What is more dangerous, marijuana or alchohol?

[squigles]

Ok so I think this can make a great discussion. What do you think is more dangerous of the two. And I have another question, why is alcohol legal if it kills tons of people(intoxication, drunk driving), and marijuana illegal if people rarely die smoking it?

Alcohol is by far the most dangerous substance in terms of deaths due to people being negligent while under the influence.

In terms of deaths due to alcohol consumption on the body, it's second, behind tobacco.

Marijuana has never been responsible for death while under the influence or death because of bodily harm because of the effects of Marijuana.

Alcohol is legal because lawmakers decided to give it a pass after Prohibition. Marijuana is not legal atm because no lawmakers dare to construct legislation for it at the federal level, even though legalizing, regulating, taxing, and producing Marijuana is in the best interest of everyone.

It's just lazy and/or fearful lawmakers. In my state a year ago, they were trying to pass laws to legalize it, but no one knew it was happening, so it failed in the polls.

 

[CJ Mac]

Alcohol is definitely more dangerous. It is related to more deaths each year than any other addictive substance. Furthermore, it has been linked to a significant amount of all types of violent crime (ie. rape, murder, assault, etc.). On the other hand, marijuana has not been shown to be a contributing factor to anything except for a chemically induced urge to eat.

The reason that both have their current legal statuses and social reputations/stigmas is largely political. The production of alcohol is and always has been an extremely profitable business and its proponents are heavily embedded within American politics. Alternatively, marijuana (and other drugs) have been on the receiving end of numerous negative campaigns from the "Just Say 'NO'" campaign of Nacy Reagan in the 1980s to the war on drugs in the 1990s and today. Furthermore, marijuana is heavily opposed by certain industries in the United States since it can be easily produced and is seen as a potential threat to the profitability of other products such as tobacco.

 

[Black Adam]

Lol just the fact you brought this up on 4/20

What's Adolf Hitler's birthdate have to do with it?....:shrug:

OT: Clearly you're going to get a lot of bias towards alcohol both substances are not going to affect two different people the same I personally do not like the way cannabis makes me feel which is lethargic, moronic, and paranoid just to name a few. I don't want to fight people when I drink nor do I think I should get behind the wheel of a car under the influence I know my limit with alcohol and I know that I'm limiting myself with weed.

*side note beer saved the world what has weed done for it lately?...

 

[Yo pappy]

Alcohol is much, much worse than marijuana. The consumption of alcohol has killed hundreds of thousands of people, and it continues to do so on a daily basis. Marijuana on the other hand has never killed anyone directly. It's just that it receives bad rep from the media, and people don't bother to seek the truth. Hell, half of America still thinks it's a drug. You can smoke weed all day and be just fine, but I if you try to do that with anything over the counter at a drug store you'll be finished faster than the first time you had ***.

The only real reason Marijuana is illegal is because it cannot be taxed, at least not easily. It's hard to tax something everyone and anyone can grow in their backyard. But people grow food in their backyard, and that's not illegal either. I think if some of the people in office put their heads together they would realize that it can be done, because the fact is that people are willing to pay for convenience. If a pot-head had the choice to wait six months for his Sativa to grow or go to the store and buy one, he'd go to the damn store.

 

[Mante]

Both are deadly.
But i this marijuana is more deadly

 

[RAMENATOR]

Regarding #5, every atmosphere is a social one if someone else is there (that's just how it is). Honestly, I think what you're meaning to say is that if you're in a situation where you're doing something semi-important, dangerous, or have some form of obligation you shouldn't be using anything that would result in an altered state of mind.

That's a bit out of context. By "social" I mean exactly that: activities specifically designed for social interaction. Yes, anytime you're interacting with other humans it's a "social" interaction, but not necessarily a social atmosphere. Have you ever heard of a social drinker? That doesn't mean they drink every time they "socialize." It means they drink at social events or on occasion (in moderation).

