Would Jiraya have received the orochimaru treatment from Itachi

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its pretty wild to assume a sealing jutsu has anything to do with breaking a genjutsu. Jiraiya was immobile when he used that stomach jutsu, considering that itachi could have used amaterasu and end him right on the spot is proof enough he underestimated them. And he clearly stares into itachi's eyes.

I'm Just saying if Jiraya Could Have Sealed A High Level Jutsu Such as Amaterasu, then that is proof that he know's what he is doing, so Why can't he disrupt a Genjutsu, Knowing the Knowledge he has, and the experience.
He is a Sannin after all.
 

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I'm Just saying if Jiraya Could Have Sealed A High Level Jutsu Such as Amaterasu, then that is proof that he know's what he is doing, so Why can't he disrupt a Genjutsu, Knowing the Knowledge he has, and the experience.
He is a Sannin after all.
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If he tries to he will lose a hand.

and nice glow by the way.
 

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If he tries to he will lose a hand.

and nice glow by the way.

Hey, its your Opinion that he will "loose a hand."
You Are clearly Underestimating him,
A Sannin with Years of Experience.
And its My opinion that he will Disrupt Itachi's genjutsu.
And the Glow is fixed Now
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Hey, its your Opinion that he will "loose a hand."
You Are clearly Underestimating him,
A Sannin with Years of Experience.
And its My opinion that he will Disrupt Itachi's genjutsu.
And the Glow is fixed Now
:p

I'm not even going to adress Itachi is a higher tier than all the sannin indivudually.
 

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I'm not even going to adress Itachi is a higher tier than all the sannin indivudually.

Itachi and Jiraya are tied for the Most Stats.
And it is your Opinion that Itachi is a higher tier than all the Sannin.
 

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I believe Jiriaya is stronger than itachi .
Just putting my opinion out there, so don't argue back to me about it
 

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Because Jiraya Knows How Genjutsu Works.he knows how to deal with it
He Knows how to dispel it.
And he Knows Itachi too, because he has been travelling the world.

do you actually believe that nonsense? So many people know about genjutsu. What happened to them when they looked at itachi?

Even kakashi, who has a sharingan which makes him less susceptible to genjutsu, got trapped so easily.
Naruto's been trapped and he has Kurama.
No one's dodged itachi's genjutsu - tsukuyomi or not.
Deidara trained one of his eyes to TRY to stand up against itachi's genjutsu.
EVEN kabuto, a guy who closed his eyes and had other senses activated basically got trapped into a genjutsu of itachi - izanami is genjutsu.

Stop fanboy jiraiya
 

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I think you underestimate that Sannin.
Jiraya is a Legendary ninja for a reason you know.
i dont underesatimate jiraiya but i think in that situation itachi would have left jiraiya in the infirmary..lol..just me??
but i go back to the OP and see that Jiraiya was staring right at Itachi with his Sharingan on, and maybe
Itachi WAS Jiraiya's informant and trusted not to genjutsu Jman, but maybe Itachi just didnt Genjutsu him because he might have to stand still while he performs it which opens him up for attack from Sasuke or Naruto and also that would make it too easy for Kisame to capture the (tails jinchuriki)
 

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orochimaru may be a bit smarter than jiraiya, but like deidara he's incredibly arrogant whereas jiraiya is much more cautious and strategic. if itachi had attempted a genjutsu on jiraiya it's far from an instant win for starters, he had his toad to defend him until he breaks out, and secondly itachi would have been digested and turned into toad crap. thirdly, jiraiya's a big user of toad shadow manipulations and bunshin so it's quite easy for him to evade genjutsu and use it to his advantage like kakashi did.
 

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orochimaru may be a bit smarter than jiraiya, but like deidara he's incredibly arrogant whereas jiraiya is much more cautious and strategic. if itachi had attempted a genjutsu on jiraiya it's far from an instant win for starters, he had his toad to defend him until he breaks out, and secondly itachi would have been digested and turned into toad crap. thirdly, jiraiya's a big user of toad shadow manipulations and bunshin so it's quite easy for him to evade genjutsu and use it to his advantage like kakashi did.
itachi wouldnt have been turned into toad crap becaus ejiraiya didnt know about amateratsu yet until itachi broke out of the toad
Itachi solos

ok i get that but not easy although i see where you would say Itachi solos Itachi solos
 

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do you actually believe that nonsense? So many people know about genjutsu. What happened to them when they looked at itachi?

Even kakashi, who has a sharingan which makes him less susceptible to genjutsu, got trapped so easily.
Naruto's been trapped and he has Kurama.
No one's dodged itachi's genjutsu - tsukuyomi or not.
Deidara trained one of his eyes to TRY to stand up against itachi's genjutsu.
EVEN kabuto, a guy who closed his eyes and had other senses activated basically got trapped into a genjutsu of itachi - izanami is genjutsu.

Stop fanboy jiraiya

First of all. You Being a newbie, have no right to Call me a Fanboy.
I'm Just Backing up Jiraya. That does not Make me a fanboy! The word fanboy is seriously Overused.

And the Difference between all these People and Jiraya, is that Jiraya has Tons of experience.
And Experience counts, if you didn't notice.
EVERY JUTSU HAS A WEAKNESS.
And Manga states that a Genjutsu can be overcome by Disrupting one's chakra, and Jiraya knows how to do that.
The Only Genjutsu Jiraya would not be able to counter is Tsukuyomi
Stop Fanboying Itachi.
 

