Worst Kage Reign known...

[blackstar9]

I agree with the o.p. ! If the 3rd had eliminated Oro when he found out about his experiments, the destruction of the leaf by the sand and sound never happens . If he puts danzo in his place maybe the uchiha massacre could have been prevented . Danzo seemed to have equal say in matters ! but hiruzen was hokage.

 

[KingGolDragon]

In red.

Also responsible for: Preventing a civil war and a world war through the Uchiha Massacre, thereby saving hundreds of thousands of lives.

Edit: Kabuto was all Orochimaru's fault.

Nagato : Danzo and Hanzo were allies

Sasuke : Danzo started the uchiha massacre. Itachi was just Forced to kill.

Kabuto : Danzo had killed Kabuto's mother and forced her and kabuto to join the root.

Pein invasion : He said, there must be sacrifices, for him to be hokage. He could have stopped Pain with the help of Tsunade. Instead he was selfish for power.

Sand invasion arc: "He wasn't introduced".. cause he didn't anything in the arc.. thats why he wasn't introduced.. lmao. So your saying he can't come help out the Hokage?? instead he sent his underlings... shame

Uchiha massacre : It was up to Danzo to make war.. and stop war. He had already took shishui's eye... thats itself is a big statement.

 

[HiddenSound]

Nagato : Danzo and Hanzo were allies

Sasuke : Danzo started the uchiha massacre. Itachi was just Forced to kill. And...? Danzo wanted Sasuke dead.

Kabuto : Danzo had killed Kabuto's mother and forced her and kabuto to join the root. Same with Sasuke. If Danzo had his way then Kabuto would've died.

Pein invasion : He said, there must be sacrifices, for him to be hokage. He could have stopped Pain with the help of Tsunade. Instead he was selfish for power.

Sand invasion arc: "He wasn't introduced".. cause he didn't anything in the arc.. thats why he wasn't introduced.. lmao. So your saying he can't come help out the Hokage?? instead he sent his underlings... shame

Uchiha massacre : It was up to Danzo to make war.. and stop war. He had already took shishui's eye... thats itself is a big statement.
"Oh, some random Uchiha has the most powerful Genjutsu in existence? Oh, the Uchiha are currently planning a coup? Well I better hope that Uchiha doesn't side with his clan." Danzo doesn't think like that.

In red.
Danzo believed that the Third and Tsunade's policies were soft. I'm not going to deny that Danzo should've helped out in the Oto/Suna Invasion. But still, not all of Danzo's actions can be justified. Why? Because he was a true ninja. Always doing the dirty work from behind the scenes. All for the betterment (or what he believed as betterment) for Konoha. I believe most of Danzo's actions were justified. And besides, without people like Danzo around nations would crumble.

 

[blackbird31468]

Sarutobi Hiruzen.. the third hokage. OFFICIALLY had the worst Reign after he cameback. Most of you fans might be going " No he didn't he was the strongest". Well that was during his first reign. Sarutobi LET the counsel take control of the Gov. to much. Which led to the likes of Danzo. He let Danzo roam free...and let him do w.e he wants. ALL that occurred under his reign. And not to mention the UCHIHA MASSACRE. smh. In stability in the Village was all time high when he cameback as a Hokage. Just sad sad sad reign.

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Danzo wasn't even involved in the series until Tsunade was Hokage and there was peace in the leaf village until Orochimaru attacked, which he also stopped.
I think the worst kage rein was the 4th Mizukage's. I know he was being controlled, but he he allowed that happen.

 

[KingGolDragon]

In red.
Danzo believed that the Third and Tsunade's policies were soft. I'm not going to deny that Danzo should've helped out in the Oto/Suna Invasion. But still, not all of Danzo's actions can be justified. Why? Because he was a true ninja. Always doing the dirty work from behind the scenes. All for the betterment (or what he believed as betterment) for Konoha. I believe most of Danzo's actions were justified. And besides, without people like Danzo around, nations would crumble.

Sasuke : Itachi had to pick a choice.. to save 1 uchiha or to get killed with the Entire clan.. Uchiha were gonna be killed whether there was a war or not..

Kabuto: Danzo started it.. Kabuto did his best to survive. The world doesn't revolve around Danzo.


Danzo might be a "true ninja" (even though i don't see it). But he did not follow the legacy of the First hokage.. the legacy known as Will Of Fire. So i can kill a whole state because they were trying to go against me or I saw them as a threat.. and thats for the betterment? lmaoo no.


Without People Like Danzo Konoha would have Credibility to what it stands for.. Its without people like Tobirama and Hashirama and Minato that the Nations would crumble.



