What if science worked like religion?

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Yet science still unable to solved Human problem completely tho that still linger around the world from societal problem to inequality(soft world).

Glorified science is same as glorified material achievements above moral and social achievements. That what I saw currently.

Even ISIS that used Islam as the base for their motives also unable to provide/teach anything about morality, Thats tells you there was no moral aspect they carried with from Islamic teaching actually. But they(ISIS) actually are worst than someone that glorified science only as motto/guidance of life in this world.
 

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In general, Religious people tend to be less open minded /Ignorant about worldly surroundings and don't like having discussions that challenges the construct of their faith.

Scientists tend to present facts, studies through experimentation, trends, links etc....and use these to make highly valid theories, laws and explanation for many things in the Universe.

Religious folks go "who cares about all that stuff, you can't disprove God".
....but likewise, They can't prove God either...just how you can't prove the many miraculous things that occured in the religious Texts.
 

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The genome= dna, and that question referred to human dna.
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Is this credible?

In general, Religious people tend to be less open minded /Ignorant about worldly surroundings and don't like having discussions that challenges the construct of their faith.

Scientists tend to present facts, studies through experimentation, trends, links etc....and use these to make highly valid theories, laws and explanation for many things in the Universe.

Religious folks go "who cares about all that stuff, you can't disprove God".
....but likewise, They can't prove God either...just how you can't prove the many miraculous things that occured in the religious Texts.
Generalazation is generalizing. I can say the same thing for most atheist
 

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Answer me this, why are there religious people appear more intelligent than some atheist if religion hinders critical thinking so much?
Okay just so that we're on the same page I will give you this:

"Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, according to analysis of scores of scientific studies stretching back over decades"



It's based on a meta-analysis. So it's trustworthy.

What you are asking: ofcourse there can be intelligent religious people. It's the whole big picture that matters though.
 

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This guy has a problem with religious people. The last ten threads he made are about religion.
And I will continue to have a problem with religion s long as there are innocent people stoned to death because of faith. As long as there are people raped because of faith. As long as there is terrorism because of faith. You get the picture.
 
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Okay just so that we're on the same page I will give you this:



It's based on a meta-analysis. So it's trustworthy.

What you are asking: ofcourse there can be intelligent religious people. It's the whole big picture that matters though.
You seem to make the mistake of generalizing which has been something you did in every thread I've viewed. I don't have time to read the article because I am at work. But if you could highlight the important parts that be nice. I saw the title and already see that's it's flawed as there are many factors that make up how inteliigent one can be. You didn't answer my question either. If the article based on this (flawed) study to be true, then why are the religious people that appear more intelligent than atheist?
 

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Yet science still unable to solved Human problem completely tho that still linger around the world from societal problem to inequality(soft world).

Glorified science is same as glorified material achievements above moral and social achievements. That what I saw currently.

Even ISIS that used Islam as the base for their motives also unable to provide/teach anything about morality, Thats tells you there was no moral aspect they carried with from Islamic teaching actually. But they(ISIS) actually are worst than someone that glorified science only as motto/guidance of life in this world.
Maybe you should stop using your computer, internet and your phone. They are all real because of science.

I'm just glorifying people who are ready to look for answers through experimentations and different point of views. Ofcourse there are unsolved question, but atleast they are working on them. Unlike religion which has 0 evidence.
 

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The genome= dna, and that question referred to human dna.
Here:
Cool, can't tell if this is true or not, but the article also doesn't rule out the possibility of Dawkins lying, so this doesn't help your case. In the end, I am still left with no proof of information actually being added into DNA, but only altering or taking away from it.
 

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Maybe you should stop using your computer, internet and your phone. They are all real because of science.

I'm just glorifying people who are ready to look for answers through experimentations and different point of views. Ofcourse there are unsolved question, but atleast they are working on them. Unlike religion which has 0 evidence.
Yet you have faith that all the answers will be found. I guess your new nickname will be Ironman
 

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You seem to make the mistake of generalizing which has been something you did in every thread I've viewed. I don't have time to read the article because I am at work. But if you could highlight the important parts that be nice. I saw the title and already see that's it's flawed as there are many factors that make up how inteliigent one can be. You didn't answer my question either. If the article based on this (flawed) study to be true, then why are the religious people that appear more intelligent than atheist?
So now you are questioning a validity of 53 scientific studies which have decades worth of data.

"A new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades has concluded that religious people are less intelligent than non-believers.

A piece of University of Rochester analysis, led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, found “a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity” in 53 out of 63 studies.

According to the study entitled, 'The Relation Between Intelligence and Religiosity: A Meta-Analysis and Some Proposed Explanations', published in the 'Personality and Social Psychology Review', even during early years the more intelligent a child is the more likely it would be to turn away from religion.

In old age above average intelligence people are less likely to believe, the researchers also found.

According to the review, other factors - such as gender or education - did not make any difference to the correlation between intelligence and religious belief."

Look you questioned me about this, I gave you this quite trustworthy study. I don't really care if it doesn't impress you.

Yet you have faith that all the answers will be found. I guess your new nickname will be Ironman
Nope never said that. Most likely we won't be able to find "all the answers".
 

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Is this credible?



Generalazation is generalizing. I can say the same thing for most atheist
Read it, or better yet open a 10th grade biology school textbook, or read up on evolution (from scientific sources) and decide for yourself. Its also a shock to see that your lot consider a professor of biology from the University of Oxford(a very credible place, if you know anything about education) to not be credible, despite being an expert in his field, due to ONE question asked by someone with clearly ulterior and biased motives and his subsequent silence as 'proof' that the questioner and his question were, in fact, credible. As for my link, it spells it out more or less, see the problem with creationists and their arguments is that 'credible' scientists and studies dont take them seriously enough to answer their specific(read: misleading and deliberately distorted ) questions.
 
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And I will continue to have a problem with religion s long as there are innocent people stoned to death because of faith. As long as there are people raped because of faith. As long as there is terrorism because of faith. You get the picture.
See this post:
 

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And I will continue to have a problem it as long as there are innocent people stoned to death because of faith. As long as there are people raped because of faith. As long as there is terrorism because of faith. You get the picture.
There was no people getting rape bcus of faith especially if you talking about Islam(and yes it was). Sure there are Muslim that commit rape action but most of people that done the raping actually not following Islamic teaching very well at all. I'm from Malaysia a Muslim majority country but most of my fellow Muslim that do the raping crime actually never follow the true Islamic teaching. How you can called bcus of faith they did all the raping?

And no women/man get stoned to the death in Muslim countries bcus they do illegal/unmarriage ***. Hudud(Islamic punishment law) is optional in Islamic country and not compulsory/obligatory in Islam.
 

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Bud you sound just like the people trying to shove religion down others throats. You have nothing better to do than this shit on a naruto website?

Go do something productive instead of playing a Jehovah's witness on an anime forum. If you really want to make a difference then why are you on narutobase?
 

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Cool, can't tell if this is true or not, but the article also doesn't rule out the possibility of Dawkins lying, so this doesn't help your case. In the end, I am still left with no proof of information actually being added into DNA, but only altering or taking away from it.
And you think that implies what, exactly? That evolution isnt true? Lol

You have to study the science to understand it,and you dont get to decide what falsifies one theory or what doesnt, thats the qualified person(scientist's job).

'In the end im left with no proof that letters ever display any intrinsic numeric tendency, but only ever linguistic ones. Therefore equating them with numbers is a lie, and all of algebra is false'.

^^ Sorry, that logic does'nt work.
 
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