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Easy. People who have powerful Genjutsu. I.e Madara, Itachi, Shisiu and even Sasuke. All they have to do is put him in Genjutsu. Obviously you know what I mean.
 

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Minato

Naruto

Nagato

4th Raikage ..maybe

Madara
Nagato, Naruto, Madara and A wouldnt be able to teleport. The only reason Minato got away, was because of teleporting. Speed isnt enough.
 

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You're probably right, Minato was BARELY able to get away with S/T and he's the fastest in the series.

The only possible person I see evading is BM Naruto if he can sense Tobi's intentions and move BEFORE he gets grabbed. Once you get grabbed it's basically over.
 

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Just curious out of all the names you have seen posted here would you be able to name 10 who has the best chance to escape Tobi's s/t ex:

Minato:60/40
Naruto:50/50

etc
 

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That part in the manga always made me wonder. Tobi said something like Minato wouldn't have gotten away if he hadn't said anything, but I still don't see how Minato realized he was going to get warped until...well....he started trying to warp him. Like Minato's FTG is instantaneous, if Minato knew he was going to get warped while Tobi was talking, I'm sure he would've just escaped during his speech. I think Minato again, full powered Raikage and Naruto are the only ones fast enough to dodge it.
 

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As for the part where Tobi wants to absorb Minato, even if Minato wouldn't have escaped, Hiraishin is a Jikukan Ninjutsu. Shouldn't Minato be able to simply teleport back out of Tobi's dimension?
 

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How did this become a hottest thread? U_U


As for the part where Tobi wants to absorb Minato, even if Minato wouldn't have escaped, Hiraishin is a Jikukan Ninjutsu. Shouldn't Minato be able to simply teleport back out of Tobi's dimension?

Possibly. That's an interesting question.

Nagato wins agaisnt tobi mid difficulty :)

Ooookay then, Celestial Terra Blast.


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Just curious out of all the names you have seen posted here would you be able to name 10 who has the best chance to escape Tobi's s/t ex:

Minato:60/40
Naruto:50/50

etc

Hell if I know, haha. I'll take guesses, I guess.

Minato (without Tobi pausing): 60-65/100

Naruto (BM and KM already activated): 40-45/100

A (badass reflexes): 40-50/100

SM Kabuto: 35-45/100

Nagato and Madara (with Shinra Tensei through instinct): 30/100, only because instincts don't save you every time.
 
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As for the part where Tobi wants to absorb Minato, even if Minato wouldn't have escaped, Hiraishin is a Jikukan Ninjutsu. Shouldn't Minato be able to simply teleport back out of Tobi's dimension?

Don't think a seal can react on someone who's in another dimension.
 

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Doesn't Tobi need to materialize his body for doing this technique, if yes, then no need to dodge, just pull out Kunai and attack him, if he wants to avoid his throat getting cut then he will make himself intangible and can not pull you in, it will give you time to get away from him.xd

I don't think anyone would have time to, while being warped in only a few seconds, pull out a kunai, turn around, and stab Tobi.


Kabuto doesn't need to see it coming, he can sense him because of his perceptual ability. Not just Minato but also Konan escaped. And I think you're overrating that Jutsu. Konan explained it, he has to solidify if he wants to suck someone into his world, so if you i.e hit him while he sucks you in (like konan with the explosive tags or i.e as kimmimaro with his bones or if you liquefy your body) he won't succeed. So if you just prevent him from solidifying he can not use his Jutsu so he can't really attack. And i.e Sasuke could easily counter the jutsu with his Enton and anyother person who has something like a shield around them can protect themselves from that Jutsu as well.

Konan attacked Tobi, it wasn't the other way around. And can Kabuto sense Tobi in another dimension? For Sasuke, I don't think he'd have enough time to react, unless he does it before hand (through instincts).

Tobi has to be materialized in order to absorb his target. Itachi can use his Susanoo, because its activation is lightning fast and could crush Tobi so in time. Similar when Sasuke activated his Susanoo while being under Danzos seal.

But does Itachi have the reflexes and ability to do so, while being disoriented by being warped? And wouldn't the Susanoo just form around Tobi, too?

Easy. People who have powerful Genjutsu. I.e Madara, Itachi, Shisiu and even Sasuke. All they have to do is put him in Genjutsu. Obviously you know what I mean.

