Actually, that's the Superman that completely destroys the value and power of the concept of a 'super hero.'
In one instance, Superman is toting over a dozen planets through the universe, with all of them chained together.
- What material is strong enough to CHAIN multiple planets together?
- HOW do you chain one planet to another?
- HOW does the population of those planets survive being moved from one spot in the universe to another?
- HOW does Superman out power the gravity of those planets to be able to move them?
- HOW do you establish that what he's doing is within the realm of reality, yet fits within the realm of fiction, and doesn't betray the integrity of the character?
- If Superman can move so many planets by whatever fictional means, how does his character retain any worth within the realm of the superhero?
These are all questions that really give fans a reason to scrutinize the hell out of the fiction behind the character, asking WHY he's even worth talking about when the writers clearly modified him to fix whatever problem they could come up with, which tends to completely ruin the fiction.
Powers I would credibly give Superman (while completely ignoring 'ages'):
- Heat/laser/x-ray vision.
- Hearing
- Flight
- Speed
- Strength
- Intelligence.
However, I would only give him a moderate amount of each of those things, because they give him credibility as a super hero while still making him identifiable as a semi human.
Read every single one of my post those all describe a post crisis superman who still kicks Goku's minkey a$$. Also don't say he's not worth talking about because he could meet any problem head on with his powers, because then that means you hate every anime's main character as they all recieve power ups when they arent strong enough want some examples?
Goku- Every form of SSJ, he was able to beat frieza so he got SSJ, he couldn't beat cell so he got SSJ2, he wan't strong enough for Majin Buu so he got SSJ3, he wasn't strong enough to beat baby Vegeta, so he got SSJ4.
Naruto- He wasn't able to take on five tailed beasts alone so Kurama decide that he likes Naruto all of the sudden.
Yu Yu Hakusho- The spirit orb he gets from Genkai a massive power that Originally wasn't his own.
U know what i hate in this kind of VS threads,it's when ppl haven't watched both sides & still comment :sy:
Goku can teleport himself through worlds,so what is space,Not to mention Sayins can breath in space
Plus if superman goes to space & Goku can't touch him
who now wins :sy:
Sayins can't breathe in space or they wouldn't have invented spaceships fail. Goku couldn't do anything if Superman flew him into space.
are you guys still on about this ok listen the maker of this thread said when he made it he didnt know who precrisis superman was so all of you who are talking about pre crisis superman are dumasss were talking about the regular everyday superman vs goku not the ****ing strong as god superman vs goku
p.s. next time ask which superman thier talking or look at the title and see it's just superman
Wtf? Goku vs Superman? You serious?
this is the title /\ he said superman
not pre-crisis superman
i just repeated what i said wow by the way why doesnt anyone choose the goku thats immortal if your wondering how he became immortal i think he fused with the dragon
first it say's superman that means any veriation because he didn't specify, or if you are saying he was already specific about the fight then he's talking about a goku who isn't in and SSJ form.
I would have never thought that anyone would say ANYONE can beat Goku..hes the stongest created character..comeon....and even if he cant win.. he can simply hit the hyperbolic time chamber for a few mins and get even stronger than superman. Vegeta or Gohan can beat superman!! dont put goku in this
I just thought I'd let you know you aren't even worth arguing with your ignorant.
Lol look up Darksieds Omega Vision see what it does to batman in one glance. Just caust TV cant explain how powerful it is doesnt mean i can't!
Omega Beams: Darkseid's main power. He focuses this power as a form of energy that he fires from his eyes. T
his effect is not only a relentless attack, but it is capable of teleporting the target to any location Darkseid chooses and recall them later or erase the target from the universe and similarly reform them. Darkseid has pinpoint control over his Omega Beams, and his unerring aim allows it to travel in straight lines or bend, twist or curve around corners. It has been shown that the Omega Beams are ineffective against the bracelets of Wonder Woman, as they were created from the Olympian Aegis. He has claimed that no being had yet withstood the full force of the Omega Beam, but Doomsday and Superman nonetheless survived the attack.
So dont say how weak TV is just stupid. that like me going off the anime on who would win in a Naruto fight. the anime is noncannon!