Who is the overall weakest kage in history? (From who we know)

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I forgot the name of it, it really doesn't matter because you understand what i mean. It's toxic gas because during the Mei v Sasuke she said she had to balance the Ph of the gas... It's either it was very basic or acidic, AKA toxic.............


If you pile lava onto tsunade to the point that she's trapped she'll die. Byakugou doesn't last forever. Mei only has to keep her defences up till byakugou falls, and tsunade won't be turning it off when mei has the surrounded air filled with Corrisive/Boiling/W.e-you-want-to-call-it gas

Rock lee has no ninjutsu or genjutsu, what's your point that she has poor taijutsu? She has mid range and AOE jutsu. That ontop of the fact that she's Fire, water and earth release. Her kekei genkai work on those 3 natures, and she probably has jutsu for each...

Uhh piling lava ontop of a person standing still would be easy, but i believe Tsunade can move.

The time byakugou lasts is more than enough to take down mei she would tire out before it was up
 

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Uhh piling lava ontop of a person standing still would be easy, but i believe Tsunade can move.

The time byakugou lasts is more than enough to take down mei she would tire out before it was up

Also steam has ph, it is a chemical reaction taking place with steam it was burning him toxic is more of a poison related term
 

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I beg to differ, the lava may have melted the susano but it was still intact and if he wasnt an edo i think he could still pull off the basic susano clones he set on them and we all saw what happened to her then, rape lol

Are you seriously using the fact that madara beat mei as part of your arguement? Madara DESTROYED Ay, oonoki, mei, gaara, and tsunade. Infact, Tsunade lasted the longest because she wasn't dying. Then madara said he was bored and tore her in two. Don't use an Edo madara who has unlimited chakra and is literally the most powerful guy right now as a basis for your arguement.
 

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Are you seriously using the fact that madara beat mei as part of your arguement? Madara DESTROYED Ay, oonoki, mei, gaara, and tsunade. Infact, Tsunade lasted the longest because she wasn't dying. Then madara said he was bored and tore her in two. Don't use an Edo madara who has unlimited chakra and is literally the most powerful guy right now as a basis for your arguement.

And the fact she lasted the longest says what? :)
 

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It doesnt matter how earlyin the fight it was, he's an edo with unlimited chakra.

Unlimited chakara or not he has alot of chakara in his day when he WASNT an edo so using unlimited chakara as an excuse when his feats did not go beyond what he would have been able to manage when he was alive is retarded. shutup, have you seen the fight with hashi? do you think susano clones is somethign difficult for hi mto have done if he was not an edo? At that point he wasnt perfect susano either, js so dont even go to that
 

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Also steam has ph, it is a chemical reaction taking place with steam it was burning him toxic is more of a poison related term

Holy shit. I'm closing this page now. You just made me realise i should stop arguing with you.

The Ph of Steam, Aka evaporated water, is 6-7. That's neutral. What causes damage is the energy transfered as heat between molecules of H2O and surrounding materials. The Energy breaks bonds and causes materials which come into contact to become denaturized (basically they change).

You can't balance the Ph of water. It's already balanced. Atleast learn some chemistry before you say something to do with toxicity, Ph and corrosion.


And you keep avoiding the point that Mei can make ALL surrounding air toxic Tsunade will be fighting in a dense air of constant corrosion. Mei could probably even drop the Ph to 0 or 14. Do you even know how corrosive that is? Your skin either melts away as fast as it heals, or burns. Tsunade will be fighting in excrutiating pain, and she does feel pain while in byakugou. That plus the fact that mei can use water/fire/earth jutsu to help trap tsunade and can spread lava over a wide area gives mei the fight. Tsunade is punch, heal and kick. Tsunade can beat some people, just not mei. Not unless tsunade has a sage mode.
 

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Unlimited chakara or not he has alot of chakara in his day when he WASNT an edo so using unlimited chakara as an excuse when his feats did not go beyond what he would have been able to manage when he was alive is retarded. shutup, have you seen the fight with hashi? do you think susano clones is somethign difficult for hi mto have done if he was not an edo? At that point he wasnt perfect susano either, js so dont even go to that

You honestly think madara had chakra for PS, Shattered heaven, Flowers(that forest of flower jutsu of hashi), 10 Susano'o clones, preta path, great fire annihilation and more on his normal chakra reserves? You seriously do need help.
 

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tsunade definately, the only reason many people are writing mei instead of tsunade is because she has bigger boobs and guys respect bigger boobs.. :win:
 

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Holy shit. I'm closing this page now. You just made me realise i should stop arguing with you.

