Would uchiha have beat the leaf

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The Uchiha would have gotten smacked by the leaf village, low-mid diff.

They got beat by Obito and Itachi, im pretty sure a whole village can destroy them.

you make it seems like obito is some easy nigga to beat, when he isn't. obito could have easily taken out the whole leaf low-diff with that mind set
 

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you make it seems like obito is some easy nigga to beat, when he isn't. obito could have easily taken out the whole leaf low-diff with that mind set

I'm speaking in terms of offense, Kamui and intangiblity is mostly defense. The Leaf Village has much more offense than Obito and Itachi,
 

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no, i don't think the uchiha would have won, your right there are alot of FODDER in the leaf but when fodder are in big numbers along side shinobi like hiruzen, jiraiya and danzo, kakashi guy and asuma .... (i know more but can't remember lol) then there is no way the uchiha would win (they would make alot of damage) but again the numbers are will be overwhelming, and ya did you say uchiha will take each other's eyes to get EMS ?? not gona happen (its going too far and the clan wouldn't do that to each other)
 

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Uchihas would have gotten their asses handed to them. Their only strong people were Itachi and shisui, and even then their power would still dwarf in comparison to the combined efforts of the entire village

Hyuuga
Nara
Akimichi
Inuzuka
Yamanaka
Aburame
Sarutobi

And then you have many other nameless ninja and their clans helping.

Just remember, not every uchiha could awaken the sharingan.
 

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Not EVERY Uchiha has MS and not everyone can get EMS plus to achieve that they would have to half their forces...
Plus it's the intense emotion of killing your friends etc that gives you MS, if you're so ruthless that you'll kill them to get power that way it won't work.

The ninja that attacked the leaf were Jonin and Chunin they were all bland extras essentially but it doesn't mean they were weak they were just there to showcase how strong the actual characters in the series are.
Shisui wouldn't have helped the coup so he wouldn't grant them the win at all their only hope would be the likes of Sasuke and Itachi's dad who would probably have been decently strong.


It wouldn't be that much of a surprise attack, Root and the Hokage knew about the Uchiha's plans they would have had ANBU on alert so casualties would be minimalized and the strong folk would be alerted.
The whole strategy to beat sharingan users is "never face one alone" imagine Kakashi and Gai were teaming up against them. Plus InoShikaCho etc.
 

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The uchiha couldve succeeded if it remained a secret. The info on the uchiha staging a coup is something that im sure itachi leaked out. If the village elders didnt have a clue, they obviously wouldnt be prepared for such an uprising. The element of surprise is what wouldve allowed the uchiha to truly do damage.

Basically very similar to how the uchiha werent prepared for the slaughter that itachi/obito did, if the clan decided to act in a similar manner, they couldve just have done something similar. Sneak up of folks in bed/whilst eating/on the toilet and killed them. Element of surprise would've decided it, much like how decided the massacre. The availability of izanagi would also prolong the fight if the uchiha deemed it necessary and going by the manga and the uchiha using it for mission where failure wasnt an option, this scenario fits in perfectly. Im certain izanagi wouldve been needed if they went ahead, there arent the strongest clan in konoha for nothing and its after the massare did the hyuga gain this title
 
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Uchihas were ruthless and selfish (power hungry)

here we go again, with this uchiha= ruthless and selfish; while senju= cupcakes and rainbows

look, we only know of a few uchiha that are like that:

uchiha who are ruthless and selfish
Madara
Obito

uchiha who are confused
Sasuke

uchiha who believed in peace [will of fire]
Itachi
Shisui
and
maybe itachi and sasukes father

and we only know of a few Senju

Senju who believe in will of fire
Hashirama
Tobirama
and
Tsunade

we don't know the whole story and on top of that most of what Itachi stated where lies.

remember when we thought he killed the clan like this:


but it turned out to be like this:


so no, if kohona wins it will be high- insane diff and vise-versa.
 
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I'm speaking in terms of offense, Kamui and intangiblity is mostly defense. The Leaf Village has much more offense than Obito and Itachi,

okay that makes sense, but answer me this who in the leaf would stop obito. lol i mean; if you can't touch him?.
 

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Do you guys think they would have a chance....
I think they would dominate pretty easily i mean look at what oro did with fodders and the sound 4

If they really thought bout I think they could if they assassinated best friends then just switched their MS most would all have EMS (ones with siblings at least)


Most of the leaf are fodder realistically heres all the challenges i believe can stand up to uchiha.....
HYUUGA, NARA, AKimichi, 3rd Hokage, DAnzo, (if you guys can think of more just say them)


Hyuuga can repel amateretsu but their vision should make them vulnerable to tsukyomi due to the fact they can always see the eyes

Nara clan can immoblize uchiha but amateretsu doesnt require movement so they are out of the pict

Akimichi are huge but as most have concluded PS is a EMS move and that would pawn them, even if not reg susanoo, tsukyomi, and amateretsu should take care of them

3rd hokage is a monster but has nothing for a susanoo arrow ot anything of that level, also shishui would not have attempted peace so he would have koto still to take control of hiruzen and use him against the leaf

danzo only has baku because he would never have a acquired the eyes but baku is beat by fire or PS

BAsically it should be pretty easy especially if its a surprise attack

what yall think

*****, i agree with you dude. kohona would have been called uchiha village if it wasn't for itachi leaking info
 

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There's most likely another MS user or 2 floating around..the uchiha are not fodder:they still have fire style jutsus,shuriken techs,the sharingan.

another thing to note is izanagi/izanami,the fact that there forbidden implies mutiple people have it


and for the hyuga genjutsu thing yea,if they look in. the uchihas eyes there caught.they see everything so there's bo way not see the eyes..pretty simple
 

