What makes EMS Madara>Sasuke?

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[SasukeUchiha910]

sasuke will surpass EMS madara

 

[Bunsofdeath]

Hey How do do u start threads?

 

[Hyakushiki]

Madara has an enormous amount of chakra,his taijutsu and kenjutsu are better,his susanoo is better,his katon is better and he has years of experience on the battlefield,fight after fight,while sasuke had 5 serious fights total in the entire manga - Deidara,Itachi,B,Kages and Danzo.

Deidara got a bad match up with a strong raiton+observing skills,Itachi's case doesn't need explaining,and Danzo...well...Sasuke beat the old man,I give him that.As for kages,he didn't finish any fight.Ran away from Raikage,who would have killed him(dying too,but still...),got help from Zetsu for Mei and would have lost if he hadn't ran away.I'm not saying anything about Orochimaru,for obvious reasons.As for B,he just smashed them to the wall.They went 4 to 1 against him,he beat them up nicely,and then just took off when he saw a chance for it.

I'm not a Sasuke hater,I'm just being objective...I hope.

 

[Bunsofdeath]

I know sasuke still can't beat itachi and if he can't beat him he can't beat madara

 

[Unorthodox]

peoplE are blind as a bat ems sasuke>ems madara i hate when people say that exp what feats has ems madara shown that can beat sasuke and his susanoo is pathetic yea i said it it has been smashed 2x while sasuke hasnt at all and his got armor arrows and amaterasu sword and normal susanoo sword madara only has normal susanoo sword


in for those he says katon amaterasu>beats any style on fire and we can assume kirin>lvl 1 susanoo because itachi jacket was blown to nothing n a arrow could possible plow thru the ribcage of his susanoo

and when has madara used taijutsu? he tryd and tsunade tore him up and theres 0 proof that his has more chakra and madara has no way of dodging amaterasu sasuke wins this med to high diff considering madara hides in susanoo allday

give me a good enuff arguement in say why he beats him sasuke clearly use his ems techs shown to there full abilities so that exp BS is trash and you have to tsukiyomi and amaterasu to have susanoo no sasuke doesnt have tsukiyomi

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genjutsu sharingan not tsukiyomi so that was bs who ever posted that

in for those who say hashi would stomp him how can hashi advoid amaterasu? or susanoo arrows sasuke feats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.madara feats katon will be < by amaterasu sasuke susanoo > madara he has armor and more perks

 

[Anorien16]

Ok let me anylyse the situation:

1. Sasuke gona use amatarasu, but can madara can do so too and probaly can extingiush it too like tobi.
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2.Sasuke gona use genjutsu, seriously madara got ems plus sasuke is not that good.
3. Sasuke gona spam fire and lighning release, sadly madara can use better fire release and may have other natura transformation.
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4. Sasuke gona use susano, but what gona madara do..... what a surprise madara can do it too so it comes to chakra and endurance amount as suano takes both chakra cause pain on a cellular level.
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5. Sasuke gona .... oh wait he has run out of tricks
6. Side notes:
a. Madara has greater chakra, (Kurama said 'not unlike' but that does not mean same
b. Madara has hell lotta experiance and had mastered all sharingan powers. Enough to awaken the rinne. But sasuke just got his ems
c. Madara's susano is huge, works two way and only incomplete version shown.
d. Madara is Madara the first uchiha ever to awaken the MS and reffered to as greatest uchiha ever and the reason why half the fire nations even formed. Pay a little respect man.

This is my observation excluding madara's other powers such as rinnegan, senzu cells and other probable aces up his sleeve. ( He didnt defeat hashirama useing his water pistol u know)

I will add some more points:
1. Amaterasu is very much dodgeable as sasuke himself dodged itachi's plus madara should know when the eyes starts to bleed
2. Amaterasu only burns what it focuses on and burns slowly (and seem to have a little travel time, most ignore that) so can anyone tell me how amaterasu gona hit if one hides or just strips out of his armor (like the samurai guy)
3. if any want proof of madara's high chakra:
a. he was fighting hasi and controlling kurama at the same time
b. though it was in edo mode madara used high level katon, dropped two meteors, created an entire forest, considerably used susano and then created a fair few clones. This gotta take more than lil little chakra, so if we consider madara had half the chakra as a living person its still quite much.