>Implying that someone has the reflexes to turn around, look Tobi in the eyes, and Genjutsu him, all while being warped, when MINATO had to evade the attack instead of retaliating.
 
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How did this become a hottest thread? U_U
Hell if I know, haha. I'll take guesses, I guess.

Minato (without Tobi pausing): 60-65/100

Naruto (BM and KM already activated): 40-45/100

A (badass reflexes): 40-50/100

SM Kabuto: 35-45/100

Nagato and Madara (with Shinra Tensei through instinct): 30/100, only because instincts don't save you every time.

Tobi pausing didn't give Minato more time to react, like I said before, he only reacted from the start of the teleportation

Naruto has very high chances because BM is insanely fast as is KM, and he can sense emotions and negativity

SM Kabuto has insane perceptual ability and this would help him dodge this more than the majority of the time

Nagato / Madara will both Shinra Tensei as soon as Tobi touches them, which pretty much negates the attack

A in v2, has a very high chance of evading imo

I truly think you are overrating this Jutsu, I can see you're a fan of Tobi and nothing I say would change your opinion so I won't try and change it U_U
 

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Don't think a seal can react on someone who's in another dimension.
Debatable. But since it works through space and time, that actually shouldn't be the problem. Miscalculation on Tobi's part or a possible limit of Hiraishin no Jutsu?

But does Itachi have the reflexes and ability to do so, while being disoriented by being warped? And wouldn't the Susanoo just form around Tobi, too?
No. It'd arise from Itachi's body, pushing or rather forcing Tobi away.

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1) Minato knew about tobi's wrapping technique only when tobi started doing it, & after that,minato used FTG to escape.Talking didnt worsen anything for tobi.
Its just a misconception that minato escaped because tobi was talking.
& I dont know why people are translating : "I'll catch you next time" into "If I hadnt talked,I'd have caught you"

2) Another question is,what exactly is Tobi's dimension ? It cant be something out of the world.I believe its a place actually on earth, & the concept is same as FTG, ie to teleport the warped object to that location...(sasuke's been there in that dimension) Also one more thing, warping doesnt mean game over.

3) Also, FTG doesnt require a medium for teleportation,so Minato could've teleported back using ftg even if he would've got warped into that dimension.
 

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1) Minato knew about tobi's wrapping technique only when tobi started doing it, & after that,minato used FTG to escape.Talking didnt worsen anything for tobi.
Its just a misconception that minato escaped because tobi was talking.
& I dont know why people are translating : "I'll catch you next time" into "If I hadnt talked,I'd have caught you"

2) Another question is,what exactly is Tobi's dimension ? It cant be something out of the world.I believe its a place actually on earth, & the concept is same as FTG, ie to teleport the warped object to that location...(sasuke's been there in that dimension) Also one more thing, warping doesnt mean game over.

3) Also, FTG doesnt require a medium for teleportation,so Minato could've teleported back using ftg even if he would've got warped into that dimension.

Yeah, Minato probably could have dodged it anyway.

Debatable. But since it works through space and time, that actually shouldn't be the problem. Miscalculation on Tobi's part or a possible limit of Hiraishin no Jutsu?


No. It'd arise from Itachi's body, pushing or rather forcing Tobi away.

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Even if Tobi is "growing" from inside Itachi? I wonder...
 

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Even if Tobi is "growing" from inside Itachi? I wonder...
Since he has to materialize in order to absorb things, and cannot materialize while being 'inside' Itachi since he has to (de)materialize his entire body at once, your point is invalid.
 

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Since he has to materialize in order to absorb things, and cannot materialize while being 'inside' Itachi since he has to (de)materialize his entire body at once, your point is invalid.

Ah true. I guess it comes down to whether Itachi can activate Susanoo in the few seconds he has, while being disoriented by Tobi's warping. Its definitely possible.
 

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What happens if Tobi materializes himself while being in Itachis body (if you know what I want to say)?
 

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What happens if Tobi materializes himself while being in Itachis body (if you know what I want to say)?

That'd be...interesting. Would Itachi die as if being pierced by something? :confused:
 

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You people are fogetting Tobi got Sasuke out of Dust Release less than 1sec So yes that is pretty fast 4 Him to Warm Himself in there Warp Himself and Sasuke out B4 any Damage was Done.

And Konan Said He moves slower when Warping other Objects And Himself Up I Doubt half of the people can Dodge something that fast
 
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