Well Kishi is making easier to figure out who Tobi is not

[csouvik41]

Kakashi was about 15-16 look how strong naruto and sasuke are at this age.

He was not an adult he was wearing a hood and a mask we could not see his true body stature and face. Of course wearing a hood makes you look bigger then your actual size.

People mainly think he was an adult because of his voice, but when itachi was 13 and killed his clan he also had the voice of an adult and many people thought he was much older until we worked out his age.

i am not talking about his strength but his appearance....imo by no means tobi looks of same age as kakashi..... obviously i can be wrong... but for now this is what i think and believe...

 

[shogun973]

Itachi was 13...

He still wasn't short I think its obit on some vader ish

Then explain how d body of a 13yrs old boy got so big in such a short time(if u say its obito)
Izuna was said to be dead by itachi AND tobi..
Not knowing much about kagami only fuels his mystery..go figure

Obitos body was crushed, it was repaired

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Cant you just wait till Kishi shows us Tobi's real identity? I was never really interested in who he is...but he's definitely not Obito....and why do people say he is that fodder Kagami ...

Who do you think he is then?

i am not talking about his strength but his appearance....imo by no means tobi looks of same age as kakashi..... obviously i can be wrong... but for now this is what i think and believe...

Have you ever seen the left side of tobi's face EVER! answer that

 

[svladcjelli42]

Remember when Madara said (speaking to the five kage but addressing Hashirama) "I would have taught you to rise from the dead"?
If Madara had a technique that allowed him to rise from the dead, how would it manifest? I say it created Tobi. "But," you protest, "If Tobi is Madara, how could he and Edo Madara be in different places at the same time?" Well, I'll tell you. Tobi has no soul. He is a continuation of Madara's will and knowledge. This, by the way, is how Edo Madara knew about the moon's eye plan.

Have you ever seen the left side of tobi's face EVER! answer that

Yes, a lot of it, during the fight with Konan.

Here's what I think

What we do know about Tobi:
he was alive when Madara was alive

when Madara was summoned he knew him

Madara supposedly died atleast 60 years before Nagato was born, yet somehow the first thing EdoMadara said was so that brat Nagato..
this tell me that either Madara died after Nagato was born, so he lived a lot longer and died not much than 30 years ago, not like 80 as we thought..


And we is it so hard to believe that Madara and Izuna just switched their eyes and both got the EMS???

No one said that only one brother can unlock the ems..

as to how can it be Izuna and be so old:
he has some DNA from the 1st Hokage(who was the only one said to be as strong as Madara) + the EMS is said to prolong life + he could be using some jutsu like Orochimaru to stay alive younger(switch bodies anyone??)



AND for the Final one Theory to who might Madara Be:
Okay bare with me for a minute and keep reading

when Madara fought the 1st, he stole DNA from him,
It was said that Zetsu was created from the 1st hokage's DNA,
Zetsu it the most loyal and beside Tobi from the beginning(Tobi trusts him uncoditionaly),
Zetsu has the power to transform perfectly as someone else, even copy their chacra perfectly,

So what if Madara created Zetsu (who else would be?), Since Izanagi is said to have the power to alter reality and create things AND the power of the Senju - to bring it to life (In a chapter it was said about the two sons of the Sage of six paths, that the son with the Sharingan could create and the other one could bring the creation to life..), and that's why it has the 1st DNA - to bring it to life...

and there is a posibility that Madara before dying casted a genjutsu to implant his thoughts into a Zetsu ( the way shi's eyes casted a strong enough jutsu to free Itachi..), and Zetsu just copied his chackra an outer appearance
+ before Sasuke fought Danzo, Tobi just ripped his hand of and it looked like white putty..

And Tobi said that he is just a shell of his former self.. couse he has the memories and thought of Madara but not the power of his body

+ Tobi said sth like: I'm nobody.. It doesn't matter who I am..

I agree with your "final one theory."

 

[csouvik41]

Have you ever seen the left side of tobi's face EVER! answer that

a part of it when he used izanagi (although it was darkened).... btw your questions raised a question in my mind.... we have seen right side of tobi's face.....whereas even if he is alive, his right side should be destroyed by the rock....... isn't it?

 

[Shady Doctor]

I wish kishi would just reveal this dude!!!
We don't have ANY facts on who he could be, I want it to be izuna though..

 

[Some Guy]

Its a zetsu/madara : I thought it was fairly obvious due to the way his limbs magically came back, zetsu is the only one we have seen with anything near this ability... You can grow zetsu, why couldent you grow a new arm.