....... Shisui was a konoha citizen........ I hope you do realize Uchiha are more rightful citizens then Danzo. I hope you do know that.

 

[HiddenSound]

Sasuke : Itachi had to pick a choice.. to save 1 uchiha or to get killed with the Entire clan.. Uchiha were gonna be killed whether there was a war or not..

Kabuto: Danzo started it.. Kabuto did his best to survive. The world doesn't revolve around Danzo.


Danzo might be a "true ninja" (even though i don't see it). But he did not follow the legacy of the First hokage.. the legacy known as Will Of Fire. So i can kill a whole state because they were trying to go against me or I saw them as a threat.. and thats for the betterment? lmaoo no.


Without People Like Danzo Konoha would have Credibility to what it stands for.. Its without people like Tobirama and Hashirama and Minato that the Nations would crumble.



....... Shisui was a konoha citizen........ I hope you do realize Uchiha are more rightful citizens then Danzo. I hope you do know that.

Guess not.
Danzo sent Itachi to kill every Uchiha, Itachi spared Sasuke when Danzo wanted him dead. He sent Orochimaru to kill Kabuto, but Orochimaru spared him instead. Someone must always be there to do the dirty work. That was Danzo's job.
This boils down to "agree to disagree".

 

[6ari8]

Didn't read due to its stupidity, that's your opinion nonetheless

The bloody mist is officially the worst reign, the 4th Mizukage

maybe if the title of your thread was the 2nd reign, i would actually acknowledge it

This +1

 

[KingGolDragon]

Guess not.
Danzo sent Itachi to kill every Uchiha, Itachi spared Sasuke when Danzo wanted him dead. He sent Orochimaru to kill Kabuto, but Orochimaru spared him instead. Someone must always be there to do the dirty work. That was Danzo's job.
This boils down to "agree to disagree".

Err thats what everyone else thought.. Until Itachi's flashback.. Where it clearly shows Danzo making a deal with Itachi.. That he will spare his brother.. Even though Danzo wanted him dead.. It was still part of the deal.

He sent Oro to kill Kabuto...But orochimaru was the third good thing happened to Kabuto's life.....


There needs to be no dirty work.. It is we the people who create the dirty work. Dirty work is not the Senju way , Aka, It is not the Will of Fire way or Hashirama's way.

 

[HiddenSound]

Err thats what everyone else thought.. Until Itachi's flashback.. Where it clearly shows Danzo making a deal with Itachi.. That he will spare his brother.. Even though Danzo wanted him dead.. It was still part of the deal.
It was either that, or civil war then world war, or sparing Sasuke. Itachi could've killed Sasuke easily, but he didn't. Sasuke is all Itachi''s fault either way look at it.
He sent Oro to kill Kabuto...But orochimaru was the third good thing happened to Kabuto's life.....
lol more like the worst thing that happened to him. Orochimaru totally corrupted him.

There needs to be no dirty work.. It is we the people who create the dirty work. Dirty work is not the Senju way , Aka, It is not the Will of Fire way or Hashirama's way.

I don't care if dirty work is not Hashirama's way. You know who else was employing dirty work, trying to gain the upper hand over Konoha? Suna, Iwa, and Kumo. Danzo's work prevented that.
If humanity was all lovey-dovey and kind to eachother then there would be no need for dirty work. Guess what we're not. Lovey-dovey and kind to eachother.

 

[Phoenix110]

It's quite unfair to say that hiruzen's reign was the worst ever.The only fault i see in it is the fact that he allowed to much to go out of control like letting oro go scot free etc,apart from that he did his best to avoid war that would bring suffering to konoha

 

[gordo1]

Yagura. /thread

 

[Simplified]

Didn't read.

It was stated by the elders of Konoha that when Hiruzen and Danzo ran things, the leaf was the most peaceful, ever. (Until Oro attacked) bloody mist was the worst.

 

[yondaimeminato]

I completely agree with you. The third hokage let orochimaru go when he could have stopped him. The third hokage let the elders and danzou make wrong decisions. Tsunade never let the elders or danzou do what they wanted. It was thanks to the influence of yondaime minato that third war stopped. He wasn't able to find an alternative solution to the uchiha massacre in time. This is far too many failures for a hokage.

However, the hokage who made the worst mistake in naruto verse is the first hokage (harishima). He was so genius and said "let me share the tail demons to the other village so it can be balanced and treat them as tools". The good descendant of the sage of the six path treated the tail demons as tools. No wonder the tail demon started hating humans. The tail demons are ranked by their tails, there is no balance in that. One tail demon is weaker than two tail demon. If konoha was going to stay with the most powerful tail demon among the tail demons, how is this balance? Now that each village had a taste of having the power of the tail demons in their power, they wanted more tail demons in their possession. Most of the ninja wars were attempts of taking control of the tail demons. Rather than creating balance, he caused chaos.

