Would uchiha have beat the leaf

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Since the thread is about what would have happened had Itachi not killed the clan, then its pretty obvious the village would come out victorious. The village was aware of their plans and I dont think the uchiha alone would be able to defeat all of the konoha clans including the 3rd hokage and Danzo by themselves. Especially when you consider not all Uchiha even had the sharingan.
 

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Most of you are being childish. A coup is planned by keeping everything in mind and the number of soldiers/ninjas present for guard. The uchihas were not idiots. Do you think they had not thought of any scenario and were simply going by a stupid logic of, 'hey guys, we'll attack, like tomorrow night, if we get our asses handed to us, we'll hit the drawing board, kay?'

They were planning a coup by obviously keeping every factor in check. A hyuga is only useful in this light, if he/she is even using his senses and is awake. A coup is done in a very very sudden, hard and fast manner without any suspicion, so the uchiha at the guard would initiate it first, bringing in the support groups to take out the guards to the elders quarters and the hokage room, so on and so forth. Every factor is kept in check for a coup. They were planning this for quite a while, and obviously had planned out all the possible out-comes.

And what you fail to realize is the village is 100 times larger then the uchihas at that time! You asume they will kill everyone at once simutaneously! No! At best they would be able to kill 20 ninjas in 1 minute! After that minute the village is under alert! Fact!

Plus the fact the 24 hr sensor team would see uchihas killing and will alert!

Uchihas will not be able to be everywhere in teh leaf village at the same time while the leaf let them have there way! lmao if you think that you are the one being childish! Itachi knew it wouldnt succeed, and was tired of seeing ppl die!

They would never at that time been able to kill the best of the best at once with out them knowing! Sarutobi alone could possibly solo them! Plus the Anbu that are always on guard aswell?

You make it seem the leaf are noobs and will not be able to counter attack. lmao really? They bounced back from oru and sand invasion (which had more ninjas btw from 2 villiges!) and bouce back from pain invasion! They will cause havoc, but be overwhelmed in the end! To think they would win is retarded beyond belief because of these facts 1. not all had sharingan let alone 3 tome/ms/ems 2. the leaf is always on gaurd! Always!!! 3. the village is hugeeeeee and there isnt enough uchihas to effectively kill them all!
 

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Most of you are being childish. A coup is planned by keeping everything in mind and the number of soldiers/ninjas present for guard. The uchihas were not idiots. Do you think they had not thought of any scenario and were simply going by a stupid logic of, 'hey guys, we'll attack, like tomorrow night, if we get our asses handed to us, we'll hit the drawing board, kay?'

They were planning a coup by obviously keeping every factor in check. A hyuga is only useful in this light, if he/she is even using his senses and is awake. A coup is done in a very very sudden, hard and fast manner without any suspicion, so the uchiha at the guard would initiate it first, bringing in the support groups to take out the guards to the elders quarters and the hokage room, so on and so forth. Every factor is kept in check for a coup. They were planning this for quite a while, and obviously had planned out all the possible out-comes.

With the measures that the hyuuga take to protect the byakugan, I'm pretty sure that they have sensors all around the area scouting for intruders. If someone comes and attacks them, they will known and take measures to warn the village and defend themselves.

I'm are the anbu and root would disagree with your strategy considering they are all about protecting the village and the hokage.
 

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And what you fail to realize is the village is 100 times larger then the uchihas at that time! You asume they will kill everyone at once simutaneously! No! At best they would be able to kill 20 ninjas in 1 minute! After that minute the village is under alert! Fact!

Plus the fact the 24 hr sensor team would see uchihas killing and will alert!

Uchihas will not be able to be everywhere in teh leaf village at the same time while the leaf let them have there way! lmao if you think that you are the one being childish! Itachi knew it wouldnt succeed, and was tired of seeing ppl die!

They would never at that time been able to kill the best of the best at once with out them knowing! Sarutobi alone could possibly solo them! Plus the Anbu that are always on guard aswell?

You make it seem the leaf are noobs and will not be able to counter attack. lmao really? They bounced back from oru and sand invasion (which had more ninjas btw from 2 villiges!) and bouce back from pain invasion! They will cause havoc, but be overwhelmed in the end! To think they would win is retarded beyond belief because of these facts 1. not all had sharingan let alone 3 tome/ms/ems 2. the leaf is always on gaurd! Always!!! 3. the village is hugeeeeee and there isnt enough uchihas to effectively kill them all!

