What if science worked like religion?

[Natsu Shazneel]

Is there even any religion in the world that allows rape? Such a stupid claim.

Rapist have a very low mentality of the humans they rape. There is simply no religion that can entice such people to do the acts they do. If anyone has talked to a real rapist would know what I mean.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Maybe you should stop using your computer, internet and your phone. They are all real because of science.

I'm just glorifying people who are ready to look for answers through experimentations and different point of views. Ofcourse there are unsolved question, but atleast they are working on them. Unlike religion which has 0 evidence.

How religion will take the center stage of action in today societies if the one who control the world right now is very hard to say here either atheist or not following their religious teaching 100%. Thats the problem today.

You want to see how religion lead but will you or the people at the center stage of power today allow? Look at USA itself.

But Islam is not the only religion inside this world, US is majority Christian, China is Buddha. If your POV was on Islam only, you will not get a chance to see Islam lead the world. But as of right now it was Christian religion.

And the topic f this thread is general: What if science worked like religion?

 

[Hawker]

See this post:

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Majority of religious people are born into a certain religion. So that fact alone makes your comment pretty much invalid.

And thus they get labeled as something even though they have no ability of thinking for themselves. They are NOT allowed to make a choice. They are brainwashed as soon as they pop out into this world. The most importan time for a childs develeopment cognitive-wise and emotional-wise, are the first five years. It's the time you are most prone to receive information and base your thinking process on that. It has much to do with how you will become in the future.

There was no people getting rape bcus of faith especially if you talking about Islam(and yes it was). Sure there are Muslim that commit rape action but most of people that done the raping actually not following Islamic teaching very well at all. I'm from Malaysia a Muslim majority country but most of my fellow Muslim that do the raping crime actually never follow the true Islamic teaching. How you can called bcus of faith they did all the raping?

And no women/man get stoned to the death in Muslim countries bcus they do illegal/unmarriage ***. Hudud(Islamic punishment law) is optional in Islamic country and not compulsory/obligatory in Islam.

Look, either the problem with raping is cultural or it isn't. If it is then the culture either approves of rape or allows it. It's simple. Why do you think in Egypt (majority religion being Islam) 99,3% of women have suffered from sexual harrasment?

 

[Made in Heaven]

And you think that implies what, exactly? That evolution isnt true? Lol

You have to study the science to understand it,and you dont get to decide what falsifies one theory or what doesnt, thats the qualified person(scientist's job).

'In the end im left with no proof that letters ever display any intrinsic numeric tendency, but only ever linguistic ones. Therefore equating them with numbers is a lie, and all of algebra is false'.

^^ Sorry, that logic does'nt work.

Yes, actually. How am I supposed to believe the primitive single cell eventually became things such as humans and bears and lizards (who have more info in them) if no info can be added.

I've studied some of it, naturally. Obviously, this is my own conclusion, just as you've drawn a conclusion despite not knowing everything on said subjects.

You mention that only a qualified person can make a judgement on a subject they are knowledgeable in, yet just a few hours ago you were acting like you knew what Islam is and isn't despite being an atheist.

Except I've seen algebra, on the other hand, I nor anyone else have ever seen info being added to anything through mutations.

 

[Insidious Smile]

And I will continue to have a problem with religion s long as there are innocent people stoned to death because of faith. As long as there are people raped because of faith. As long as there is terrorism because of faith. You get the picture.

You are one sad individual. And you won't change anything, you should know that much.

 

[ComplexCity]

Read it, or better yet open a 10th grade biology school textbook, or read up on evolution (from scientific sources) and decide for yourself. Its also a shock to see that your lot consider a professor of biology from the University of Oxford(a very credible place, if you know anything about education) to not be credible, despite being an expert in his field, due to ONE question asked by someone with clearly ulterior and biased motives and his subsequent silence as 'proof' that the questioner and his question were, in fact, credible. As for my link, it spells it out more or less, see the problem with creationists and their arguments is that 'credible' scientists and studies dont take them seriously enough to answer their specific(read: misleading and deliberately distorted ) questions.

I asked because I'm at work I'll take a look over it though

 

[Ansatsuken]

Majority of religious people are born into a certain religion. So that fact alone makes your comment pretty much invalid.

And thus they get labeled as something even though they have no ability of thinking for themselves. They are NOT allowed to make a choice. They are brainwashed as soon as they pop out into this world. The most importan time for a childs develeopment cognitive-wise and emotional-wise, are the first five years. It's the time you are most prone to receive information and base your thinking process on that. It has much to do with how you will become in the future.



Look, either the problem with raping is cultural or it isn't. If it is then the culture either approves of rape or allows it. It's simple. Why do you think in Egypt (majority religion being Islam) 99,3% of women have suffered from sexual harrasment?

It bow down to how strong the Aqidah of Muslim men there. Their Aqidah is weak if that much harassment occurred.

