Where was this speed we've been hearing about?

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shouldn't he have just scooped kakashi can dodged easily here?


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shouldn't the sharingan have not been able to read his chakra cloak here?


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shouldn't he have just appeared next to obito right here due to his blinding speed?

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where is this "amazing battle speed" naruto is going to use on everyone to dodge every attack? I mean he is a sensor shouldn't he know what obito is going to do and use his speed to counter? He does this in the VS threads all the time
 
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The answer is the same answer as to why Madara has literally done nothing since he arrived at Naruto's position, and why Obito has not used the Rinnegan once yet. Kishi wrote himself into a wall. He gave the character too much of an advantage, so to compensate that he has to go against the logic of things and have the characters not exploit their advantages.
 

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The answer is the same answer as to why Madara has literally done nothing since he arrived at Naruto's position, and why Obito has not used the Rinnegan once yet. Kishi wrote himself into a wall. He gave the character too much of an advantage, so to compensate that he has to go against the logic of things and have the characters not exploit their advantages.

i agreed with this^^^
 

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I don't think he's very used to it yet.
don't forget he only got his KM like 3 days ago and BM like half a day ago. plus been fighting non stop...
 

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People do not understand how exactly naruto's speed works.

It is not like he can just blitz through everyone as he pleases, to achieve that naruto needs to train his body. All he got was chakra as an upgrade and he never train his body for high speed movements.

It takes Naruto some time to use "speed blitzing" , he has to store chakra in his feet and then release it all at once which makes him "dash" at high speeds.
 

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The answer is the same answer as to why Madara has literally done nothing since he arrived at Naruto's position, and why Obito has not used the Rinnegan once yet. Kishi wrote himself into a wall. He gave the character too much of an advantage, so to compensate that he has to go against the logic of things and have the characters not exploit their advantages.

Pretty much this.

Speed is one of those things in any fighting genre that if it is too over quantified at one point to establish a feat, it needs to be nerfed later on or it becomes to exploitable and it doesn't feel feasible for any other character to beat said fast character. It's the same reason why Madara didn't just decimate the alliance with a meteor and or let Obito demolish the alliance when they were controlling the Juubi; plot.
 

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The answer is the same answer as to why Madara has literally done nothing since he arrived at Naruto's position, and why Obito has not used the Rinnegan once yet. Kishi wrote himself into a wall. He gave the character too much of an advantage, so to compensate that he has to go against the logic of things and have the characters not exploit their advantages.

that would be the time for him to use it... in the fight with the two other characters you mentioned.
 

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People do not understand how exactly naruto's speed works.

It is not like he can just blitz through everyone as he pleases, to achieve that naruto needs to train his body. All he got was chakra as an upgrade and he never train his body for high speed movements.

It takes Naruto some time to use "speed blitzing" , he has to store chakra in his feet and then release it all at once which makes him "dash" at high speeds.

I agree with this. this is the most logical non "kishi nerfed him" answer.
 

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Pretty much this.

Speed is one of those things in any fighting genre that if it is too over quantified at one point to establish a feat, it needs to be nerfed later on or it becomes to exploitable and it doesn't feel feasible for any other character to beat said fast character. It's the same reason why Madara didn't just decimate the alliance with a meteor and or let Obito demolish the alliance when they were controlling the Juubi; plot.

It would be easier to digest If naruto had more than one BM and KCM speed feat a piece to go on. right now it just seems implausible that naruto can use this speed for anything other than short bursts and very infrequently.
 
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People do not understand how exactly naruto's speed works.

It is not like he can just blitz through everyone as he pleases, to achieve that naruto needs to train his body. All he got was chakra as an upgrade and he never train his body for high speed movements.

It takes Naruto some time to use "speed blitzing" , he has to store chakra in his feet and then release it all at once which makes him "dash" at high speeds.

I agree with this

OP- It'a also for the sake of having good plot if Naruto owned Obito right then and there, there would be no plot just sdfu and enjoy it
 

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plot wise,what logical reason is there for naruto not moving at top speed when fighting the leaders of the enemy forces?
 

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plot wise,what logical reason is there for naruto not moving at top speed when fighting the leaders of the enemy forces?

plot wise he haven't even been able to go BM mode since the kages arrived. chakra issues from being fighting 2/3 days non stop...
he's also not used it, he only got access to that speed 2/3 days ago...
 

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Someone doesn't know the difference between Shunshin or Base Speed. Nor how Shunshin works.
 

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plot wise he haven't even been able to go BM mode since the kages arrived. chakra issues from being fighting 2/3 days non stop...
he's also not used it, he only got access to that speed 2/3 days ago...

no one buys that excuse when mentioning sasuke vs killer bee and the gokage
 

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Because fighting-striking speed and movement speed are different things.

An atlete is obviously faster than a kick-boxer; but he can't simply "speed blitz" the boxer and own him/her. İn fact, everyone knows the athlete would lose here without much difficulty, and taking some hits despite simply being faster.

That been said; Naruto is not even used to his movement speed since it came in a short amount of time suddenly instead of developing in time; let alone his striking speed.

Also blitz means hitting multiple times with overwhelming speed...which Naruto haven't done yet.
 

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Because fighting-striking speed and movement speed are different things.

An atlete is obviously faster than a kick-boxer; but he can't simply "speed blitz" the boxer and own him/her. İn fact, everyone knows the athlete would lose here without much difficulty, and taking some hits despite simply being faster.

That been said; Naruto is not even used to his movement speed since it came in a short amount of time suddenly instead of developing in time; let alone his striking speed.

Also blitz means hitting multiple times with overwhelming speed...which Naruto haven't done yet.

all i gathered from that was his speed is overrated
 

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no one buys that excuse when mentioning sasuke vs killer bee and the gokage

I suggest you to not bring Sasuke's name in a Naruto thread if you don't want to turn this one into hate-piss contest thread and keep it cool.
 

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no one buys that excuse when mentioning sasuke vs killer bee and the gokage

you had to bring Sasuke up didn't you!?!? xD
no ones talking about Sasuke, and I don't care about your other debates about Sasuke and Bee...

I just gave you my opinion on this subject. not trying to sell you anything....
 
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