Why Madara is a better Mastermind than Aizen.

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Let's face it. Light is the best mastermind of them all.
 

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Let's face it. Light is the best mastermind of them all.

Can't say I disagree with this. Although. I'd say L is better. His intellectual battle with Light was very biased towards Light. The fact that he managed to almost capture Light is impressive in itself.
 

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Can't say I disagree with this. Although. I'd say L is better. His intellectual battle with Light was very biased towards Light. The fact that he managed to almost capture Light is impressive in itself.

To me they're almost like Yin and Yang, though you're right. Light would of probably lost had it not been for the Shinigami and the notebook. Lool, Death Note used to be my obsession.
 

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Aizen is clearly on another level. I cannot believe he's being put against Madara. The difference between their intuition is far too vast. I actually gave up on Bleach the second Aizen got defeated. The biggest Ass-feat from Ichigo and Kubo.
 

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Aizen is clearly on another level. I cannot believe he's being put against Madara. The difference between their intuition is far too vast. I actually gave up on Bleach the second Aizen got defeated. The biggest Ass-feat from Ichigo and Kubo.

Juhabach and Vandenreich just don't have what Aizen had u_u
 

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Juhabach and Vandenreich just don't have what Aizen had u_u

New antagonists in Bleach, I am guessing? I gave up on Bleach. Aizen's defeat and the reasons behind Ichigo's power surge were laughable.
 

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New antagonists in Bleach, I am guessing? I gave up on Bleach. Aizen's defeat and the reasons behind Ichigo's power surge were laughable.

Yeah. I only read about them on the Bleach wiki. They're more powerful than the Arrancar, having conquered Soul Society and all that, but they're... Odd. Very Germanic. And a lot more boring than Aizen and his army.
Their leader has mutton chops, btw...
 

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Can't say I disagree with this. Although. I'd say L is better. His intellectual battle with Light was very biased towards Light. The fact that he managed to almost capture Light is impressive in itself.


Not really. Light won, and was shown to be L's intellectual equal. Light got shinigami powers as his advantage, while L had the police and high-tech means to his advantage. There's no real bias, he just won.
 

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Yeah. I only read about them on the Bleach wiki. They're more powerful than the Arrancar, having conquered Soul Society and all that, but they're... Odd. Very Germanic. And a lot more boring than Aizen and his army.
Their leader has mutton chops, btw...

I agree, the Espada were awesome. I laughed when Aizen got pissed off and stabbed Haribel in the back himself. He soled them all like a boss ...
 

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I agree, the Espada were awesome. I laughed when Aizen got pissed off and stabbed Haribel in the back himself. He soled them all like a boss ...

Aizen is the best villain in bleach in terms of being evil and a trollking, but bach is ridiculously overpowered well the new "villains" with the power to steal bankai and all ( having stolen old man yamamoto's bankai who could stop you really?)
 

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Aizen is the best villain in bleach in terms of being evil and a trollking, but bach is ridiculously overpowered well the new "villains" with the power to steal bankai and all ( having stolen old man yamamoto's bankai who could stop you really?)

I never thought Aizen was evil. Just my opinion though.

Oh man ... really? I hate these kind of things. The author takes things too far and then ends things hastily through the protagonists that never make much sense.
 

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I agree, the Espada were awesome. I laughed when Aizen got pissed off and stabbed Haribel in the back himself. He soled them all like a boss ...

I think my favorite part in Bleach is when the Captains and Visored manage to overwhelm Aizen and for Hitsugaya to deal the final blow. It was only fitting, seeing how Aizen nearly killed Momo. ... Only for it all to be an illusion, and they were all actually whipping the bejesus out of Momo the whole time XD
And then of course, Aizen cuts them all down with ease.
 

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I never thought Aizen was evil. Just my opinion though.

Oh man ... really? I hate these kind of things. The author takes things too far and then ends things hastily through the protagonists that never make much sense.

ahaha yea when characters get too powerful that even plot has problems dealing with them its kind of meh (like madara atm he is trolling plot in a way).

you might want to catch up on the reasons why ichigo is getting all these powerups because at the end it seems he will be something.
 

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in terms of masterminds we shall not forget thy name.......JOHAN!
(HE never lost,ever!)
 

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I think my favorite part in Bleach is when the Captains and Visored manage to overwhelm Aizen and for Hitsugaya to deal the final blow. It was only fitting, seeing how Aizen nearly killed Momo. ... Only for it all to be an illusion, and they were all actually whipping the bejesus out of Momo the whole time XD
And then of course, Aizen cuts them all down with ease.

Poor Momo. She got stabbed ... again. Lol

ahaha yea when characters get too powerful that even plot has problems dealing with them its kind of meh (like madara atm he is trolling plot in a way).

you might want to catch up on the reasons why ichigo is getting all these powerups because at the end it seems he will be something.

I gave up on the manga because of Ichigo. Can't stand him like I can't stand Naruto or Luffy.
 

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Aizen is the complete/perfect villain, no disrespect to Madara intended as he himself has been good.
(Dat and Aizen doesn't have the face of his wood/butt-buddy on his chest)
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Aizen is clearly on another level. I cannot believe he's being put against Madara. The difference between their intuition is far too vast. I actually gave up on Bleach the second Aizen got defeated. The biggest Ass-feat from Ichigo and Kubo.

You and everybody else. It now no longer has an anime, and ranks towards the bottom of Shounen Weekly Jump every week (though not low enough to risk getting cancelled).
 

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Aizen destroys Madara in genuineness
 

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Madara relies on luck. Aizen relies on his own ability and intelligence. No matter what, Madara will just be a knock off compared to Aizen.
Obito becoming the Juubi's Jinchuriki, for example. How the hell did that even happen? Madara was lucky the likes of Naruto and Sasuke were there to bale him out of that f*ck up.

Well, that's how obtaining the Rinnegan works. Too unlock its true power, one needs to give them away and then die and become revived again.

Madara was dead. He had to rely on some luck. He wasnt there to oversee things. Aizen was there the whole time, he corrected errors instantly. How was Madara supposed to do that?

Madara did a way better job given the circumstaces. Besides, I have never seen Aizen brainwash at the level that Madara did to Obito.
 

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Aizen basically controlled Ichigos life from *****, he knew he ever battle and every step. Just remember how old Aizen is. Not even Gotei 13 had no suspicions about him before he was finally considered a "villan" . How do you think Ichigo gained hollowfication? he done this to the main character.
 
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