All the of the village is not made up of ninjas, so this 100 times is pure speculation on your part. I never even used the words 'kill everyone' I said take out, and kill people who would necessitate or expedite the coup. Itachi and Shisui can easily take out any top tier Hyuga, sorry to burst everyone's bubble here.

Don't bring anbu into this. They are literally low-tier ninjas compared to almost all decent ninjas we have seen. They shouldn't or wouldn't pose any threat to Itachi and Shisui of all people. No one bounced back from Pein's invasion. Which manga are you reading? Pein obliterated the village, killed countless people and ninjas...you call this bouncing back? Orocimaru obviously didn't know anything about Sarutobi's death god sealing technique, which he used as a last resort to kill him and didn't even succeed. Take that out of the picture, and who would've stopped Orochimaru?

The only reason why the fight ended the way it did was because of Orochimaru getting incapacitated because of his hands getting sealed; he had to flee. You cannot compare Itachi, Shisui to Orochimaru, as all of them are very different ninjas. Using counters for one fight against pure genjutsu users? Where is your proof that Sarutobi can counter a high level sharingen genjutsu, when Itachi has repeatedly said that only a sharingen user can break out of tsukiyomi?

Thirdly is your inability to accept that coup is not even remotely related to out in the open attacks. Orochimaru's attack was a war initiation and Pein's as well. A coup is not even remotely related. If Uchihas wouldn't have succeeded then why was Itachi so worried, and even the elders? They knew the balance of power would shift, hence the reason they wanted them out of the way. Face it, it isn't as simple as you make it out to be.
 

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obito,shisui,itachi and other uchihas would crush the leaf
 

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Shisui nor Itachi would not be part of the conflict. We know nothing about the other Uchiha.
 

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you guys are not readig the 1st post ur only reading the title smh...how would my scenario play out......to the guy who sa anbu and root would take care of the uchiha, u need to realize they got killed by a weak kabuto.... to the guy who said hyuugas would know about the coup you are retarded, and how come hinata got kidnapped and hiashi seen the guy by luck......coups are out of no where it would succeed, 3 tomoe sasuke took on 1 tailed kyuubi think about how strong uchiha are they are not only famous because of madara
 

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The uchiha's greatest wepons are only itachi, the police force, and possibliy masked man. (Who may or may not be tobi)
 

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Shisui nor Itachi would not be part of the conflict. We know nothing about the other Uchiha.

they would have been even itachi's father states " so you picked their side", you have to choice a side. so if the coup would have went down Itachi and shisui would have been with uchihas.
 

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The uchiha's greatest wepons are only itachi, the police force, and possibliy masked man. (Who may or may not be tobi)

uchihas greatest weapons are there eyes not people, and at that time itachi's whole family was famous within the uchiha clan seeing as how his father was leader, he was 13 and a prodigy, well sasuke was still a baby so.

no one in the clan knew of masked man so.....no but just for the sake of the coup we count Obito.
 

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I know people hate the uchiha but damn ... They aren't stupid and weak if we count all the uchiha at that time they could have won...
 

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Shisui and Itachi count but not Obito, since he isn't affiliated with the Uchiha Clan.

But if he saw all of them fighting he would take the uchihas side


Also shisui just has to Ka Danzou and hiruzen and its over
 

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I know people hate the uchiha but damn ... They aren't stupid and weak if we count all the uchiha at that time they could have won...

The thing is, they would be taking on an entire village with all of the clans. Eventually someone will find out and alert the village, most likely a hyuuga, inuzuka, or Aburame because of their sensing techniques.

Also, not every uchiha has a sharingan and even then not all uchihas with the sharingan are as battle adept as Itachi and shisui.
 

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The thing is, they would be taking on an entire village with all of the clans. Eventually someone will find out and alert the village, most likely a hyuuga, inuzuka, or Aburame because of their sensing techniques.

Also, not every uchiha has a sharingan and even then not all uchihas with the sharingan are as battle adept as Itachi and shisui.

Not having a sharingan doesn't mean you can't fight they could have had good techs they could use ... And they would have had a plan and a chance of winning ... You can plan a coup just to go get everyone killed ..
 

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But if he saw all of them fighting he would take the uchihas side


Also shisui just has to Ka Danzou and hiruzen and its over

He wouldn't take anyone's side since he dislikes the Uchiha Clan and the Leaf Village.
 

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He wouldn't take anyone's side since he dislikes the Uchiha Clan and the Leaf Village.

Fair point it's safe to say the uchiha didn't know about him when they were planning so they thought they could win by them self showing that they must have had a secret wep or something or a way to get in kill and take over
 
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