[Discussion] Who's the Strongest Straw-hat?

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I would like the link to that.
I don't have the link but it was said in some of the SBS. If you can google it you will find it. It's 100% legit info.

If Usopp was weaker than Nami, do you honestly think Oda would have made him say this
Usopp wasn't aware how strong are others now. He's still in the "weakling" trio.

I doubt Nami could have taken on Luffy....
Nami took out CP9 agent and those guys were all stronger than Water 7 Luffy, tho Ennies Lobby base Luffy is stronger than some of the CP9 agents due to an asspull power up.

Oda pretty much discarded the whole "weak trio" thing due to Usopp, Nami and Chopper being fearless in battle now.
They are called weakling trio because they are the weakest in Straw Hats.
They were never weak, they just had ridicously strong enemies. Now they all are incredibly strong themselves.
 
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imo the order goes like the ....keep in mind this is a list of fighting strenght not usefulness to the crew

1.luffy
2.zorro
3.robin
4sanji
5.franky
6. brook
7. usop
8. chooper
9. nami
 

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Nami took out CP9 agent and those guys were all stronger than Water 7 Luffy, tho Ennies Lobby base Luffy is stronger than some of the CP9 agents due to an asspull power up.


They are called weakling trio because they are the weakest in Straw Hats.
They were never weak, they just had ridicously strong enemies. Now they all are incredibly strong themselves.
That doesn't mean she could have taken on Luffy like Usopp did. She used lightning...and we know what happens when someone tries to fight Luffy with Lightning xd

And the main reason why they were called weak wasn't really just because of their strength. That wouldn't be fair. What if every anime had a "weak group" just because they weren't the strongest? No, it was because they lacked the courage that everyone else had. So Usopp was the weakest when it came to that however, he isn't the same as he was then, neither are Chopper and Nami. Though they are still the weakest among the crew, theres no point in calling them the "weak trio" anymore due to them not being weak anymore.

Thats the best part about character development. Usopp still freaks out when the crew is in danger and still overreacts, which is good because thats what makes him funny. But he hasn't shown any fear in battle. He showed confidence. Same goes for Chopper.
So Oda knows how to keep the fans happy. He improved their flaws, but still kept the personality.
 
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I would like the link to that. If Usopp was weaker than Nami, do you honestly think Oda would have made him say this
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I doubt Nami could have taken on Luffy....
Oda pretty much discarded the whole "weak trio" thing due to Usopp, Nami and Chopper being fearless in battle now.
ussop made those comments before seeing how much the monster trio improved, meaning he was comparing his current self to the monster trio's old self. clearly when we saw them in battle ussop was put back in his place
......................going back to the question
1. Luffy
2. Zoro
3. Sanji
.......................No discussion here
4. Robin
5. Franky
6. Brook
....................... the only reason i'd put robin over franky was b'cuz of what aokiji said to her after the cp9 series (that she could have handled them herself and ran away)

7. Chopper
8. Usopp
9. Nami
........................choppers clearly the strongest out of these 3 since he is able to control beast mode, but nami and ussop is a little fuzzy, nami would be smarter in battle but ussop would have the upper hand in combat
 

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Yeah, back in East Blue. And it wasn't Oda who said that, it was Mayumi Tanaka, Luffy's VA.
Nothing changed till timeskip. Nami had better feats than Ussop. Ussop's greatest fight was ..uhm.. back at Alabasta? Nami defeated cp9 agent by herself. Plus, she kicked Usopp's butt at Arlong Park. Pre timeskip Nami was even physicly stronger than Usopp, tho Usopp has incredible resistance.

Timeskip Usopp buffed up. Obviosly he's physicly stronger than Nami, Robin and Brook but in battle he might be weaker than Nami. We still haven't seen her and Robin's progression. Usopp's new weapon is cool but weather can destroy ships, towns and even whole islands if Nami can utilize this kind of power she can be very powerful.
 

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Nothing changed till timeskip. Nami had better feats than Ussop. Ussop's greatest fight was ..uhm.. back at Alabasta? Nami defeated cp9 agent by herself. Plus, she kicked Usopp's butt at Arlong Park. Pre timeskip Nami was even physicly stronger than Usopp, tho Usopp has incredible resistance.

Timeskip Usopp buffed up. Obviosly he's physicly stronger than Nami, Robin and Brook but in battle he might be weaker than Nami. We still haven't seen her and Robin's progression. Usopp's new weapon is cool but weather can destroy ships, towns and even whole islands if Nami can utilize this kind of power she can be very powerful.
And you're cutting out Usopp's fight against Daruma because ..? In attack power yes Nami is stronger, but in terms of versatility Usopp wins. It's like comparing a mage and a sniper.

I'd take the sniper over the weather mage any day though, make a 1v1 match between them anywhere in the internet and I'll guarantee you Usopp wins 9/10.

Usopp also fought stronger enemies in Alabasta. Nami just lucked her way out. Kalifa just played with her DF she got an hour ago, and didn't take Nami seriously. Ms Merry Xmas and Mr. 9 took Chopper and Usopp seriously.

His feats are vastly better. He also has tanking feats greater than Sanji's.

Brb, making universal tier thread.
 

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And you're cutting out Usopp's fight against Daruma because ..? In attack power yes Nami is stronger, but in terms of versatility Usopp wins. It's like comparing a mage and a sniper.

I'd take the sniper over the weather mage any day though, make a 1v1 match between them anywhere in the internet and I'll guarantee you Usopp wins 9/10.

Usopp also fought stronger enemies in Alabasta. Nami just lucked her way out. Kalifa just played with her DF she got an hour ago, and didn't take Nami seriously. Ms Merry Xmas and Mr. 9 took Chopper and Usopp seriously.

His feats are vastly better. He also has tanking feats greater than Sanji's.

Brb, making universal tier thread.
I was talking about pre timeskip. You said that Usopp was weakest at East Blue. My point was that he was weakest up until timeskip.

Luck or plot doesn't matter, she won. Luffy won against Oars Jr and Moria by luck but he still won.

And yes I already said that Usopp has incredible resistance.
 

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this is zoro guys ive said so many times on other threads that luffy and zoro are the nxt gold roger and dark king of this era in terms of stregth and of course they have to get there if luffy wants to be pk and zoro wants to be the best swords men in the world they both have to be that strong so that being said for the justification of the plot alone zoros the strongest easily hes luffys first mate has the second highest bounty in the crew always fights the second strongest person what other evidence do i need
 
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