all the Amaterasu (which I doubt) Sasuke can just spam it all over again. Not to mention, how will Naruto have time to do that when Sasuke will be chasing him with Amaterasu and such the entire time?
Even if it dissapates all the Amaterasu (which I doubt) Sasuke can just spam it all over again. Not to mention, how will Naruto have time to do that when Sasuke will be chasing him with Amaterasu and such the entire time?
You're talking like Naruto will execute things one by one...
Let us suppose, Sasuke creates a field of ama... Naruto charges in with a chakra blast and to quickly finish it, a TBB is sufficient... Considering TBB can disintegrate susanoo...
I mean, Naruto has more war xp than Sasuke... he can easily formulate any scenario to execute his tactics...
Same goes for Sasuke but Naruto has just more war XP...
Sasuke truly is on par with Naruto, if not having surpassed him.
We just saw last chapter that Sasuke's speed is close to Naruto's in KCM, and with the Sharingan Sasuke should have no problem following him.
EMS Susano'o and Incomplete BM for Naruto are more than likely equals, especially when you consider Sasuke has the ridiculous ability to spam the crap out of amaterasu and change its shape to hit Naruto. This is countered by Naruto's TBB, which Sasuke could tank MAYBE one of, but definetely not two.
In speed, power, and yes, even intelligence, they are most likely equals. Naruto has that wily unpredictable intelligence, and Sasuke the calm and calculated intelligence. They balance.
EMS Sasuke = BM Naruto
I respectfully disagree that EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto (Right Now).
Naruto was not shown to use effort of any kind to get Sakura like he did against V2 A or these occasions. In terms of speed, he didn't use full speed.
He does not need to use his full speed as he already killed the Juubi clone with Wind Element: Rasenshuriken. Second of all, Naruto's speed without TBM or SM is implicated to have increased as noted that he saved Sakura from he own Kunai at point-blank range.
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And he went ahead of Sasuke, even though he was fatigued fighting for 3 days and 3 nights as noted on this page.
The false misconception is that KCM makes Naruto running speed faster. That's actually false. KCM speed abilities is based on what seems to be Shunshin no Jutsu. If Naruto does not use his full speed, his running wouldn't actually be any different from Base Naruto.
Spamming Amaterasu costs more chakra than people think. EMS decreases the side effects of using MS abilities, not increasing chakra reserves.
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The New Doujutsu argument is very ambigious; it could very well mean that the EMS gave way to the Rinnegan, as EMS is needed for that doujutsu to unlock. Amaterasu takes energy to focus on a specific target first; and then he uses mental energy to manifest the black flames out of nothing.
The reason that Inferno Style existed is that Inferno Style takes less chakra than Amaterasu itself, making up for the fact that Sasuke lacks the vast amount of energy like Naruto. That's why Enton burns slower than Amaterasu.
Also take into account that Naruto can spam TBBs and Rasenshuriken. Notice that up until now, Naruto uses very enormous TBBs, manifesting the Kurama avatar, and using Shadow Clones which evenly divides the users' chakra for every clone he/she makes. These implicating that a colossal amount of energy is used while Sasuke's energy went as far as fighting Kakashi in the Kage Summit.
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If Naruto chooses not to uses large TBBs, he can at least spam a series of smaller ones as shown here.
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If he gets trapped in the Amaterasu field, he can jump out of it, as noted that he can jumped very high on this page looking at the mountain ranges.
You're saying they use susanoo because they are scared, of course you would so Madara is scared of the 5 kages? Susanoo is a defense not something for him to hide in. Speed is great and also power but When you have something that can counter that then you are golden and smart not scared.
And raikage flashed behind him and sasuke used amaterasu to stop him.
Dude Sasuke put amaterasu around the whole of his susano because he couldn't follow Ay's movements.
In short, he had already activated amaterasu before the Raikage tried to to blitz him.
I find this thread jus redundant why??? First BM Naruto & EMS Sasuke's speed hasn't been tested, Naruto wasn't fully healed after sharing must of his chakra with the shinobi on the field, Ems Sasuke hasn't been shown or proven on top speed...Jus on the basis of a panel?? Everyone wants to say Sasuke and Naruto are equal or that Sasuke is faster.. If ur gonna bring up proof provide hard facts not speculations or theories. I look at this thread as another Sasuke is on Naruto's level when it's been clearly shown he isn't..
You're talking like Naruto will execute things one by one...
Let us suppose, Sasuke creates a field of ama... Naruto charges in with a chakra blast and to quickly finish it, a TBB is sufficient... Considering TBB can disintegrate susanoo...