Since I already stated that Marijuana impairs people in quite a similar way as alcohol, it's a given that the same stipulations and restrictions should be applied (Not: using it at work, while operating heavy machinery, while driving, handling firearms/weapons, performing tasks that require deep concentration, mixing it with other substances, smoking in excess, smoking to the point of impairment and going out in public, performing dangerous or high-risk activities, etc...).

Henceforth, to avoid confusion, "social atmosphere" shall be defined as any location or event where the primary function is to socialize with other human beings in a non-work capacity and where the consumption of alcoholic beverages are normally consumed. Examples: Parties, clubs, private dwellings (homes), gatherings, or similar activities.

 

[Itachi2304]

My god.... ok i cannot believe people are actually saying weed doesnt have any consequences.... jesus christ. The reason why alcohol kills more people is because it is legalized while weed isnt. Had weed been legalized then you would see people operating motor vehicles while smoking weed. One of the first symptoms of smoking weed is poor motor skills. therefore, you would see people dying left right and center because of weed. People are just butthurt cause they want weed legalized. want my opinion? BOTH weed AND alcohol should be illegalized completely. If weed were legalized you would see just as many deaths from it as you see from alcohol now. Alcohol has a bigger death toll than both heroine AND cocaine. Who in their right mind would argue that alcohol is more harmful than cocaine and heroin? death rate doesnt mean shit in this kind of situation. It isnt a unit to measure which is worse in this situation. If cocaine marijuana and heroine were to be legalized you would see people dropping dead everywhere.

 

[x9lb babynaruto]

Weed is alot less harmful than alcohol yet it is illegal. Stupid
1.Many people die from alcohol use. Nobody dies from marijuana use.
2.People die from alcohol overdoses. There has never been a fatal marijuana overdose.
3.The health-related costs associated with alcohol use far exceed those for marijuana use.
4.Alcohol use damages the brain. Marijuana use does not
5.Alcohol use is linked to cancer. Marijuana use is not
6.Alcohol is more addictive than marijuana
7.Alcohol use increases the risk of injury to the consumer. Marijuana use does not.
8.Alcohol use contributes to aggressive and violent behavior. Marijuana use does not
9.Alcohol use is a major factor in violent crimes. Marijuana use is not
10.Alcohol use contributes to the likelihood of domestic abuse and sexual assault. Marijuana use does not.

If you’re like most Americans, you have been led to believe that marijuana is a dangerous and addictive drug that has destroyed the lives of millions of teens and adults. You have been encouraged to believe that marijuana causes lung cancer and is a “gateway” to harder drugs. The government has even tried to convince you that most people who use marijuana are losers who sit around on couches all day doing nothing. Marijuana has just been tabooed.

 

[Yo pappy]

My god.... ok i cannot believe people are actually saying weed doesnt have any consequences.... jesus christ. The reason why alcohol kills more people is because it is legalized while weed isnt. Had weed been legalized then you would see people operating motor vehicles while smoking weed. One of the first symptoms of smoking weed is poor motor skills. therefore, you would see people dying left right and center because of weed. People are just butthurt cause they want weed legalized. want my opinion? BOTH weed AND alcohol should be illegalized completely. If weed were legalized you would see just as many deaths from it as you see from alcohol now. Alcohol has a bigger death toll than both heroine AND cocaine. Who in their right mind would argue that alcohol is more harmful than cocaine and heroin? death rate doesnt mean shit in this kind of situation. It isnt a unit to measure which is worse in this situation. If cocaine marijuana and heroine were to be legalized you would see people dropping dead everywhere.

What in the blue hell are you talking about? For one, weed isn't like alcohol in the sense that it's consumption doesn't affect everyone the same way. We all know what's going to happen if you drink too much alcohol, and get behind the steering wheel. That's as plain as day. Weed on the other hand depending on the person can be very relaxing, and help certain people drive even better. In fact, numerous athletic commissions across the States have banned weed entirely as it is considered an enhancer! People aren't "butthurt" because it cannot be legalized, people are pissed because they now know enough to realize that it shouldn't be illegal. If anyone has died of weed is because the means of coming across it aren't always the safest, and it's illegal. Not it's consumption.