 

[GreenV]

And maybe if you knew that the 4th mizukage was being controlled you would know why its not the Number 1 worst reign.. lmao.

Fate chose Hiruzen to deal with those elders and Uchiha Massacre/Hyuuga incident.

Tobi/Yagura's reign was the worst known.

/end thread.

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

Sarutobi Hiruzen.. the third hokage. OFFICIALLY had the worst Reign after he cameback. Most of you fans might be going " No he didn't he was the strongest". Well that was during his first reign. Sarutobi LET the counsel take control of the Gov. to much. Which led to the likes of Danzo. He let Danzo roam free...and let him do w.e he wants. ALL that occurred under his reign. And not to mention the UCHIHA MASSACRE. smh. In stability in the Village was all time high when he cameback as a Hokage. Just sad sad sad reign.

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YOU REALLY MADE a thread.......FOR THIS???

 

[killerman82]

u sir need a flame jacket because ur about to get alot of hiruzen fans burn ur ass ... - takes a seat-

lol

 

[Omnislash X SageMode]

So that makes the countless death matches and other cruel proceedings ok ?

No its officially the worst reign, though it not Yagura's fault

Just because he was being controlled doesn't mean that the reign is made void or didn't exist at all

But Knight....hiruzens term as a kage during the uchiha massacre kinda does make him look somewhat powerless to the whole situation at the time...danzo&elders did seem to make most of the decisions and really the kage had nothing he could do to protect the uchiha's....in MY opinion at least thats how i see it..i know there could be worse....but that kage reign is having its repercussions in the manga now as we speak..:shrug:

 

[KenUchiha]

it's Tsunade. . .she never has a strong powers

 

[Sir Blades]

The fourth mizukages reign was the worst, bloody mist, and he was being controlled, which is a recipe for disaster.

 

[KingGolDragon]

I completely agree with you. The third hokage let orochimaru go when he could have stopped him. The third hokage let the elders and danzou make wrong decisions. Tsunade never let the elders or danzou do what they wanted. It was thanks to the influence of yondaime minato that third war stopped. He wasn't able to find an alternative solution to the uchiha massacre in time. This is far too many failures for a hokage.

However, the hokage who made the worst mistake in naruto verse is the first hokage (harishima). He was so genius and said "let me share the tail demons to the other village so it can be balanced and treat them as tools". The good descendant of the sage of the six path treated the tail demons as tools. No wonder the tail demon started hating humans. The tail demons are ranked by their tails, there is no balance in that. One tail demon is weaker than two tail demon. If konoha was going to stay with the most powerful tail demon among the tail demons, how is this balance? Now that each village had a taste of having the power of the tail demons in their power, they wanted more tail demons in their possession. Most of the ninja wars were attempts of taking control of the tail demons. Rather than creating balance, he caused chaos.

Glad you agree, with me on Sarutobi.

Handing out tailed beasts was not a mistake.. but to equalize world power. To make sure Konoha isn't the Dominant one.. That was one step closer to "True peace" and it was the senju way. How hashirama treated the Tailed beast is still unkown, so i can't make remarks about that. Tail demons are ranked by their tails.. But you have to realize Konoha only had 1.. While many others had more then 1. And, It was the people who used the Tailed beasts for power that were wrong... I can basically go back to SO6P on this. Him picking the younger son can be a mistake also.. But its not. Same with Hashirama. Hashirama did what was best. Its the people who didn't see it that way, that led the war.

I don't care if dirty work is not Hashirama's way. You know who else was employing dirty work, trying to gain the upper hand over Konoha? Suna, Iwa, and Kumo. Danzo's work prevented that.
If humanity was all lovey-dovey and kind to eachother then there would be no need for dirty work. Guess what we're not. Lovey-dovey and kind to eachother.

No.. Sarutobi saw another choice...The other 2 geezers and Danzo didn't even think it out.. and try to hear out the uchiha.. Instead they just named them Traitors right on the spot.. Which is a dumb and stupid thing.. Only reasonable guy there was Sarutobi, who picked to negotiate with the Uchiha. Instead of acting like a complete dumbass and assuming they were gonna attack.


Danzo corrupted Kabuto long time ago.. Lmao. Oro actually gave Kabuto a home.. what every kid desires. =]


Fire vs fire = More fire. Dirty work vs Dirty work = more Dirty work. why? If you do something dirty.. you needa do more dirty work to hide that dirty thing you did. it makes a cycle.