Why Tobi can be VERY efficient with the Rinnegan

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Tobi has the potential to be the best Rinnegan user we have ever seen.

One of this thread's basis is Tobi claiming that the Rinnegan was already his. That would mean that Tobi already has some experience in using the Rinnegan.

The other basis is that Tobi can use the Rinnegan along with his other techniques, and become pretty much unbeatable.

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First of all, here's further proof that Tobi had the Rinnegan before:

-Its been shown that when implanting an eye that someone has never used before, they need to rest for a few days-weeks. Such as when Tobi implanted Itachi's eyes into Sasuke. Sasuke had to wait a few weeks before removing the cloth around his eyes.

-Tobi implanted the Rinnegan right after getting it, and he didn't need to rest at all or anything like that. He just started using it right away. And he's apparently good with the Rinnegan, noted when Naruto claimed that Tobi's chakra rods were much more powerful compared to Nagato's.

-Anyway, it should be known that Tobi can use all Rinnegan techniques, shown with his knowledge and experience with the Rinnegan already.

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Anyways, here's why Tobi can be extremely good and efficient in using the Rinnegan:

-His techniques are probably on a larger scale than Nagato's. If his chakra rods have been noted to be stronger than Nagato's, than his other Rinnegan techniques are probably stronger too. He also seems to have an almost endless supply of chakra, giving him an advantage.

-He can apparently use Gedo Mazo better. This is obviously partly due to the Bijuus being sealed inside Gedo Mazo, therefore Gedo Mazo not requiring any of Tobi's chakra. But even then, Nagato never seemingly attempted to use Gedo Mazo in battle, even when some of the Bijuus were sealed within it. This shows that either Nagato wasn't confident in his control over Gedo Mazo, or because he didn't have enough chakra to control it. Being able to control Gedo Mazo with 7 Bijuus in it flawlessly gives Tobi a huge advantage in his Rinnegan use already.

-His chakra drain seems to be minimal when using the Rinnegan. He's been controlling six Bijuus yet has shown no sign of chakra drain or fatigue during the battle against Naruto and co. And it can be noted that he's been keeping Gedo Mazo under his control at the same time. Nagato was coughing blood while his paths were fighting Naruto, while Tobi has been standing there without any signs of tiring. His minimal chakra drain can possibly be attributed to Tobi apparently being an original Rinnegan user, unlike Nagato.

-Unlike Nagato, Tobi doesn't lack mobility. One of Nagato's weaknesses, as stated by Kabuto, was his lack of mobility. This is probably due to Gedo Mazo impaling Nagato in his early teens. But even while immobile, Nagato was immensely destructive with the Rinnegan. Tobi can use the Rinnegan techs on an even larger scale (look above) and he isn't lacking in mobility, therefore making him a very powerful Rinnegan user.

-Lastly, he can use his Intangiblity hand-in-hand with his Rinnegan techniques, making him practically invincible. Just think about it. He can pretty much spam Shinra Tensei. Whenever he has to cool down for 5 seconds, which can easily be exploited by a faster character like Naruto, he can simply go intangible. This pretty much makes him completely untouchable. And he can use his other Rinnegan techniques along with his intangibility, making him practically invincible. And if his intangiblity ever is exploited, he can use the Preta Path to stop any attack.


He has mobility, unlike Nagato, and intangibility, unlike Madara and Nagato, giving him a huge advantage with the Rinnegan.
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So yeah. Tobi has the opportunity to be extremely powerful in using the Rinnegan, shown by what I've stated above. He can be and probably is better with the Rinnegan compared to Nagato. Tobi can be better with Nagato and Madara due to his intangibility patching up any of the Rinnegan's weaknesses.

Feel free to agree, disagree, and discuss this down below.
 
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Yea tobi goin to be good with it.
Madara
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Nagato

Tobi can be better with it than Madara due to his intangibility patching up any of the Rinnegan's weaknesses.
 

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tobi should be one of the best at using the rinnegan and the only one being better is madara at this point.
 

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But one thing, if Tobi really gave Nagato the rinnegan then he would have known and also had to rest which he didn't. Soo maybe sharingan and rinnegan differ in that ability
 

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tobi should be one of the best at using the rinnegan and the only one being better is madara at this point.

Look at my other post. Tobi's intangbility hand in hand with the Rinnegan makes him better than Madara with it.

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But one thing, if Tobi really gave Nagato the rinnegan then he would have known and also had to rest which he didn't. Soo maybe sharingan and rinnegan differ in that ability

Hmm...that's true. But Nagato didn't seem to remember any of his actions during the time he awakened the Rinnegan. And I think he probably used his first Rinnegan techs way later.
 

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TEXTWALL omg -.-
Best user is Madara because of KG, he awakened rinnegan. Tobi just said i gave him. So he didnt say i awake my rinnegan, just says i gave him so? He could take from madara like how he taked nagato's rinnegan too. There no proof Tobi is best user.
 