ALSO PLS READ THE LINKS

 

[Unorthodox]

Can anyone add more points?

all his points have maybe in possibly on them theres 0 proof that he can stop amaterasu 0 proof that his has more chakra 0 proof he etc....

 

[Hyakushiki]

You are just a foolish fanboy,aren't you? You want to shove some "chakra metre" up Madara's @ss to measure his amount of chakra? His susanoo can use hand seals to help in jutsu formulas!We are yet to see it in complete form.And you think Madara,I mean the Uchiha Madara can't use a basic MS jutsu like amaterasu,when he progressed so much that he got Rinnegan... At this point of the manga it is clear to any thinking person,that Sasuke can't beat EMS Madara.

 

[Bunsofdeath]

I agree with hyakushiki

 

[Unorthodox]

You are just a foolish fanboy,aren't you? You want to shove some "chakra metre" up Madara's @ss to measure his amount of chakra? His susanoo can use hand seals to help in jutsu formulas!We are yet to see it in complete form.And you think Madara,I mean the Uchiha Madara can't use a basic MS jutsu like amaterasu,when he progressed so much that he got Rinnegan... At this point of the manga it is clear to any thinking person,that Sasuke can't beat EMS Madara.

your a troll stfu sharingan have there own special tech thats like saying anyone can do KA or tobi ghost jutsu so flawd so its still v1 untill the manga says its can do more we dont know will we katon is useless if it come down to a battle of susanoo sasuke>madara

they both havent shown there full power with ems i know that but what we seen sasuke>madara and amaterasu>any other fire tech amaterasu isnt a simple jutsu my friend its a S rank one at the most

 

[Anorien16]

Satisfied now about proofs, unothodox? If not try to convince me how sasuke gona save his skin if he gets amaterasu on him? If u gona say madara cant do that i would advice u to read d bold part of my last post.

 

[Unorthodox]

I will add some more points:
1. Amaterasu is very much dodgeable as sasuke himself dodged itachi's plus madara should know when the eyes starts to bleed
2. Amaterasu only burns what it focuses on and burns slowly (and seem to have a little travel time, most ignore that) so can anyone tell me how amaterasu gona hit if one hides or just strips out of his armor (like the samurai guy)
3. if any want proof of madara's high chakra:
a. he was fighting hasi and controlling kurama at the same time
b. though it was in edo mode madara used high level katon, dropped two meteors, created an entire forest, considerably used susano and then created a fair few clones. This gotta take more than lil little chakra, so if we consider madara had half the chakra as a living person its still quite much.

ALSO PLS READ THE LINKS

amaterasu spawns on the body i hate when people show that fight with him and itachi he let sasuke win put that in bold and sasuke uses amaterasu how will he take his clouths off he cant touch amaterasu or its over and sasuke wont just sit there while he struggling to do all that rather it burns slow or not that samuri man was in extremly pain madara wont have the mind to take off the clouths sasuke will use an arrow and it will be over

 

[sWAy253]

You Sasuke fans just amaze me to think that an ems Sasuke can beat a man who has mastered all forms of the sharingan or else he wouldn't have awakened the rinnegan. The man knows nothing but war and combat, that what he does best. You can't say that he can't do certain things because the manga hasn't shown it yet. You have to use comman sense...it goes along way. To say he is not good in genjutsu because hasn't shown it, is just retarded, to say he isn't better at ama then Sasuke because he hasn't shown that yet either is just crazy."HE HAS MASTERED ALL FORMS OF THE SHARINGAN" or else he wouldn't have awakened the rinnegan. There is no way in the world that ems Sasuke can beat ems Madara who has "MASTERED THE EMS". Like I said commen sense goes along way.

 

[Anorien16]

amaterasu spawns on the body i hate when people show that fight with him and itachi he let sasuke win put that in bold and sasuke uses amaterasu how will he take his clouths off he cant touch amaterasu or its over and sasuke wont just sit there while he struggling to do all that rather it burns slow or not that samuri man was in extremly pain madara wont have the mind to take off the clouths sasuke will use an arrow and it will be over

U got me there but care to explain why madara wld be sitting there without popping up his susano? i dont think him that generous....:shrug: also i m confused if amaterasu spawns on bodies how A was able to dodge it and nagato was able to repel it? Pls enlighten me.

