Why Madara is a better Mastermind than Aizen.

[Senju Bean]

Aizen basically controlled Ichigos life from *****, he knew he ever battle and every step. Just remember how old Aizen is. Not even Gotei 13 had no suspicions about him before he was finally considered a "villan" . How do you think Ichigo gained hollowfication? he done this to the main character.

And Aizen got foiled by his own creation.

Madara's downfall is not going to be from any of his pawns, including Obito.

 

[TheTailedSage]

And Aizen got foiled by his own creation.

Madara's downfall is not going to be from any of his pawns, including Obito.

If it wasn't for the gate between both worlds Ichigo would have been toast. Its only because ichigo had time.

 

[Senju Bean]

If it wasn't for the gate between both worlds Ichigo would have been toast. Its only because ichigo had time.

One could say Aizen is stupid for planning Ichigo as a pawn.

At least Madara had fail safes on top of prefect brainwashing.

 

[warlee]

Aizen is far above madara in the planning and villianious department many loopholes in madara's plan it's not even funny. Aizen stomps and one shot many people than madara too.

 

[TheTailedSage]

One could say Aizen is stupid for planning Ichigo as a pawn.

At least Madara had fail safes on top of prefect brainwashing.

If it wasn't for hashi cells Madara would have died in VOTE

 

[Senju Bean]

If it wasn't for hashi cells Madara would have died in VOTE

Madara planned it.

Otherwise he wouldn't have fought that battle.

 

[Senju Bean]

Aizen is far above madara in the planning and villianious department many loopholes in madara's plan it's not even funny. Aizen stomps and one shot many people than madara too.

The only loopholes come from the fact that he was DEAD.

You can't blame him for not being there to oversee everything

 

[TheTailedSage]

Madara planned it.

Otherwise he wouldn't have fought that battle.

I dont think anything as planned untill after than fight. Could be wrong

 

[Sir Derp Troll]

Madara is a better mastermind, I agree.

 

[Dragon1]

As I said numerous times, Madara's plans and the executions of those plans are swarmed with plot holes. It's funny though, since Madara failed in almost every single plan, but got saved by plot holes and luck. Even if you decide to ignore the plot holes, Madara's "plans" are just lucky events that got in his favor. It's also funny that even through in the latest chapter he was going about how he killed Rin and manifested Obito into Tobi, Obito never planned to revive him.

Comparing him to Aizen who planned everything to perfection and never had a plot hole in those plans is ridiculous (maybe letting Ichigo live after he destroyed fake Karakura? Can't remember why he let him live though.).

Madara is just another clichéd all-powerful villain that suddenly appears at the end and says how he planned everything. It's the most common form of villain in any media, but unfortunately Madara executes it poorly.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

Again, Black Zetsu only managed to possess a weakened, paralyzed, and DYING Obito, who still managed to fight him off.

Again, at that point white zetsu had already stolen the other rinnegan and could have easily implanted it in himself and used rinne tensei with black Zetsu's help, or they could have found another pawn and used it to ressurect Madara. Spiral Zetsu could have also done it with the rinnegan white Zetsu stole. Oh my god Madara had so many options. It's ridiculous that people try to play down his resourcefulness so much. Madara never needed Kabuto at all, Kabuto in fact for a while was a hindrance as Madara consistently complained about the edo body