Weed can have negative effects on certain individuals, but it's up to the individual to come to terms with themselves on how it affects them, and whether or not they are fully capable of operating a vehicle while high. Unlike alcohol, you should never have to ask yourself whether or not you should drive drunk, you just don't do it.

 

[wabbling69]

marijuana is a drug just like alcohol is a drug. they both affect people in either good or bad ways, alcohol really only gives you bad side affects. marijuana on the other hand can do many things! it can release stress and release pain from your body. it can help you sleep and help you keep food down. i am a 36 year old man, im a local school teacher and i smoke weed every day. i do it to relieve my ptsd so i can sleep at night. oh yeah i was in the irag war. so it should be made medical in all states. pot is okay to smoke. its not so bad as everyone claims it to be

 

[BlueSpartan2]

getting rid of both would be ideal in my perspective but honestly i dont think there is a sh!t chance in the world of that happening but limiting them to non-execive amounts would be better and best way to do that is education, first-hand experience, will power, and abstinence(from alchohol and marajuana).

 

[Sabuto Hayashi]

Of course, alcohol is the most dangerous of the two, but they're both pointless to me.
Drinking, drugs; why bother? You don't need them to live a good life, imo.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

Hahaha well my friend.......*takes hit of bowl*
That's quite simple *blows out smoke*

 

[phantomlord22]

they both are the same shit

 

[Black Adam]

Alcohol is much, much worse than marijuana. The consumption of alcohol has killed hundreds of thousands of people, and it continues to do so on a daily basis.1. Marijuana on the other hand has never killed anyone directly. It's just that it receives bad rep from the media, and people don't bother to seek the truth. 2.Hell, half of America still thinks it's a drug. You can smoke weed all day and be just fine, but I if you try to do that with anything over the counter at a drug store you'll be finished faster than the first time you had ***.
1.speculative at best.
2.it is in the broadest of the term but it still is.

3.The only real reason Marijuana is illegal is because it cannot be taxed, at least not easily. It's hard to tax something everyone and anyone can grow in their backyard. 4.But people grow food in their backyard, and that's not illegal either. I think if some of the people in office put their heads together they would realize that it can be done, because the fact is that people are willing to pay for convenience. 5.If a pot-head had the choice to wait six months for his Sativa to grow or go to the store and buy one, he'd go to the damn store.

3.actually there are a myriad of reasons and who's to say their all true.
4.tell me your not really comparing the growing of food something EVERYBODY needs to pot something that only a miniscule portion genuinely need. good job.
5.isn't this statement sort of contradictory to the belief that pot isn't addictive?.....

That's a bit out of context. By "social" I mean exactly that: activities specifically designed for social interaction. Yes, anytime you're interacting with other humans it's a "social" interaction, but not necessarily a social atmosphere. Have you ever heard of a social drinker? That doesn't mean they drink every time they "socialize." It means they drink at social events or on occasion (in moderation).

Since I already stated that Marijuana impairs people in quite a similar way as alcohol, it's a given that the same stipulations and restrictions should be applied (Not: using it at work, while operating heavy machinery, while driving, handling firearms/weapons, performing tasks that require deep concentration, mixing it with other substances, smoking in excess, smoking to the point of impairment and going out in public, performing dangerous or high-risk activities, etc...).

Henceforth, to avoid confusion, "social atmosphere" shall be defined as any location or event where the primary function is to socialize with other human beings in a non-work capacity and where the consumption of alcoholic beverages are normally consumed. Examples: Parties, clubs, private dwellings (homes), gatherings, or similar activities.

well said plus rep

What in the blue hell are you talking about? For one, weed isn't like alcohol in the sense that it's consumption doesn't affect everyone the same way. We all know what's going to happen if you drink too much alcohol, and get behind the steering wheel. That's as plain as day. Weed on the other hand depending on the person can be very relaxing, and 6..help certain people drive even better. In fact, numerous athletic commissions across the States have banned weed entirely as it is considered an enhancer! People aren't "butthurt" because it cannot be legalized, people are pissed because they now know enough to realize that it shouldn't be illegal. 6.If anyone has died of weed is because the means of coming across it aren't always the safest, and it's illegal. Not it's consumption.