I mean, Naruto has more war xp than Sasuke... he can easily formulate any scenario to execute his tactics...
Same goes for Sasuke but Naruto has just more war XP...
I respectfully disagree that EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto (Right Now).
Naruto was not shown to use effort of any kind to get Sakura like he did against V2 A or these occasions. In terms of speed, he didn't use full speed.
He does not need to use his full speed as he already killed the Juubi clone with Wind Element: Rasenshuriken. Second of all, Naruto's speed without TBM or SM is implicated to have increased as noted that he saved Sakura from he own Kunai at point-blank range.
The false misconception is that KCM makes Naruto running speed faster. That's actually false. KCM speed abilities is based on what seems to be Shunshin no Jutsu. If Naruto does not use his full speed, his running wouldn't actually be any different from Base Naruto.
Spamming Amaterasu costs more chakra than people think. EMS decreases the side effects of using MS abilities, not increasing chakra reserves.
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The New Doujutsu argument is very ambigious; it could very well mean that the EMS gave way to the Rinnegan, as EMS is needed for that doujutsu to unlock. Amaterasu takes energy to focus on a specific target first; and then he uses mental energy to manifest the black flames out of nothing.
The reason that Inferno Style existed is that Inferno Style takes less chakra than Amaterasu itself, making up for the fact that Sasuke lacks the vast amount of energy like Naruto. That's why Enton burns slower than Amaterasu.
Also take into account that Naruto can spam TBBs and Rasenshuriken. Notice that up until now, Naruto uses very enormous TBBs, manifesting the Kurama avatar, and using Shadow Clones which evenly divides the users' chakra for every clone he/she makes. These implicating that a colossal amount of energy is used while Sasuke's energy went as far as fighting Kakashi in the Kage Summit.
The only way Sasuke would get the Rinnegan would be if he had Senju dna..No Uchiha can get it with out having Senju dna..I see Sasuke getting something else not the Rinnegan.Madara only got the Rinnegan upon his death but due to having Hashirama's dna .
Until Sasuke's EMS abilties are shown further, Sasuke is not on the level of Naruto.
Sasuke's speed is no where close to the level of Bijuu Mode naruto, as naruto demonstrated when he repelled 5 Bijuu damas with his speed alone.
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This feat alone made it clear that BM naruto has no rivals in terms of speed. Now you also try to argue that sasuke is faster or equal to naruto's speed based off him being alined with KM Naruto when they protected sakura. Yet, you clearly dont know if naruto just entered that mode at that moment to launch Rasenshuriken. There have been many example in the manga that prove that naruto has no (Living) peer in terms of speed anymore for instance when he blitz the gedo mazu:
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Once again a speed feat that sasuke has never demonstrated. Im not gonna post every example, but there are many different example's that i can find as to where naruto demonstrates some crazy speed feat that sasuke has never been close to performing.
Now in terms or strength and Sensory abilities, it is obvious that naruto trumps sasuke in both these catergories. As naruto has demonstrated OP Strenght feats and is known as the best sensor in the manga.
In terms of raw power, Naruto also takes this over sasuke, The most powerful technique sasuke has produced thus far has been Kirin. It is a very powerful technique and could also be considered a mountian buster, but it pales in compairison to naruto's arsenal.
Naruto has shown Bijuu Dama (mountain buster), Continous Bijuu Dama (MB), Rasenshuriken (Mountain Slicer and Juubi Slicer), Mini Tailed Beast Bomb, Big Ball Rasengan (Mountain Hollower), etc, etc.
Now we all know that sasuke's signature right now is Amaterasu, but is that really a problem for naruto? Not really.
Naruto has the ability to sense sasuke's intent to use it, and dodge it. And even if he didnt dodge it, Naruto's Kyuubi cloak has shown the durability to tank the strongest Fire Tech's with no difficulty, and as Amaterasu is simply the highest form of fire release, I dont see why it would hurt naruto at all. He could simply use his chakra appendages to push it off of himself.
As of now, sasuke is indeed catching up, but he is not on naruto's level yet.
Sasuke are superior to him in all those things all but power & skill they equal in that.
Sasuke jutsu > Naruto's
Sasuke is smarter than Naruto
Sasuke knows edo tensei he has copied it with his 3 tomoe and knows everything about the village akatsuki and the uchiha and the legendary battle. His knowledge is superior.
And he's already beaten Naruto many times, so who cares about speed?
