Who is the overall weakest kage in history? (From who we know)

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In his prime, he was definetly better than what we saw.
Wel yes, of course. But from what hes shown us, part 1 Kakashi could go toe-to-toe with him. He hasnt shown anything too spectacular or Kage-like. Of course, hes been brought back so that is subject to change
 

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Are you guys kidding me?

Mei is strong. She may have not the right moveset to put up much of a fight against Madara, but against most ninja she is nearly impossible to kill. Yoton is too hard to defend against without Susano'o, and Futton is nearly impossible to defend against even with Susano'o.

As for OP, Minato is the weakest. And no, im not underestimating him. He has some fancy sealing but any of the 5 kage right now could kill him


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4th Kazekage is the weakest. Whoever says Tsunade is weak, you are wrong. She is actually strong. If Any of the Kage's ge cut in half, they would die. But her? Naaa.
 

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I think two DRS without dieing is legendary. And that's with a shit chakra reserve and decaying body.
I get what youre saying but its useless without him being able to grab ahold of his opponent. That isnt happening in most scenarios. Him finding the do Kage in the dark was some of the biggest BS weve seen Kishi pull to date. Put him in a fight against any of the current Kage, and he gets his ass whopped
 

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At this age, yes.

And he knows that, that's why he wanted a fourth. Too bad for him he had to rush to a decision and chose fodder like Minato. Orochimaru would have made a much better candidate if he wasn't so corrupt.

Now that he has no chakra reserve Sarutobi can pretty much solo the war, i believe at least.
I cant tell if im being trolled right now
 

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Just because Susano'o is upgraded doesn't mean it's made out of stronger Material.

That mist seepes through any Susano'o and rapes.

Susano'o Ribcage: Takes one Lariat and cracks.
Full Susano'o: Takes Gaaras, Temaris, Kankuros and Daruis attacks without a problem.
 

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At this age, yes.

And he knows that, that's why he wanted a fourth. Too bad for him he had to rush to a decision and chose fodder like Minato. Orochimaru would have made a much better candidate if he wasn't so corrupt.

Now that he has no chakra reserve Sarutobi can pretty much solo the war, i believe at least.


Are you serious? Edo Madara can play with him and not even be serious. Too bad Hiruzen got retconned. If Hiruzen came back prime he still could not solo the war. Hiruzen came back at like 70. He is still slow.

Minato > Hiruzen
 

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So what you're saying is that Tsunade isn't the weakest, but just one of the weakest?

Yes, i love tsunade ALOT but i can admit the truth she is in the weaker kage category, from what i have seen so far which is probably all shes got
 

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With a Susano'o ribcage, the defense level is far different.

MY POINT IS, she's proven that she isn't that weak. Susano'o is basically the ultimate defence( RibCage or otherwise) but her toxic gas was able to be able to melt susano'o's ribs and corrode sasuke at the same time. That coupled with her lava release to trap people (which will kill you if it hits you) makes her formidable. Even madara said the lava release shouldn't hit him, and it even melted his susano'o ribs also.

If mei Releases her toxic gas in the area she can potentially kill large armies at the time, it's seen that she's immune to it. Mei isn't that weak. For all you know she could beat A - Encase herself in a lava shield and concentrate the area with her toxic gas. IMO, Mei puts up a good fight, if not beats the current kages. She really isn't that weak....

Like i said, 4th kazekage is far weaker. His gold dust is basically only good for economical purposes - he's a watered down version of gaara.

Tl;Dr; Mei has melted both sasuke's and madara's susano'o
 

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lol..Are you saying mei is better than her?

why not? Mei can keep dumping lava on tsunade. Without Katsuya, Mei stomps tsunade. With katsuya tsunade has a chance.
But, Both mei and tsunade aren't weak. They are by far some of the strongest (if not the strongest) females in NV right now.. and aren't the weakest kages( from those past and present) either.

Without a doubt.

If Madara weren't Edo, she could do some serious damage to him.

Mei's Futton is underestimated. It is the most strongest ninjutsu we've seen in the manga, we just haven't seen it often.