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Wtf. Some of you people are too smart. I swear I thought I knew a lot about Naruto before I joined NB. You guys make me feel like a noob when it comes to Naruto. rep+
 

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TEXTWALL omg -.-
Best user is Madara because of KG, he awakened rinnegan. Tobi just said i gave him. So he didnt say i awake my rinnegan, just says i gave him so? He could take from madara like how he taked nagato's rinnegan too. There no proof Tobi is best user.

Did you even read my post? -__-

Tobi can be the best with the Rinnegan due to his intangibility. Using it along side the Rinnegan makes him practically invincible.
 

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The rinnegan is stupidly OP, anyone with enough chakra to use it is efficient with it. Honestly though jutsu aren't Tobi's style - the rinnegan was purely to control the six bijuu paths. He'll always rely on using gejutsu / warping to win his fights, more than likely we'll see more gedo maza from him as well.
 

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The rinnegan is stupidly OP, anyone with enough chakra to use it is efficient with it. Honestly though jutsu aren't Tobi's style - the rinnegan was purely to control the six bijuu paths. He'll always rely on using gejutsu / warping to win his fights, more than likely we'll see more gedo maza from him as well.

I think he'll still use the other Rinnegan techniques though.

He has mobility, unlike Nagato, and intangibility, unlike Madara, giving him a huge advantage with the Rinnegan.
 

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I think he'll still use the other Rinnegan techniques though.

He has mobility, unlike Nagato, and intangibility, unlike Madara, giving him a huge advantage with the Rinnegan.

Madara can't be killed and recovers from all wounds within seconds - how is that not better than intangibility? He can spam suicidal techniques if he wants, Tobi has both chakra limits and multiple flaws with his jutsu. In terms of using the rinnegan;

Madara > Nagato > Tobi.


Madara for his edo and just natural skill with the rinnegan, Nagato for his HUGE chakra reserves and 30+ years of experience with them, and Tobi merely has them. That's not to say Tobi's bad with them but he lacks the chakra and practice to make them useful beyond simply using the six paths for puppets.
 
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Yea, i think Tobi will be more efficent with it as well. and so will Sasuke. xd
 

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nope madara is the best rinnegan user alive
1.madara
2.tobi
3.nagato

but we all know that so6p is the best when it come to that eye :p
 

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Madara can't be killed and recovers from all wounds within seconds - how is that not better than intangibility? He can spam suicidal techniques if he wants, Tobi has both chakra limits and multiple flaws with his jutsu. In terms of using the rinnegan;

Madara > Nagato > Tobi.


Madara for his edo and just natural skill with the rinnegan, Nagato for his HUGE chakra reserves and 30+ years of experience with them, and Tobi merely has them. That's not to say Tobi's bad with them but he lacks the chakra and practice to make them useful beyond simply using the six paths for puppets.

I'd say that Edo Madara = Tobi in use because immortality and intangibility both patch up any flaws.

As for Nagato, I'd say that Tobi has higher chakra reserves than him. And he's had the Rinnegan before, thus he also has experience with it. I'd say he's better than Nagato with the Rinnegan for sure, for my reasons above. One being Nagato lacking mobility.


nope madara is the best rinnegan user alive
1.madara
2.tobi
3.nagato

but we all know that so6p is the best when it come to that eye :p

Tobi has more Rinnegan feats than Madara.
 

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1.Tobi cannot use rinnegan techniques through the paths as they would consume to much chakra
2.Nagato used Gedo mazo from miles away to deal beast he also used it vs Hanzo before syncing.He also has done everything Tobi has done with gedo and more including tthe soul dragon technique
3.The space time façade that its invincible is false as kishi clearly stated in the Manga that pain was the strongest in the aksatuki and not s/t tobi
 

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all true he is very skilled with it but he prob wont use it only if hes against naruto and bee in bijuu mode
 

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I think he'll still use the other Rinnegan techniques though.

He has mobility, unlike Nagato, and intangibility, unlike Madara, giving him a huge advantage with the Rinnegan.

we don`t necessarily know all of Madara`s abilities... wasn`t there a cell at where Tobi was actually admiring and acknowledging Madara as the absolute best besides Hashirama?

when Madara was awakened from the resurrection tech. he immediately started dominating... and yes Tobi does have that intangibility, but Madara has Susanoo
 

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1.Tobi cannot use rinnegan techniques through the paths as they would consume to much chakra
2.Nagato used Gedo mazo from miles away to deal beast he also used it vs Hanzo before syncing.He also has done everything Tobi has done with gedo and more including tthe soul dragon technique
3.The space time façade that its invincible is false as kishi clearly stated in the Manga that pain was the strongest in the aksatuki and not s/t tobi

S/T Tobi along with the Rinnegan makes him the strongest.


we don`t necessarily know all of Madara`s abilities... wasn`t there a cell at where Tobi was actually admiring and acknowledging Madara as the absolute best besides Hashirama?

when Madara was awakened from the resurrection tech. he immediately started dominating... and yes Tobi does have that intangibility, but Madara has Susanoo

Susanoo can be destroyed, intangibility can't.
 
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