Would Rikudō Sennin be overkill on the current battlefield?

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@Blue: If Hagoromo had means of surviving or negating the Complete Jūbi's Bijū-Dama as well as it's Nature affiliated Jutsu such as Ten-Pen-Chii and have actually combat with it to the point that he was able to conduct Fūinjutsu on the entity without any recorded, notable damage----an entity wielding a profoundly dense Dōjutsu; one maintaining all the Jutsu seen and unseen within the present day Rin'negan, Sharingan and Byakugan, It's body being completely composed of the of the same material Hashirama produces as Jutsu: Mokuton but in even greater superabundance, The Progenitor of all that existis in the world being a greater threat overall than any team of modern day geniuses was triumphed by Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki yet you sincerely disbelieve he would be a sound opposition to the current Shinobi population?
Juubi's bijuu Damas that can be deflected by Jukai Kouton and by someone like Ino and Hinata i believe?

Doujutsu, are you claiming Juubi has the EMS powers and rinnegan powers? Yea his body that was bound by the Great Gates of God..

As I said, Rinnegan Obito, was gonna become the Juubi's jinchuriki if 8-tails and 9-tails had been captured... If he can do it, pretty sure RIkudou can also.

You seem to believe that Madara beating and becoming the Juubi's jinchuriki would = him beating other shinobi also.....


You never did that, he schooled you son. All you did was refute but with no clear back up. You funny King, go back to writing naruto shippuden.
Being selective like your buddy, and showing your capability of not even understanding a normal conversation about that topic.. i see.

I mean if you believe he solo'd me, why don't you give me the answer that he failed to provide and contradicted his theory with.. Since Nagato is a pure blood uzumaki due to his red hair, but his parents aren't red-haired pure uzumaki. How can he be pure blooded?

obito nor madara nor nagato are rinnegan masters...why??? because they are not the sage, it is a big misconception that u awaken the rinnegan via senju and uchiha power/dna, when that is wrong both there power originated from the sage himself he is the first he is the source, their dna is watered down 1 sided versions of him, the sage fought and beat the juubi with his own abilities he was born with...obito became the juubi jin only because of the sage's power(the rinnegan and his dna), and like i said they uchiha and senju are watered down versions of the sage...

so in other words obito had to become a lesser version of the sage to accomplish whatever he accomplished

also im not sure if he had the creation of all things jutsu before or after the splitting of the juubi but manga did say that that power was because of the rinnegan but u could be right as far as it being only done when he was the juubi jin
@Watered down versions of the Sage. Sage might have had both of their bloods doesn't mean he had all of their powers. Yes he is the stronger one.. no one is saying anything against that.

But he doesn't stand a chance against Madara/Hashirama/Hokages/Kages, without having the Juubi.....
 
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Rikudou loses if he doesn't have the Juubi..... You guys really need to stop overrating non-jin Sage..

He still had the most chakra out of ANYONE. Think about it: his mom ate the fruit. Everyone with chakra is an ancestor of his. the closer they are related, the stronger the chakra. he has much more chakra than hashi
 

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You have earned yourself a pat in the back *pats Lawd Punk on the back*
 

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He would be overkill but if itachi was revived he would even things out with his spiritual weapons
 

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He still had the most chakra out of ANYONE. Think about it: his mom ate the fruit. Everyone with chakra is an ancestor of his. the closer they are related, the stronger the chakra. he has much more chakra than hashi

@Bold, we don't know that.

Yes Rikudou was born with chakra. However, Hashirama is the only person to be born with Mokuton something that requires HUGE amounts of chakra.

Rikudou was most likely born with the Rinnegan.

And no not everyone with chakra is related to him.. He taught people around the world..
 

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Can the mods please ban KH permanently. His nonsense is giving my computer a virus.

OT: As I said, a full potential Madara is the only one who can truly fight and equal against Rikudou due to possessing all of the latter's powers, plus knowledge about everything regards the Sage. Using this knowledge in conjunction with his abilities, can arguably allow him to defeat the Sage.

-Already stated he can use the Rinnegan's full power meaning his skill and scale is equal.
-Already is on possession of Mokuton which Rikudou had.
-Already has EMS which Rikudou didn't have.
-Possession of Sage mode which Rikudou doesn't also have.

Let's not forget Gedo Mazo, and the hypes such as Madara not having a weakness and Masashi doesn't know how to beat him. A full potential Madara is undoubtedly equal to Rikudou Sennin according to feats and hype.
 

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mokotun prob came from so6p tho... we dont know but hes prob the first to make a tree house with it -_-
 

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Can the mods please ban KH permanently. His nonsense is giving my computer a virus.

