Why i find madara>hashirama.

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did you read what you posted it was not at 25% it said susanoo was removed from the battle not "oh we only have a little left.
Every battle hashirama and madara had madara was on the ground defeated. Madara has already told the world that no one
can defeat him but hashirama, people need to stop making these threads, threads like these deminish a character in the eyes of
others I like madara i think he is op but when someone comes out of there own mouth and tells you something Take it to be true
 
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did you read what you posted it was not at 25% it said susanoo was removed from the battle not "oh we only have a little left.
Every battle hashirama and madara had madara was on the ground defeated. Madara has already told the world that no one
can defeat him but hashirama, people need to stop making these threads, threads like these deminish a character in the eyes of
others I like madara i think he is op but when someone comes out of there own mouth and tells you something Take it to be true
There are only two examples where hashi beaten madara.
So far all i did was pointing out bad choises of madara and came up with more effective ones that are within his capabilities.
 

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Madara lost and that's all there is to it when discussing who is the stronger of the two. Madara already told the Gokage Hashirama is superior to him.

Hashirama>Madara.
Ok then answer 2 questions.
1 Can hashirama beat madara+kyuubi w/o SM?

2 If doubled initial distance between budda and PS+kurama would lead into double amount of shuriken TBBs, would budda survive it?
 

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his choices every time got him his ass handed to him im sure he tried different attacks as we know he fought hashi many times over the years true we only saw two examples if they showed all the examples we would never get back to the present time so they summed them up
 

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his choices every time got him his ass handed to him im sure he tried different attacks as we know he fought hashi many times over the years true we only saw two examples if they showed all the examples we would never get back to the present time so they summed them up
I understand that hashirama legitimately won, given that most likely madara didnt know of his SM and ability to suppress biju and stop TBBs.
But with full info, does it go the same way?
 

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Madara can't summon Kurama at any given moment, ergo it's not his. Hashi can collect nature energy whenever he feels like it, that's his ability. Madara's ability is to control the kyuubi, but he needs to find it first.
 

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I understand that hashirama legitimately won, given that most likely madara didnt know of his SM and ability to suppress biju and stop TBBs.
But with full info, does it go the same way?
i think it does because the only way to have that full knowledge was to fight him and if that happened hashi would also have the info on madara
 
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