Exactly. People See mei's first and only fight is against the pseudo-rykudou madara and then just tag her as weak. They forget that she was the only one that madara actually gave some praise (said the kages offense was good - when mei and Ay attacked).
 
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MY POINT IS, she's proven that she isn't that weak. Susano'o is basically the ultimate defence( RibCage or otherwise) but her toxic gas was able to be able to melt susano'o's ribs and corrode sasuke at the same time. That coupled with her lava release to trap people (which will kill you if it hits you) makes her formidable. Even madara said the lava release shouldn't hit him, and it even melted his susano'o ribs also.

If mei Releases her toxic gas in the area she can potentially kill large armies at the time, it's seen that she's immune to it. Mei isn't that weak. For all you know she could beat A - Encase herself in a lava shield and concentrate the area with her toxic gas. IMO, Mei puts up a good fight, if not beats the current kages. She really isn't that weak....

Like i said, 4th kazekage is far weaker. His gold dust is basically only good for economical purposes - he's a watered down version of gaara.

Tl;Dr; Mei has melted both sasuke's and madara's susano'o

Toxic gas? lol thats steam dude, i believe its listed as boil release, not toxic gas. And being able to melt them didn't do that much for her and sasuke was like low chakara anyway
 

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why not? Mei can keep dumping lava on tsunade. Without Katsuya, Mei stomps tsunade. With katsuya tsunade has a chance.
But, Both mei and tsunade aren't weak. They are by far some of the strongest (if not the strongest) females in NV right now.. and aren't the weakest kages( from those past and present) either.

uhhh byakugou please. boil release wont do much and as for lava i should say the same if tsunade could tank other jutsu to save their asses, and mei has poor taijutsu if tsunade landed a blow its over
 

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You can do much better than that.

Temari - One of the best Fuuton users in the Shinobi world.
Kankuro - Probably the best Puppeteer.
Gaara - Kazekage, defeated Sasuke and Nidaime Mizukage.
Darui - Defeated Kin/Ginkaku almost all by himself, used three of Rikudou's tools and didn't show exhaustion and recognised by Sandaime and Yondaime Raikage.
 

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Without a doubt.

If Madara weren't Edo, she could do some serious damage to him.

Mei's Futton is underestimated. It is the most strongest ninjutsu we've seen in the manga, we just haven't seen it often.

I beg to differ, the lava may have melted the susano but it was still intact and if he wasnt an edo i think he could still pull off the basic susano clones he set on them and we all saw what happened to her then, rape lol
 

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No, he would not be able to do that.

that was pure abuse of unlimited chakra reserves.

No it wasnt, that happened pretty early in the fight lmao check again, and clones are pretty basic, JS
 

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Toxic gas? lol thats steam dude, i believe its listed as boil release, not toxic gas. And being able to melt them didn't do that much for her and sasuke was like low chakara anyway

I forgot the name of it, it really doesn't matter because you understand what i mean. It's toxic gas because during the Mei v Sasuke she said she had to balance the Ph of the gas... It's either it was very basic or acidic, AKA toxic.............

uhhh byakugou please. boil release wont do much and as for lava i should say the same if tsunade could tank other jutsu to save their asses, and mei has poor taijutsu if tsunade landed a blow its over
If you pile lava onto tsunade to the point that she's trapped she'll die. Byakugou doesn't last forever. Mei only has to keep her defences up till byakugou falls, and tsunade won't be turning it off when mei has the surrounded air filled with Corrisive/Boiling/W.e-you-want-to-call-it gas

Rock lee has no ninjutsu or genjutsu, what's your point that she has poor taijutsu? She has mid range and AOE jutsu. That ontop of the fact that she's Fire, water and earth release. Her kekei genkai work on those 3 natures, and she probably has jutsu for each...
 

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No, he would not be able to do that.

that was pure abuse of unlimited chakra reserves.

Also if we go by that logic Tsunade still beats her, because she did more damage on the susano than mei and actually got to touch madara(even if it was a clone) and just overall handled it better
 
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