What Madara REALLY said about Hashirama

[megallica]

I think he means that Hashirama is the only one that ever rivalled him, the only one that could beat him, not that he would beat him now.

^agree

 

[Exaar]

It sounds like madara was talking in Past-Tense.

Meaning back when they both were alive hashirama was the only person who could stop him, This makes far more sense than madara saying hashirama could defeat him currently.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

It sounds like madara was talking in Past-Tense.

Meaning back when they both were alive hashirama was the only person who could stop him, This makes far more sense than madara saying hashirama could defeat him currently.

Yes, I hope this clears up alot of misconceptions.

 

[KAGE RYUU]

what all the could crap im hearing

if he said hashirama can beat him he is saying if he was alive he can do it whenever he wants can means he can not maybe he can

could means maybe meaning he has the tolls to do it but im stronger now so he may not be able to anymore

like he could beat me it is possible but i doubt it

 

[Exaar]

Yes, I hope this clears up alot of misconceptions.

This will.

So many people claim hashirama is the strongest aside the sage, and use the other scan to prove he > edo madara.

That one quote from madara made people overrate the hell out of him, it was really annoying.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

what all the could crap im hearing

if he said hashirama can beat him he is saying if he was alive he can do it whenever he wants can means he can not maybe he can

could means maybe meaning he has the tolls to do it but im stronger now so he may not be able to anymore

like he could beat me it is possible but i doubt it

U sound mad. Edo Madara >> Hashirama.

 

[ismael]

He means only Hashirama is the only Shinobi who can hope to defeat him, but at his current state Hashirama can't defeat him it's only Madara underestimate his on power when it comes to Hashirama.

But what if hashirama is stronger than him even in his current state :shrug: i don't think madara's wood style is near hashirama's level so it's back again to sharingan vs wood style and guess who wins ? HASHIRAMA

 

[Traffy]

what all the could crap im hearing

if he said hashirama can beat him he is saying if he was alive he can do it whenever he wants can means he can not maybe he can

could means maybe meaning he has the tolls to do it but im stronger now so he may not be able to anymore

like he could beat me it is possible but i doubt it

You can hear typed up words?

 

[KAGE RYUU]

U sound mad. Edo Madara >> Hashirama.

whats there to be mad about im jus clarifying this could can can talk

can as in you can go to the store meaning if you want you can go

so if mdara said he can beat me that means without a doubt he can do it

could means madara this he is strong enough to win now so he is saying he could still possible do it

weither madara or hashi is better i couldnt care less they are both boss

 

[TouchMyMangos]

what there to be made about im jus clarifying this could can can talk

can as in you can go to the store meaning if you want you can go

so if mdara said he can beat me that means without a doubt he can do it

could means madara this he is strong enough to win now so he is saying he could still possible do it

weither madara or hashi is better i couldnt care less they are both boss

'could ever'. He obviously talking about when they were alive.

 

[Exaar]

But what if hashirama is stronger than him even in his current state :shrug: i don't think madara's wood style is near hashirama's level so it's back again to sharingan vs wood style and guess who wins ? HASHIRAMA

IF hashirama is stronger than Edo madara, then hashirama would of defeated him/killed him along time ago, maybe befor he even got EMS.

since they fought many time, yet one could not kill the other.

 

[FahadFareed]

madara has hashirama's dna,undying body,no wound,unlimited chakra,rinnengan,and even his jutsus.this madara is far more powerful than the old one.i don't think hashirama will stand a chance against edo-madara.

 

[Midday]

I hope this clears up a lot of the "Hashirama > Edo Madara".

 

[TouchMyMangos]

I hope this clears up a lot of the "Hashirama > Edo Madara".

Hopefully, but I doubt it.

 

[KAGE RYUU]

'could ever'. He obviously talking about when they were alive.

can.....could.....can't

madara is alive and talking about himself right now

hashirama can beat me ----- means he can even now

hashirama could beat me ----- meaning i think i would win but he could possible still win

hashirama can't beat me - meaning hashirama cannot do it in his opinion

you sound mad bro are you mad that madara acknowledged that even being an edo with hashi dna and rinnegan madara still know not to underestimate hashi and he could still do it if he gets an opening

madara know everything about hashi and edo and himself so knowing all this he would have said

even hashirama cant beat me anymore but he didnt he said he could

 

[TouchMyMangos]

can.....could.....can't

madara is alive and talking about himself right now

hashirama can beat me ----- means he can even now

hashirama could beat me ----- meaning i think i would win but he could possible still win

hashirama can't beat me - meaning hashirama cannot do it in his opinion

you sound mad bro are you mad that madara acknowledged that even being an edo with hashi dna and rinnegan madara still know not to underestimate hashi and he could still do it if he gets an opening

madara know everything about hashi and edo and himself so knowing all this he would have said

even hashirama cant beat me anymore but he didnt he said he could

No, he is NOT talking about himself now, that's the thing. the 'ever' part shows us he was talking about during his entire life and all the opponents he ever fought, not him as an Edo. Current Madara would crush Hashirama.

 

[Shikamaru1994]

I interpret it as "only Hashirama has the chance to stop me"

^This.

 

[Traffy]

can.....could.....can't

madara is alive and talking about himself right now

hashirama can beat me ----- means he can even now

hashirama could beat me ----- meaning i think i would win but he could possible still win

hashirama can't beat me - meaning hashirama cannot do it in his opinion

you sound mad bro are you mad that madara acknowledged that even being an edo with hashi dna and rinnegan madara still know not to underestimate hashi and he could still do it if he gets an opening

madara know everything about hashi and edo and himself so knowing all this he would have said

even hashirama cant beat me anymore but he didnt he said he could

He didn't say can't because he's explaining to the Kages who was the only person who could beat him. Why would he say, "Hashirama can't beat me" when he's been beaten by him in the the past. He's saying could because it's past tense, because Hashi was the only one who could beat him before but not anymore.

 

[Orochimagus]

Break it down, kiddies. If he specifically said "ever", it can apply to then and now. The fact he also mentioned that Hashirama is gone means that he'd stand a chance if he was still around. Remember Hashirama knew all about the technique because his brother invented it. This is why Orochimaru took full control of them even though he could not use their full power: Hashirama and Tobirama could cancel out Impure World Resurrection like Madara did.

 

[KAGE RYUU]

No, he is NOT talking about himself now, that's the thing. the 'ever' part shows us he was talking about during his entire life and all the opponents he ever fought, not him as an Edo. Current Madara would crush Hashirama.

your indenial bro you got all up on edo madara syndrom

ever as in forever could ever none of that indicates past

ev·er
   [ev-er] Show IPA
adverb
1.
at all times; always: an ever-present danger; He is ever ready to find fault.
2.
continuously:
3.
at any time: Have you ever seen anything like it?
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do you understand ever now

madara admited on his own hashi still could win if he gets an opening

you mad madara know hashi could still be him?