If u want proof of my statement again read my narutopedia links and watch the five kage summit arc.

 

[Anorien16]

You Sasuke fans just amaze me to think that an ems Sasuke can beat a man who has mastered all forms of the sharingan or else he wouldn't have awakened the rinnegan. The man knows nothing but war and combat, that what he does best. You can't say that he can't do certain things because the manga hasn't shown it yet. You have to use comman sense...it goes along way. To say he is not good in genjutsu because hasn't shown it, is just retarded, to say he isn't better at ama then Sasuke because he hasn't shown that yet either is just crazy."HE HAS MASTERED ALL FORMS OF THE SHARINGAN" or else he wouldn't have awakened the rinnegan. There is no way in the world that ems Sasuke can beat ems Madara who has "MASTERED THE EMS". Like I said commen sense goes along way.

sadly my friend common sense is really not that common

 

[naruTOBoI007]

Madara has far more war experience and the EMS longer then Sasuke. And also the first to unlock the MS and EMS.

 

[Unorthodox]

You Sasuke fans just amaze me to think that an ems Sasuke can beat a man who has mastered all forms of the sharingan or else he wouldn't have awakened the rinnegan. The man knows nothing but war and combat, that what he does best. You can't say that he can't do certain things because the manga hasn't shown it yet. You have to use comman sense...it goes along way. To say he is not good in genjutsu because hasn't shown it, is just retarded, to say he isn't better at ama then Sasuke because he hasn't shown that yet either is just crazy."HE HAS MASTERED ALL FORMS OF THE SHARINGAN" or else he wouldn't have awakened the rinnegan. There is no way in the world that ems Sasuke can beat ems Madara who has "MASTERED THE EMS". Like I said commen sense goes along way.

STFU your dumb he masterd all forms of sharingan? so he has KA izanmi izanagi ghost mode bo sharingan have there own special perks if you havent no this is ems madara not ems rinnegan madara so gtfoh with all that mastery BS and if they havent shown it they do not got so i can assume sasuke susanoo has legs cause apperntly to you he has got all forms of the sharingan so we can say jutsu that he hasit shown i dont care for what your talking show me where he used amaterasu and no that isnt comman sense your just thinking

like a troll amaterasu isnt given to everyone who has ms/ems they said ems madara dont bring the rinnegan into this say something that he has shown katon susanoo lvl 1 and yasaka i havent seen 1 post where anybody said how he actually beats sasuke all i seen is he has more exp its madara ahhhhh mann tell me a feat of his that allows him to beat sasuke then ill shutup

U got me there but care to explain why madara wld be sitting there without popping up his susano? i dont think him that generous....:shrug: also i m confused if amaterasu spawns on bodies how A was able to dodge it and nagato was able to repel it? Pls enlighten me.

If u want proof of my statement again read my narutobase links and watch the five kage summit arc.

A used body flicker madara has no speed even comparable to that and a arrow should be able to blow thru a ribcage or crack it as you said amaterasu burns slow and nagato was an edo so he didnt feel the pain so he just used shira tensei its reflex everything thats near/on you

 

[Hyakushiki]

Just leave him in his fanboy world.See the "lord sasuke" under his nick? That is more than enought to me.He will hear no reason.He actually thinks Sasuke's susanoo is better than Madara's...

I was thinking of writing some arguments on Katon being "useless" but it is useless to argue with fanboys...

 

[Anorien16]

Now now i m gona lose my temper too, cos how long have i been saying read my narutopedia links? Madara can use amaterasu as said both in narutopedia and databook which clearly states u need both tsukiomy and amaterasu to activate susano. Also if an arrow breaks a ribcage so can a yakasha magmata brak sasuke's susano. Also Shira tensei deflects everything AROUND u, not ON u plus shinobis are more than capable of tolerating pain as many were stabbed, burned, exploded, pierced etc but none protested much.