Aqidah (Arabic: عقيدة‎, plural Arabic: عقائد‎, ʿaqāʾid, also sometimes spelled Aqeeda, ʿAqīdah or ʿAqīda) is an Islamic term meaning creed. Many Schools of Islamic Theology expressing different views on aqidah exist. Any religious belief system, or creed, can be considered an example of aqidah. However, this term has taken a significant technical usage in Muslim history and theology, denoting those matters over which Muslims hold conviction. It is a branch of Islamic studies describing the beliefs of the Islamic faith.

Literally, the word ʿaqīdah is derived from the triconsonantal root ʿqd (ʿaqada), which means "to tie" or "knot"

Not bcus of their Islamic faith/believe where Islam prohibit/ban any unmarried sexual action.

Also care to show me the source of you statistic?

 

[Hawker]

You are one sad individual. And you won't change anything, you should know that much.

It's sad to think stoning innocent people is wrong and barbaric? Okay

I won't but we will. I'm not alone in this. That's why atheists over the world make people question their stance on religion.

 

[KingForever7]

An interesting Article about Rape culture and Islam (with some statistics included)

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[Made in Heaven]

Look, either the problem with raping is cultural or it isn't. If it is then the culture either approves of rape or allows it. It's simple. Why do you think in Egypt (majority religion being Islam) 99,3% of women have suffered from sexual harrasment?

An interesting Article about Rape culture and Islam (with some statistics included)

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Exactly how stupid does one need to be in order to genuinely believe that a religion that supposedly allows sexual abuse also attracts dozens upon dozens of woman?

 

[ComplexCity]

Science has presented more answers in life than religion has.

That's for sure :sdo:

Both are different in their fields so I don't know why they are being compared anyway. This statement is fallacious :|

 

[Umari Senju]

So you're saying religious people can't be intelligent? Oh lawd

The irony

Extreme irony at that...since many scientist follow any particular religion. They delve into the realm of science when their faith can't answer those burning questions which they can explore. But for every find more questions arise.

When people realize that science and faith go hand and hand maybe we can stop having these ridiculing threads that do nothing more than make people angry.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I think this base is not the proper place to discuss and solve this misinformations. Only face to face it will. Thats how it should work

 

[Insidious Smile]

It's sad to think stoning innocent people is wrong and barbaric? Okay

I won't but we will. I'm not alone in this. That's why atheists over the world make people question their stance on religion.

You can think whatever you want as it is not a crime to think.

What are atheists doing to prevent "innocent" human beings from being stone to death? Tell me.

Making some one question their stance in religion will not change the way an individual thinks. Human beings tend to forget or not pay attention to things they have little interest in.

 

[ComplexCity]

I'll respond to your post Hawked in detail when I get time. Because it's pretty flawed

 

[Hawker]

Exactly how stupid does one need to be in order to genuinely believe that a religion that supposedly allows sexual abuse also attracts dozens upon dozens of woman?

Well if the penalty for apostasy is death, then can you really blame women for not leaving? lol

Hundreds of generations of women have been taught by islam that they are lesser than men, that they have to cover themself up, that they don't have as much rights as men. They have been oppressed to the point where they think they actually don't have rights. It's called inferiority complex.

 

[KingForever7]

When people realize that science and faith go hand and hand maybe we can stop having these ridiculing threads that do nothing more than make people angry.

Jesus turning water into wine goes hand in hand with Science ???

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[Ansatsuken]

Well if the penalty for apostasy is death, then can you really blame women for not leaving? lol

Hundreds of generations of women have been taught by islam that they are lesser than men, that they have to cover themself up, that they don't have as much rights as men. They have been oppressed to the point where they think they actually don't have rights. It's called inferiority complex.

Covered or not women is still look as second class. China for example or Japan. And its clear as the day but Muslim women never said anything in public(if happen care to show me the article) about being oppressed bcus they covered all their body and they willing to do so actually.

 

[Umari Senju]

Jesus turning water into wine goes hand in hand with Science ???

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So what if science found that Jesus was able to do this through scientific means that seemed like magic back then. You go on the assumption that everything written in the bible(or any religious literature) is supposed to be taken literally. They are metaphor-stories which are told in order to give those who are lost in life a sense of understanding, hope that there is something greater at work in the universe. Even scientist believe this.they teach lessons such as be kind to your fellow man and so forth. It is man who interperates them in obscure ways and in some cases, uses them toward evil means. It is not the religion at fault but how mankind perceives those lessons.

You do science no favor by dismissing that which cannot be explained as fallacy or idiocy.

 

[Karna]

Majority of religious people are born into a certain religion. So that fact alone makes your comment pretty much invalid.

Not really, there are plenty of people who choose to give up on their religion, or disagree with the way it's practiced, and make up their own interpretation despite being borne in it, saying people don't question their religion- after accepting it w/o question as children isn't correct. For at least majority of them.

And thus they get labeled as something even though they have no ability of thinking for themselves. They are NOT allowed to make a choice. They are brainwashed as soon as they pop out into this world. The most importan time for a childs develeopment cognitive-wise and emotional-wise, are the first five years. It's the time you are most prone to receive information and base your thinking process on that. It has much to do with how you will become in the future.

I never said they aren't bad to begin with, nature and nurture both plays a role, and I think for what you are saying to be possible nature need to be a certain way too.