OT: As I said, a full potential Madara is the only one who can truly fight and equal against Rikudou due to possessing all of the latter's powers, plus knowledge about everything regards the Sage. Using this knowledge in conjunction with his abilities, can arguably allow him to defeat the Sage.

-Already stated he can use the Rinnegan's full power meaning his skill and scale is equal.
-Already is on possession of Mokuton which Rikudou had.
-Already has EMS which Rikudou didn't have.
-Possession of Sage mode which Rikudou doesn't also have.

Let's not forget Gedo Mazo, and the hypes such as Madara not having a weakness and Masashi doesn't know how to beat him. A full potential Madara is undoubtedly equal to Rikudou Sennin according to feats and hype.

Trying to debate against KingHashirama using manga scans let alone clear cut manga facts is pointless. He's always been a troll. I dare say debate due to the fact that it's not really a debate. It's like a grown adult trying to reason with a little kid who has autism and snorts cocaine.
 

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The man you are talking about "who can create anything" is Jinchuuriki SO6P not pre-jin, he required the Creation of all things after he became tentailed jinchuuriki - thats when he created the moon/bijuus etc...

as far as pre-jin rikuudo, we know he was extremely gifted and powerful, but the only feats we really know about him is that he could use ninjutsu and somehow was able to seal jubi - but being able to seal someone/something is not the same as defeating it/him, we dont know for sure how he accomplished this feat but it doesnt automatically guarantee his invincibility - for a simple reason >> we have no clue what actually happened or how he did it

now Jinchuuriki SO6P is another story, we know he was called a god, created the moon, was able to use creation of all things, ninjutsu negation, bijuu creation, complete elemental combinations etc....

so at the very least pre-jin rikuudo was far less powerful than post jin, meaning he was limited >> meaning he can be killed.

first of all he wasn't a Jinchuuriki when he created the moon.

second you talk from a very weird angle, how the hell did he seal the Juubi without a fight ?? what kind of offensive sealing jutsu can seal a COMPLETE juubi that is fighting back ?? this is like clinging to a very small possibility/clinging to the fact that it wasn't shown, the only question i have is why ?? why are you clinging to that very small possibility ??

and third the fact that he even attempted to separate the beast speaks volumes about the Sage's understanding of jutsu/chakra since Obito only demonstrated the ability to cancel jutsu/shoot TBB's (no creation of all thing/no izanagi/no nothing) which can only mean that the Sage was a freak to begin with.

i don't even know why people try as hard as they can to bring the legend of the series down and try to make him simple ................. taking down a complete destroyer of worlds is not the feat of a simple Shinobi U_U

all we have seen so far from the rest was putting the Juubi back together (easy task, you just need the right ingredients and a vessel/nothing special) but, to no one came close to what the Sage did.

and you still didn't tell me how was i being narrow minded lol ??
 
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Juubi's bijuu Damas that can be deflected by Jukai Kouton and by someone like Ino and Hinata i believe?

Doujutsu, are you claiming Juubi has the EMS powers and rinnegan powers? Yea his body that was bound by the Great Gates of God..

As I said, Rinnegan Obito, was gonna become the Juubi's jinchuriki if 8-tails and 9-tails had been captured... If he can do it, pretty sure RIkudou can also.

You seem to believe that Madara beating and becoming the Juubi's jinchuriki would = him beating other shinobi also.....



Being selective like your buddy, and showing your capability of not even understanding a normal conversation about that topic.. i see.

I mean if you believe he solo'd me, why don't you give me the answer that he failed to provide and contradicted his theory with.. Since Nagato is a pure blood uzumaki due to his red hair, but his parents aren't red-haired pure uzumaki. How can he be pure blooded?


@Watered down versions of the Sage. Sage might have had both of their bloods doesn't mean he had all of their powers. Yes he is the stronger one.. no one is saying anything against that.

But he doesn't stand a chance against Madara/Hashirama/Hokages/Kages, without having the Juubi.....

You are basing yourself due to the color palettes that were chosen in the anime. In the manga you obviously dont see their hair in color. Nagato has red hair but in the manga its black, just like both his parents, so going by that logic both his parents had red hair making them uzumaki, and since there woudnt be a reason to hide nagato's surname, uzumaki came from his fathers surname, and his mother is also from that clan. Therefore your question has been answered and its irrelevant. There you go. /post
 

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Anyone who thinks that the current players are even a challenge to the Sage, even at the same time, are simply fooling themselves. Not Hashirama, not Madara, not Naruto, no one. He wipes them all out easily.
 
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