Weed can have negative effects on certain individuals, but it's up to the individual to come to terms with themselves on how it affects them, and whether or not they are fully capable of operating a vehicle while high. Unlike alcohol, you should never have to ask yourself whether or not you should drive drunk, you just don't do it.

6.not so fast I can send links where drivers were as shit and mowed people down
7.did you want those links?

8.getting rid of both would be ideal in my perspective but honestly i dont think there is a sh!t chance in the world of that happening but limiting them to non-execive amounts would be better and best way to do that is education, first-hand experience, will power, and abstinence(from alchohol and marajuana).

8.Getting rid of alcohol was tried guess what it led us down one of the worst economic collapses our country has ever faced soooo...it really wouldn't be......ideal.....:shrug:

Look people I'm not lobbying for alcohol but by judging from content of all of the posts you all make it seem like the only way to enjoy alcohol is to abuse it until you're lying in a puddle of your own piss and puke not true.

Listen you're all free to pursue your happiness however you see fit whether it be at the end of a bottle or bong is your choice just be safe night NB.:scorps:

 

[squigles]

My god.... ok i cannot believe people are actually saying weed doesnt have any consequences.... jesus christ. The reason why alcohol kills more people is because it is legalized while weed isnt. Had weed been legalized then you would see people operating motor vehicles while smoking weed. One of the first symptoms of smoking weed is poor motor skills. therefore, you would see people dying left right and center because of weed. People are just butthurt cause they want weed legalized. want my opinion? BOTH weed AND alcohol should be illegalized completely. If weed were legalized you would see just as many deaths from it as you see from alcohol now. Alcohol has a bigger death toll than both heroine AND cocaine. Who in their right mind would argue that alcohol is more harmful than cocaine and heroin? death rate doesnt mean shit in this kind of situation. It isnt a unit to measure which is worse in this situation. If cocaine marijuana and heroine were to be legalized you would see people dropping dead everywhere.

Marijuana isn't harmful because it doesn't impair your ability to make judgements, it doesn't impair your motor skills, and it doesn't impair your hand-eye coordination or your reaction times.

Many many many people who smoke weed ALSO do other things while under the influence of it, such as drive, work, socialize, other recreational activities, and even operate heavy machinery.

Only a moron who's never smoked weed before would say that it has the same negative effects as alcohol. The major difference between weed and alcohol is that your body builds up a tolerance to weed, which keeps you from getting 'more high.' You can smoke a joint or an ounce, and the most that will happen is you get tired and want to go to sleep. You won't notice the difference between smoking a joint and smoking an ounce.

With alcohol, the more you drink, the drunker you get, the more likely you are to black out, puke, pass out, and even die from alcohol poisoning. None of those things happen with weed.

So please stop spouting off nonsense.

 

[Infinite Mizu]

Marijuana or Alchohol ai?.. They both suck >.>

 

[TheLOLRoller]

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[Raiyukai Sakashi]

they both exceptionally suck

no, they both actually rock:scorps::scorps

 

[pukecake]

Some simple fun facts:

-Weed has never killed someone, alcohol kills thousands a year.

-To take an overdose of weed, you have to at least smoke 3000$ worth of weed at ONCE, wich is pretty damn impossible if you ask me.

-Weed is not physically addictive, but it can be mentally.

-Weed does not get you psychotic, only if you already have authism, or another mental disortion.

-Weed was 40 years ago the most grown crop in the USA, you can use it medicinal, use it as fiber to make clothes or rope, there are even studies who state there is a way how marijuana can heal cancer.

-The only side-effects on short term are hunger,and the will to sleep.

-weed isn't a drug, it's a plant