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Lets say ~50 Uchihas vs hundrets of Leaf Ninjas? Dont compare Itachi to other Uchihas. Look at Obito before having Senju dna and Madaras help. Or Sasuke before Oros cursed seal (weaker than many other Ninjas like Lee, Neji, Gaara, Naruto 1tail etc.) And even Sasuke was a strong Uchiha at this age (stated by Oro). So i dont think we can compare tachi to other Uchihas. There was no way Itachi+Sishui could handle this. ( Sishui lost his eye against Danzou, just a wind element ninja lol)
 

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Some times this base wants me to cry out loud. A coup is a secret over-throw of the government, note the word secret? If secrecy was kept and Itachi had not rated out his own clan like an idiot, the coup would've been 100% successful because it had the element of surprise on its side. It's not like all the jounin guard Konoha 24/7, that's hilarious and not true at all. Itachi and Shisui along with top sharingen users would have easily handled jounins at guard posts and killed the elders, Danzo, and incapacitated Hizurn had they attacked suddenly and in numbers. Remember the element of surprise here.
 

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Some times this base wants me to cry out loud. A coup is a secret over-throw of the government, note the word secret? If secrecy was kept and Itachi had not rated out his own clan like an idiot, the coup would've been 100% successful because it had the element of surprise on its side. It's not like all the jounin guard Konoha 24/7, that's hilarious and not true at all. Itachi and Shisui along with top sharingen users would have easily handled jounins at guard posts and killed the elders, Danzo, and incapacitated Hizurn had they attacked suddenly and in numbers. Remember the element of surprise here.

That has been proven not true!
Kyubi and tobi surprise was handled very very well! Sarutobi asap was ready once he knew something was wrong and so was the jonin at that time in the middle of the night off gaurd everyone was!
1st time some tried to "surprise"; Sound and sand village:
Village was on alert asap! Every joinin that could fight fought!

2nd time; 6 paths of pain:
1 turned to 6 and confused them and they still was able to fight all 6 killing/harming 2 paths (no matter if they weren't that strong)

my point is, they have Safegaurds in place to make sure a war or invasion cannot happen and take them by total surprised! All the villages know to be prepared for anything! Although the uchihas might of been able to cause havoc for a short period of time, ultimately the entire village will rise and defeat the uchihas!
1. Not all uchihas had sharinagan let alone 3 tomoe and MS!
2. Sarutobi has that glass ball that he sees everything in the village with!
 

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^ You cannot compare the infiltration of ninjas with the loud, and monstrous entry of Kyuubi. The whole village probably woke up screaming at its roars. This is not even a comparable scenario. Think of it this way; Itachi, Fugaku, Shusui, and any other three tomoe sharingen user who is apt at Genjutsu simply puts the jounins there under illusion by simply approaching them, as they will not be expecting that this is a coup. Only one of them can do it, in fact if he takes on a guard of no more than two ninjas at a time.
 

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You forget that the village has many sensors who can detect when many chakra signatures suddenly disappears for unknown reasons.

Then there is also the hyuuga clan. There is no way anyone will be capable of sneaking up on them and they could probably see some if the killing happening as well with the byakugan.

There is also the inuzukas who will be able to detect them with their dogs who would be on alert as well with their superior hearing and smell
 

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Nope but Nagato one shotted it which made me giggle wiggle and jiggle!
 

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Uchihas were ruthless and selfish (power hungry)

This is so funny. I like how you try to prove your point with the guy who Uchiha casted out, because they believed he was too power hungry.....
 

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^ You cannot compare the infiltration of ninjas with the loud, and monstrous entry of Kyuubi. The whole village probably woke up screaming at its roars. This is not even a comparable scenario. Think of it this way; Itachi, Fugaku, Shusui, and any other three tomoe sharingen user who is apt at Genjutsu simply puts the jounins there under illusion by simply approaching them, as they will not be expecting that this is a coup. Only one of them can do it, in fact if he takes on a guard of no more than two ninjas at a time.

What about the pain and oru sneak attacks? Dont ignor them please! haha

This is so funny. I like how you try to prove your point with the guy who Uchiha casted out, because they believed he was too power hungry.....

lmao hahahahhah whats even more funny is that you think madara uchiha was the one that said that in that post! Do you not know your manga??? That was itachi telling sasuke the uchiha past! Major fail on your end trying to sound like you know what your talking about!!! hahahahahahaha
 

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You forget that the village has many sensors who can detect when many chakra signatures suddenly disappears for unknown reasons.

Then there is also the hyuuga clan. There is no way anyone will be capable of sneaking up on them and they could probably see some if the killing happening as well with the byakugan.

There is also the inuzukas who will be able to detect them with their dogs who would be on alert as well with their superior hearing and smell

Most of you are being childish. A coup is planned by keeping everything in mind and the number of soldiers/ninjas present for guard. The uchihas were not idiots. Do you think they had not thought of any scenario and were simply going by a stupid logic of, 'hey guys, we'll attack, like tomorrow night, if we get our asses handed to us, we'll hit the drawing board, kay?'

They were planning a coup by obviously keeping every factor in check. A hyuga is only useful in this light, if he/she is even using his senses and is awake. A coup is done in a very very sudden, hard and fast manner without any suspicion, so the uchiha at the guard would initiate it first, bringing in the support groups to take out the guards to the elders quarters and the hokage room, so on and so forth. Every factor is kept in check for a coup. They were planning this for quite a while, and obviously had planned out all the possible out-comes.
 

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What about the pain and oru sneak attacks? Dont ignor them please! haha

They were military coups?
 
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