What Madara REALLY said about Hashirama

Did he mean Hashirama is stronger than his current Edo form?


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Traffy

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True, which is why as I said before, you gotta read the whole sentence in order to understand it well.
Like I said, the fact that he says Hashirama is no longer with them instead of saying even Hashirama wont be able to stop him now suggests Hashirama could stop him even now.

I agree too, that's the only part I'm hung up on. But the fact that he says, "And he is no longer with us" stands out for me. If he had said, "But he is no longer with us" then I might see it. The "and" is the thing that makes the big difference, I don't infer from that "and" that he's saying that if he was here, he might stand a chance.

But logically speaking, if Hashi could barely defeat Madara when he had EMS, it doesn't make any sense that he could defeat hhim now that he's been eleveated byond his prime and with the rinnegan.
 

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madara speaks like he was this strong in life which he was because both edo and ems madara share the same full power. as long as madara has perfect susano as his full power, hashirama will always be able to beat him since he beat perfect susano before. he also says that the landscape would be affected as drastically with only one of them around.
 

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TheSages456, I knew you would post your usual crap, and honestly, you didn't let me down.

Rinnegan + Mokuton + Unlimited chakra + Immortal body > Perfect Susanoo. You just mad cause your hero isn't as strong as you tried to make out LMAO.
 

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TheSages456, I knew you would post your usual crap, and honestly, you didn't let me down.

Rinnegan + Mokuton + Unlimited chakra + Immortal body > Perfect Susanoo. You just mad cause your hero isn't as strong as you tried to make out LMAO.
edo madara stated himself that perfect susano was his full power but keep failing. your posts always make me laugh.
 

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I agree too, that's the only part I'm hung up on. But the fact that he says, "And he is no longer with us" stands out for me. If he had said, "But he is no longer with us" then I might see it. The "and" is the thing that makes the big difference, I don't infer from that "and" that he's saying that if he was here, he might stand a chance.

But logically speaking, if Hashi could barely defeat Madara when he had EMS, it doesn't make any sense that he could defeat hhim now that he's been eleveated byond his prime and with the rinnegan.

Well look at this way. Even with all his power ups P.S is still his greatest weapon and Hashi presumably countered it. So if Hashi can stop P.S, he stands a chance, or better yet he has a better chance of beating Edo Madara than anyone I can think off.
 

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edo madara stated himself that perfect susano was his full power but keep failing. your posts always make me laugh.

Says the guy who said Hashirama would solo Naruto + Sasuke with low difficulty. LMAO you're such a fanboy.
 

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well you have the definition oof could and ever explain it to me then smart guy haha

'Could' and 'ever' being used together in a sentence like that is obviously relating to past experiences.
 

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you buddy already crawled away i siggest you do the same cuz you look foolish not being able to accept whats infront of you

could ( possible )

ever ( anytime )

you say its confusing but its not

only hashirama could ever beat me


hashirama possible anytime coud beat me and last time i check anytime ( ever ) includes now as he is talking unless your suggestime time stoped so anytime doesnt include now cuz time doesnt exist anymoe

Could also means: At one time.

"Only Hashirama could ever stop me." You know why he says this? Because Hashi did stop him, when he was alive and not an edo. But as an edo, he's much more powerful and stronger than when he was alive.

TouchMyMangos said it perfectly, "Rinnegan + Mokuton + Unlimited chakra + Immortal body". These are all the things he has now that he didn't when he fought Hashi. Add in P.S. and do you still think that Hashi can stand a chance against him?
 

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'Could' and 'ever' being used together in a sentence like that is obviously relating to past experiences.

haha no explaination at all thats what i thought

explain how the word ever would be used to idicate only back then but not now
 

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ems madara+complete kyuubi>ems sasuke+50%kyuubi

LMAO you will never be taken seriously on this forum again.

haha no explaination at all thats what i thought

explain how the word ever would be used to idicate only back then but not now

Read it to yourself 10 times then come back to me. I don't even see how people are havin problems gettin this.
 

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Well look at this way. Even with all his power ups P.S is still his greatest weapon and Hashi presumably countered it. So if Hashi can stop P.S, he stands a chance, or better yet he has a better chance of beating Edo Madara than anyone I can think off.

P.S. is his greatest weapon but when you add in other things like Rinnegan + Mokuton + Unlimited chakra + Immortal body, that just seems like too much for Hashi, don't you think? If he has all these things than Hashi won't have the same amount of strength and energy to face P.S. like he had before.
 

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Could also means: At one time.

"Only Hashirama could ever stop me." You know why he says this? Because Hashi did stop him, when he was alive and not an edo. But as an edo, he's much more powerful and stronger than when he was alive.

TouchMyMangos said it perfectly, "Rinnegan + Mokuton + Unlimited chakra + Immortal body". These are all the things he has now that he didn't when he fought Hashi. Add in P.S. and do you still think that Hashi can stand a chance against him?

you keep trying to focus on could the try and twist whats said but ill say the same thing to you

explain in what context the word ever would be used to explain only then bu not now when the word ever means anytime , continuously
 

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LMAO you will never be taken seriously on this forum again.



Read it to yourself 10 times then come back to me. I don't even see how people are havin problems gettin this.
again madara talks like he was always this strong in life which he was since he always had perfect susano. he also acts like the outcome would change if hashirama were around.
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again madara talks like he was always this strong in life which he was since he always had perfect susano. he also acts like the outcome would change if hashirama were around.
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LMAO leave just leave Mr.Hashirama beats Naruto & Sasuke together with low difficulty. If Hashi were here it would be 5 Kages + Hashi, so obv there wud be a difference.
 

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P.S. is his greatest weapon but when you add in other things like Rinnegan + Mokuton + Unlimited chakra + Immortal body, that just seems like too much for Hashi, don't you think? If he has all these things than Hashi won't have the same amount of strength and energy to face P.S. like he had before.

Yea thats the thing. Unlimited chakra + immortal body wont mean a thing if he gets sealed. And as for the rinnegan, we've only seen him use preta path which I suspect is useless against mokuton. And the last time they fought Madara had the kyubi. He wont have that now.
 

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LMAO you will never be taken seriously on this forum again.



Read it to yourself 10 times then come back to me. I don't even see how people are havin problems gettin this.

cant answer eh so you just try to avoid so ill ask again

explain what context the word ever would be used to refer to something that could then but not now a word that means

ever , anytime , continuosly


explain how any of those mean then but not now


i bet you avoid it again cuz you cant answer
 
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