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i dont underesatimate jiraiya but i think in that situation itachi would have left jiraiya in the infirmary..lol..just me??
but i go back to the OP and see that Jiraiya was staring right at Itachi with his Sharingan on, and maybe
Itachi WAS Jiraiya's informant and trusted not to genjutsu Jman, but maybe Itachi just didnt Genjutsu him because he might have to stand still while he performs it which opens him up for attack from Sasuke or Naruto and also that would make it too easy for Kisame to capture the (tails jinchuriki)

No, I think jiraiya just didn't want to start a fight with jiraiya. Jiraiya has hype and itachi is smart. Itachi doesn't go sacrificing himself like a fool.

If he hears "Sakura is a god! she blah blah! she's undefeated", itachi would take care to attack her because itachi doesn't like prolonged fights (low stamina), he's half blind (Makes him more vulnerable) and he just doesn't like killing people. Most people itachi take out is with genjutsu. He doesn't even kill except during the uchiha massacre.

One more point: If itachi genjutsu'd jiraiya, there'd be nothing anyone could do. All that would happen is jiraiya falling to the ground after 2 seconds (in real time) after having gone through 2 days of torment (genjutsu time). Itachi wouldn't be opened at all.
 

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Itachi was just 11 years old when he Orochimaru. Jiraiya was only at their confrontation. Based on what he's capable of, Itachi could've killed him right there in that hallway if he had reason too.
 

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No, I think jiraiya just didn't want to start a fight with jiraiya. Jiraiya has hype and itachi is smart. Itachi doesn't go sacrificing himself like a fool.

If he hears "Sakura is a god! she blah blah! she's undefeated", itachi would take care to attack her because itachi doesn't like prolonged fights (low stamina), he's half blind (Makes him more vulnerable) and he just doesn't like killing people. Most people itachi take out is with genjutsu. He doesn't even kill except during the uchiha massacre.

One more point: If itachi genjutsu'd jiraiya, there'd be nothing anyone could do. All that would happen is jiraiya falling to the ground after 2 seconds (in real time) after having gone through 2 days of torment (genjutsu time). Itachi wouldn't be opened at all.

oh yeah i forgot about that tsukunomi time rule, yeah that would have happend and naruto would have been in big trouble
itachi is a peaceful Akuma, Sesshomaru kinda, he has what it takes to kill but he doesnt like to
 

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No, I think jiraiya just didn't want to start a fight with jiraiya. Jiraiya has hype and itachi is smart. Itachi doesn't go sacrificing himself like a fool.

If he hears "Sakura is a god! she blah blah! she's undefeated", itachi would take care to attack her because itachi doesn't like prolonged fights (low stamina), he's half blind (Makes him more vulnerable) and he just doesn't like killing people. Most people itachi take out is with genjutsu. He doesn't even kill except during the uchiha massacre.

One more point: If itachi genjutsu'd jiraiya, there'd be nothing anyone could do. All that would happen is jiraiya falling to the ground after 2 seconds (in real time) after having gone through 2 days of torment (genjutsu time). Itachi wouldn't be opened at all.

I was talking about Normal Genjutsu.
Jiraya can break that!
But he cannot Break Tsukuyomi, because According to the manga, Only an Uchiha can Break that i believe! Besides Itachi does not Use Tsukuyomi A lot, i believe he used it Twice in the day, so he didn't have the stamina to keep up
 

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First of all. You Being a newbie, have no right to Call me a Fanboy.
I'm Just Backing up Jiraya. That does not Make me a fanboy! The word fanboy is seriously Overused.

And the Difference between all these People and Jiraya, is that Jiraya has Tons of experience.
And Experience counts, if you didn't notice.
EVERY JUTSU HAS A WEAKNESS.
And Manga states that a Genjutsu can be overcome by Disrupting one's chakra, and Jiraya knows how to do that.
The Only Genjutsu Jiraya would not be able to counter is Tsukuyomi
Stop Fanboying Itachi.

What does being new have to do with spotting a fanboy? Is there a fanboy club? If you act like one and sound like one, then you probably are.

This is about Itachi's genjutsu up against jiraiya. Jiraiya will not break that. No way in hell jiraiya breaks it. Most people don't even know they're under itachi's genjutsu until after some time.

This isn't Itachi vs Jiraiya where jiraiya will have a chance. Sure jiraiya is better than itachi at taijutsu and has some wicked ninjutsu and sage mode, but what does that help against itachi's genjutsu? One of the best ways for jiraiya to probably break itachi's genjutsu is with sage mode. When will he get time to go into that mode? He takes like 20 minutes.

Sasuke walked up to itachi (sasuke v itachi final battle), he was trapped into genjutsu before he even knew it.

I like itachi, yes. Am i an itachi fanboy? Maybe. But the fact is, itachi's genjutsu is in another class to everyone else's.
Because jiraiya can break kuranai's genjutsu, or sasuke's genjutsu means nothing. That's like him dodging a punch from rock lee (no gates), whereas breaking itachi's genjutsu is like trying to dodge a V2 punch from Ay.
 

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Jiraya was one of the legendry sannins and he was well aware of Itachi's capabilities.He would have already came out with a way of handling the genjutsu.If he can teach Naruto,how to handle genjutsu during his three years training would'nt he be proficient in it himself.He would definatly had found out a better way than Kai.
 
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