 

[soad20fan]

Obitos body was crushed, it was repaired

Your an idiot, how would zetsu find obito in the first place ? why would zetsu go looking around in piles of rocks? and how would he get his body out of there in one piece? truely think about what you say before you say it. also with that how would obito become an adult and have enough ower to attack the 4th? alsoooooo yes naruto and sasuke are very strong and yes they are about 16-18 but naruto had to train and awaken the 9 tails and get sage mode. and sasuke had to awken his eyes and eventually take his brothers eyes and train with orochimaru a Sanin so explain all that to me tell me again how obito is tobi ?

 

[Sarutobie]

Obitos body was crushed, it was repaired

Like you know this for sure?
And how does repairing a 13yr old body equate to a full grown body in such a small time? Obito is dead.get over it

 

[shogun973]

Like you know this for sure?
And how does repairing a 13yr old body equate to a full grown body in such a small time? Obito is dead.get over it

itachi was basically a man at 13......obito will have something to do with it
however I'm not 100% and respect your opinion.

 

[ThisOneDude]

its not obito r u kidding me? he died and he wouldnt even be that skilled as tobi

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

a part of it when he used izanagi (although it was darkened).... btw your questions raised a question in my mind.... we have seen right side of tobi's face.....whereas even if he is alive, his right side should be destroyed by the rock....... isn't it?

Those lines on his face is because he got squashed on that side of his face.

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[The Hidden Shinobi]

its not obito r u kidding me? he died and he wouldnt even be that skilled as tobi

stfu are you telling me that at 13 naruto was a drop out and he was become one of the most powerful shinobi's at just 16?

Also are you telling me that someone has not been believed dead but had survived somehow.

All the uchihas are meant to be dead so if tobi is an uchiha then the person he is is meant to be dead :sy::sy::sy::sy::sy::sy::sy::sy::sy::sy::sy: all your points are not valid.

 

[Deidera]

Zetsu is the land itself hence nobody can sense him.

 

[shogun973]

Your an idiot, how would zetsu find obito in the first place ? why would zetsu go looking around in piles of rocks? and how would he get his body out of there in one piece? truely think about what you say before you say it. also with that how would obito become an adult and have enough ower to attack the 4th? alsoooooo yes naruto and sasuke are very strong and yes they are about 16-18 but naruto had to train and awaken the 9 tails and get sage mode. and sasuke had to awken his eyes and eventually take his brothers eyes and train with orochimaru a Sanin so explain all that to me tell me again how obito is tobi ?

Nothing you said has not already been said earlier. how does kakashi come out of no where when people are fighting and grab there hand? its a ****in cartoon, he has tobi's hair personality at times, space time like the 4th can warp people like kakashi. zetsu can take any shape losers, so size is not a factor especially since had long hair like madara he is significantly shorter now. he has bolts in him and can remove limbs... I zetsu could of found him (he can go through rocks) and repaired his body, but more of san upgrade. An uchiha is valuable

 

[Deidera]

People who think Tobi is Obito are wrong why?
1-As I said from what we've seen under Tobi's mask he's old that supports the Kagami theory because Kagami should be around the age of Danzo since they were comrades
2- Why would Obito want to destroy the leaf and his clan?
3- when he talks to Kakashi he doesn't give any impression that ever knew him.The only thing he's compliment he ever said to Kakashi was 'Nice eye' but that doesn't help the casue.

 

[kent0005]

those who say tobi can't be izuna, can't be certain. Even if madara confirms izuna death, there is possibility madara THINKs izuna is dead, when he is actually alive. izuna could have faked his death and took identity as tobi. Considering izuna to be madara equal or closest to madara, izuna should be able to perform all the things tobi had done. Since they are almost equal and brothers, his chakra should be similar to madara and nine-tails probably wasn't able to distinguish tobi chakra from madara if tobi was izuna. Unless tobi is part of madara like a split with identical chakra then tobi is not. So cant rule out izuna

 

[csouvik41]

Those lines on his face is because he got squashed on that side of his face.

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squashing would leave a much deeper marks.... i think those marks are because of his age..... when one gets old, the skin gets loose.... it creates that kind of mark... take a close look at tsuchikage's face.... he will also have similar marks...

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

squashing would leave a much deeper marks.... i think those marks are because of his age..... when one gets old, the skin gets loose.... it creates that kind of mark... take a close look at tsuchikage's face.... he will also have similar marks...

Tobi's marks look a little different like his face is messed up, I looked at the tsuchikages and danzo's face just now it is not this bad.

Why do you think kishi has not shown the other side of his face there has to be a reason.

We have also said that he can rip off his right arm as if he can't feel it. another sign of a messed up body.

 

[csouvik41]

Those lines on his face is because he got squashed on that side of his face.

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the picture of tobi above looks similar to sasuke's father (forgot his name )

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