Until Sasuke's EMS abilties are shown further, Sasuke is not on the level of Naruto.
Sasuke's speed is no where close to the level of Bijuu Mode naruto, as naruto demonstrated when he repelled 5 Bijuu damas with his speed alone.
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This feat alone made it clear that BM naruto has no rivals in terms of speed. Not you also try to argue than sasuke is faster or equal to naruto's speed based off him being alined with KM Naruto when they protected sakura. Yet, you clearly dont know if naruto just entered that mode at that moment to launch Rasenshuriken. There have been many example in the manga that prove that naruto has no (Living) peer in terms of speed anymore for instance when he blitz the gedo mazu:
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Once again a speed feat that sasuke has never demonstrated. Im not gonna post every example, but there are many different example's that i can find as to where naruto demonstrates some crazy speed feat that sasuke has never been close to performing.
Now in terms or strength and Sensory abilities, it is obvious that naruto trumps sasuke in both these catergories. As naruto has demonstrated OP Strenght feats and is known as the best sensor in the manga.
In terms of raw power, Naruto also takes this over sasuke, The most powerful technique sasuke has produced thus far has been Kirin. It is a very powerful technique and could also be considered a mountian buster, but it pales in compairison to naruto's arsenal.
Naruto has shown Bijuu Dama (mountain buster), Continous Bijuu Dama (MB), Rasenshuriken (Mountain Slicer and Juubi Slicer), Mini Tailed Beast Bomb, Big Ball Rasengan (Mountain Hollower), etc, etc.
Now we all know that sasuke's signature right now is Amaterasu, but is that really a problem for naruto? Not really.
Naruto has the ability to sense sasuke's intent to use it, and dodge it. And even if he didnt dodge it, Naruto's Kyuubi cloak has shown the durability to tank the strongest Fire Tech's with not difficulty, and as Amaterasu is simply the highest form of fire release, I dont see why it would hurt naruto at all. He could simply use his chakra appendages to push it off of himself.
As of now, sasuke is indeed catching up, but he is not on naruto's level yet.
Deflecting a TBB is easy, Naruto can't tank one but he can stop one
Sasuke can't deflect one but he can tank more than one while standing in front just like madara.
Speed is good but isn't everything.
Rasengan = chidori
and the rest of Naruto jutsu are useless
i didn't read the rest cause its irrelevant to what Naruto would do in a fight vs sasuke.
Deflecting a TBB is easy, Naruto can't tank one but he can stop one
Sasuke can't deflect one but he can tank more than one while standing in front just like madara.
Speed is good but isn't everything.
Rasengan = chidori
and the rest of Naruto jutsu are useless
i didn't read the rest cause its irrelevant to what Naruto would do in a fight vs sasuke.
"Deflecting a tailed beast bomb is easy"??? You couldnt name more than 2 people who could accomplish this other than Naruto, Madara, Hashirama, and yata mirror. It is not a easy feat at all. And my post wasnt solely about deflecting the TBB, it was the fact that he deflected it with his SPEED. Naruto didnt even have to touch it, which was my arguement as to why his speed was far superior to sasuke's.
Now you also say that naruto could NOT tank a TBB, yet the manga and I have to disagree there.
You do realize that the Bijuu Dama that madara tanked was not launched at him, but simply pushed at him with a thrust motion. And also notice that madara blocked it with his mountain busting swords, which sasuke does not have. Just becuase Madara had the TOOLS to accomplish this feat does not automatically mean the sasuke could do the same.
Though that may be true, chidori is not equal to Big Ball Rasengan, Planetary rasengan, Mini-rasenshuriken, rasenshuriken, or any other rasengan variant that naruto has created.
This is very far from being the truth. His shadow clone jutsu alone is the reason he wins most of his battles. They are far from useless. Sage Mode is far from useless. Actually I cant think of a jutsu in his entire arsenal that is useless, so which one are you referring too?
Why do ppl keep saying this BS. How does one deflect anything w/o contact?
On topic. Yeah sasuke is on par. I find him abit stronger but that my fan part.
Him using enton w/o susanoo is very chakra efficient. It was base sasuke, we didnt even see him use the sharingan.
Why do ppl keep saying this BS. How does one deflect anything w/o contact?
On topic. Yeah sasuke is on par. I find him abit stronger but that my fan part.
Him using enton w/o susanoo is very chakra efficient. It was base sasuke, we didnt even see him use the sharingan.
I thought that was very impressive also, that he was able to use enton, but we never saw him activate sharigan. Sasuke may be stepping up in the world.
