Zabuza vs Kabuto (Part 1)

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

no he cant counter it

Yes he can a bunch of unknown fodders were able to counter this genjutsu with ease and also Zabuza has full intel so he would easily be able to counter such a simple genjutsu.

 

[Orosanagi]

Yes he can a bunch of unknown fodders were able to counter this genjutsu with ease and also Zabuza has full intel so he would easily be able to counter such a simple genjutsu.

fodder? you mean the jonins? if you consider the jonins as fodders then I wonder who isn't
If so then Kabuto has full intel on Zabuza's mist and would easily escape it.

 

[Curse Mark]

Do you define the fact that I didn't consider the OP as ignorance?
Wait, what was that about ignorance, let me quote one of your many fails

You caught one of my only ignorant posts on here. Can we get this kid a medal?

Until then, you not fully reading the OP is a lot more ignorant than me not knowing a genjutsu from pt 1 by name. Zabuza counters the genjutsu, Kabuto has can't and wouldn't stay underground forever. He has no counter for silent killing. When he does come out, Zabuza takes this one, High Diff.

 

[Penguin]

fodder? you mean the jonins? if you consider the jonins as fodders then I wonder who aren't
If so then Kabuto has full intel on Zabuza's mist and would easily escape it.

Shikimaru slept through this genjutsu because he did not want to fight. He admited he was not affected. Sakura was not affected by it. Sakura (part 1) is the biggest fodder.

 

[Orosanagi]

Shikimaru slept through this genjutsu because he did not want to fight. He admited he was not affected. Sakura was not affected by it. Sakura (part 1) is the biggest fodder.

Can we get this kid the oscar of fails?
Just for your information, since part 1 Sakura was known to have great knowledge in genjutsus so considering her a fodder in this branch is just pure ignorance. As for Shikamaru and everyone else, they knew it was a genjutsu since they saw the fodder villagers being affected by it.

 

[Orosanagi]

You caught one of my only ignorant posts on here. Can we get this kid a medal?

Until then, you not fully reading the OP is a lot more ignorant than me not knowing a genjutsu from pt 1 by name. Zabuza counters the genjutsu, Kabuto has can't and wouldn't stay underground forever. He has no counter for silent killing. When he does come out, Zabuza takes this one, High Diff.

By name? Rofl care to re-read your post pls? You clearly said Kabuto had no genjutsu , so yes that's ignorance right there.

Who said he would stay underground he just has to get out of the area of the mist by traveling underground.

 

[Penguin]

Can we get this kid the oscar of fails?
Just for your information, since part 1 Sakura was known to have great knowledge in genjutsus so considering her a fodder in this branch is just pure ignorance. As for Shikamaru and everyone else, they knew it was a genjutsu since they saw the fodder villagers being affected by it.

I didn't say she was a fodder in 1 branch. She is a fodder over-all.

 

[Orosanagi]

I didn't say she was a fodder in 1 branch. She is a fodder over-all.

Yes but we're talking about genjutsu here so I don't see where you're going with this.

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

fodder? you mean the jonins? if you consider the jonins as fodders then I wonder who isn't
If so then Kabuto has full intel on Zabuza's mist and would easily escape it.

He can't counter it if he can't see,sense or hear Zabuza when he does hidden in the mist and silent killing. And yes those Jounins were fodder as chunnin exams Sasuke would have probably fodderised them.

 

[RicardoA]

With intel its even worst for Zabuza, Kabuto wins of course.

 

[Curse Mark]

By name? Rofl care to re-read your post pls? You clearly said Kabuto had no genjutsu , so yes that's ignorance right there.

Who said he would stay underground he just has to get out of the area of the mist by traveling underground.

Yes, by name. When you said Kabuto could use genjutsu, I checked his page, read each of his jutsu over and determined none were genjutsu by the name. I have never heard that genjutsu by name. It wasn't ignorance, really, it was me not knowing a part one genjutsu by it's name.

The mist is expansive enough that if Kabuto leaves, he's just running away? They are on a bridge. Honestly I dont see Kabuto running away.

 

[Penguin]

With intel its even worst for Zabuza, Kabuto wins of course.

How is it worse? Intel is better for Zabuza.

 

[Orosanagi]

He can't counter it if he can't see,sense or hear Zabuza when he does hidden in the mist and silent killing. And yes those Jounins were fodder as chunnin exams Sasuke would have probably fodderised them.

No, part 1 Sasuke is nowhere as strong as a jonin, except in curse mark state, but no.

Kabuto can counter it by going undergruond and escaping the area where the mist is. Quit thinking the mist jutsu is OP when in reality its sh1t.

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

No, part 1 Sasuke is nowhere as strong as a jonin, except in curse mark state, but no.

Kabuto can counter it by going undergruond and escaping the area where the mist is. Quit thinking the mist jutsu is OP when in reality its sh1t.

How is it shit if the only way to counter it is too have a strong sense of smell or to sense where your opponent is and Kabuto doesn't have any of these so he has no counter for silent killing as he won't be able to hear Zabuza all he will feel is kubikiribōchō tearing him apart. And those jounins were probably on the same level as Ebisu and Chunnin exam Sasuke could take Ebisu out.

 

[Penguin]

How is it shit if the only way to counter it is too have a strong sense of smell or to sense where your opponent is and Kabuto doesn't have any of these so he has no counter for silent killing as he won't be able to hear Zabuza all he will feel is kubikiribōchō tearing him apart. And those jounins were probably on the same level as Ebisu and Chunnin exam Sasuke could take Ebisu out.

Saskue does not have sexy jutsu. Ebisu > Saskue

 

[Penguin]

Read what I said, quit ignoring all the facts. Kabuto can just go underground and escape the mist area. As simple as.
And no Part 1 sasuke isn't beating Ebisu, quit understimating konoha's jonins, they would most likely fodderize all gennins. the experience gap between them is what makes Ebisu stronger.

Kakashi is as smart/smarter than Kabuto. Kakashi did not go underground, why would Kabuto?

 

[Penguin]

Because he had to protect Sakura/Naruto and Sasuke which were fighting alongside. He couldn't just leave them by themselves they would have died.

Zabuza was fightning Kakashi. Zabuza was going to kill the bridge guy and his students after Kakashi was defeated. And even if Kabuto went under, he would only last down their for 30secs-1 min tops because he needs air.

 

[Penguin]

No he doesn't need air, he can easily stay undergruond for several minutes, ninjas can hold their breath during a really long time.

Kakashi is their MASTER, he can't just flee the battle while their students are getting their ass kicked, goddamnit use some common sense, he has to watch over them whatever happens.

It is not fleeing? He is underround, not running away. Why are you angry? When is it stated ninja's can hold there breath for a extended period of time?

 

[Penguin]

Lol'd at all the questions.

No it's not fleeing, everything is permitted in a fight, besides he's not retreating he's just leaving the area of the mist, why would he stay in the freaking mist when he's at disadvantage? Again, use some common sense.

Tenten, Lee and Neji stayed in the water prison for like 5 minutes when Gai was fighting so yes they can hold their breath during a long time, educate yourself a bit, do you even read the manga?

Not all ninjas can hold there breath for super extended amounts of time. Tenten almost died and she was not in there for 5 minutes.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

5 minutes underwater is not that impressive.

The average is 4.

You also forget that is chakra water not actual water.