The Ph of Steam, Aka evaporated water, is 6-7. That's neutral. What causes damage is the energy transfered as heat between molecules of H2O and surrounding materials. The Energy breaks bonds and causes materials which come into contact to become denaturized (basically they change).

You can't balance the Ph of water. It's already balanced. Atleast learn some chemistry before you say something to do with toxicity, Ph and corrosion.


And you keep avoiding the point that Mei can make ALL surrounding air toxic Tsunade will be fighting in a dense air of constant corrosion. Mei could probably even drop the Ph to 0 or 14. Do you even know how corrosive that is? Your skin either melts away as fast as it heals, or burns. Tsunade will be fighting in excrutiating pain, and she does feel pain while in byakugou. That plus the fact that mei can use water/fire/earth jutsu to help trap tsunade and can spread lava over a wide area gives mei the fight. Tsunade is punch, heal and kick. Tsunade can beat some people, just not mei. Not unless tsunade has a sage mode.

I must be going as well i will finish off with this, Mei Terumi is the weakest kage.

her Toxic (since you want to call it that) gas works best in a closed room and even as awesome as you say it is we've only seen it bruise weak sasuke, she almost got her ass handed to her by black zetsu.

Lava and working with limited chakara runs that bitch dry after a few times.

Tsunade tanked susano swords, still went on i doubt getting burnt from a gas will bother her that much, facts are facts mei cant stand against Tsunades stamina and experience or jutsu with hers.

Everyone else acknowledges this even those that don't like Tsunade.

Me making a mistake about a jutsu has nothing to do with anything else other than the fact i don't know chemistry.
 

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You honestly think madara had chakra for PS, Shattered heaven, Flowers(that forest of flower jutsu of hashi), 10 Susano'o clones, preta path, great fire annihilation and more on his normal chakra reserves? You seriously do need help.

Also i believe we were talking about if he wasnt an edo, keep on track.

So exclude the jutsu that he got from being buffed with senju dna and leave in his own jutsu.

So yes i do think he could manage that, as a non edo, mei still wouldnt match up not even close

toodles.
 

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Mei and tsuande. I have to say, tsuande isnt that weak but you would expect more from the hokage/ legendary sannin. Yeah. Yeah but her healing powers are pure awesomeness so i praise her for that.

-made Oro run away
- Created a totally different system of the Ninja world
- Most known Sanin
- Considered the Strongest Woman in Naruto
- She can without a Doubt beat A's ass
 

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-made Oro run away
- Created a totally different system of the Ninja world
- Most known Sanin
- Considered the Strongest Woman in Naruto
- She can without a Doubt beat A's ass

In strength she can but not in battle.

If Sasuke, who himself is fast with a fully developed Sharingan struggles to match him in speed, Tsunade doesn't have a chance.
 

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Are you guys kidding me?

Mei is strong. She may have not the right moveset to put up much of a fight against Madara, but against most ninja she is nearly impossible to kill. Yoton is too hard to defend against without Susano'o, and Futton is nearly impossible to defend against even with Susano'o.

As for OP, Minato is the weakest. And no, im not underestimating him. He has some fancy sealing but any of the 5 kage right now could kill him

Cool, I found my new sig.
 

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In strength she can but not in battle.

If Sasuke, who himself is fast with a fully developed Sharingan struggles to match him in speed, Tsunade doesn't have a chance.
Sorry mate she can tank Ay, allowing her to catch him and smash him. =].
 

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You honestly think madara had chakra for PS, Shattered heaven, Flowers(that forest of flower jutsu of hashi), 10 Susano'o clones, preta path, great fire annihilation and more on his normal chakra reserves? You seriously do need help.

Don't underestimate his chakra reserves. If he could simultaneously run Susano'o and Kyuubi summon with no signs of fatigue, who knows what he could do. I doubt he could use Tengai Shinsei, but Fire Release techs aren't that draining to Fire Release masters, especially Uchiha, as seen back in Part 1 when Sasuke used Goukakyuu no Jutsu twice and Housenka no Jutsu once without it using much chakra, as he still had enough chakra after facing Temari to use Chidori and then use Katon again after his second Chidori.
 

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Hashirama is the weakest. No doubt about that he got sealed by an old hiruzen.
 

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I disagree with you here. Mei can take out Susano'o, and Hiruzen can spam Shiki Fuujin. We have problems if you consider shiki fujin fodder.

Mei can somewhat melt the weakest Susano'o in the series, not even in it's full form. And Hiruzen avoids Shiki Fuujin unless the village is in danger and he has no other option, it's his last resort, not something to be spammed.

It's like saying Madara starts his battle with PS every time in battles, it doesn't happen.
 
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