Well Kishi is making easier to figure out who Tobi is not

[FizzyDrink]

I already told you to watch and see that it will be either Kagami or Izuna most likely Kagami just wait and see.

Could you at least explain why you think it will most likely be Kagami?

 

[csouvik41]

Can someone tell me why it can't be obito, but it can be a guy who is about 100 izuna and even a guy from centuries ago the elder son. And then we have stupid post like the one above ^^ saying he died because kakashi took his eye, when shisui was walking around with no eyes.

it can't be obito because during the fox attack, kakashi was a kid......

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if u remember, kakasshi and tobi are oof same age... but tobi was an adult....

so logically tobi cant be obito..

 

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[Itachi2304]

I want to ask you guys something. Has anyone else noticed Tobi's height change? look at when itachi talked to tobi, tobi is MUCH taller than itachi. like WAY taller. now look at when tobi fights Konan and notice how he is just a little taller than konan is. In the databooks konan is 170 centimeters and itachi is like 179 centimeters. When tobi fought konan he seemed between itachi and konan's height so he was like 175 centimeters. However, when he talked to itachi he looked like he was ATLEAST kisames height. Hell look at when tobi confronts kisame. The old tobi is basically his height. I think tobi is somehow switching bodies. I mean look at how different each body he is possessing looks.

 

[jdilla]

Kagami is a uchiha that was shown in 4 or 5 panels max in a scene that predated the uchiha massacre seriously start thinking out the box kagami uchiha theories are most retarded
considering no thought has to be put behind it not to mention kagami brings nothing to the plot

You can't throw the Kagami theory out the window, the fact that we know nothing about him makes him the perfect candidate to be Tobi since we don't know of his personality or ideals and also people are saying he might know S/T because of the 2nd Hokage which makes sense along with the age factor. My vote is still for Izuna though.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

it can't be obito because during the fox attack, kakashi was a kid......

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if u remember, kakasshi and tobi are oof same age... but tobi was an adult....

so logically tobi cant be obito..

Kakashi was about 15-16 look how strong naruto and sasuke are at this age.

He was not an adult he was wearing a hood and a mask we could not see his true body stature and face. Of course wearing a hood makes you look bigger then your actual size.

People mainly think he was an adult because of his voice, but when itachi was 13 and killed his clan he also had the voice of an adult and many people thought he was much older until we worked out his age.

 

[nigha]

How do you make a new thread?

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

I want to ask you guys something. Has anyone else noticed Tobi's height change? look at when itachi talked to tobi, tobi is MUCH taller than itachi. like WAY taller. now look at when tobi fights Konan and notice how he is just a little taller than konan is.

In the databooks konan is 170 centimeters and itachi is like 179 centimeters. When tobi fought konan he seemed between itachi and konan's height so he was like 175 centimeters. However, when he talked to itachi he looked like he was ATLEAST kisames height. Hell look at when tobi confronts kisame. The old tobi is basically his height. I think tobi is somehow switching bodies. I mean look at how different each body he is possessing looks.

I have notice this as well the long haired mask man and the shorted haired one seem to be different heights.

 

[TobisPawn]

It wont be Kagami for sure.

 

[Uziha Uchimaki]

Please forgive spelling now,
The man behind the mask Tobi as we now know i think still to this day is Madraz younger brother why? When Itachi spoke to his younger brother before there big fight he told him and showed him in a vision how they both trainned with each other to be the best. How they both killed there closest friends to obtain the MS, and how Madra took leadership of the clan. I know we all have been told that his little brother died, but never really how this happened. A famouse line from this show is ''a ninja must see threw despostion'' Can someone die from haveing there eyes taken out the way his was? maybe. maybe not, Now this tobi if he has never show us his MS and how it looks or the ablitiy it has we only get the normal sharigan from him. Ppl that think he is obito becuz of his smashed side and giving his friend his good eye are wrong i think. DOnt forget tobi has a room full of these eyes, and it is this room that makes me think even more its madras little brother. After losing are giving his eyes to his brother they began collecting other eyes for him to replace what he lost, Where did he get the rinngun eyes to even give to pain, could they really have been his like he said but also madras? Madra profected the eyes but died some how then maybe his llil brother took over but to live longer he did not use the eyes cuz he had so many and he had plans he need to see threw. this show has a thing of repeating histroy, the Sage of 6 paths 2 sons fight, later MadrA and the 1st hokage, now Naruto and Saskua, Madra and his little brother are like Itachi and his lil brother Madras lil brother saw what the leaf and clan did to his family so he would hate them just like Saskue hates the leaf. i think after haveing his eyes slash his light taken izuna could not find a pair of eyes that would let him use MS anymore thats why he collects so many eyes to find the pair that does, the rinn eye works for him cuz it is a mix of his and his brothers but notice with that eye and the regulare sharign he has the never go to a normal eye? this is the only thing i think that makes my idea wrong, kakashi keeps his sharigan covered cuz it does not got to a normal eye a true Uchia can cut it on and off ever time we see Tobi he has his eye on can he cut it off like a true uchia? are is this another side effect of an uchia which had his eyes taken and then tried to replace them with a non brother sister mother or father? Sorry this was long for u to read would love to here all your thoughts love this site love this Naruto stuff!

I love this doesn't explain everything, but damn good try.

 

[Stark]

I believe it's Izuna

 

[MEDIKMAN]

EVERYONES arguments and points are great, but in the end the only person who really knows who TOBI is is Kishi.

 

[Uziha Uchimaki]

I believe it's Izuna, though I don't know why you all are just now taking into account that Tobi had a grudge against the Uchiha and Konha when he stated that to begin with, saying that when posing as Madara, he said he felt betrayed by his clansmen.

 

[Deidera]

Tobi might have 2 identities Kagami who is the one we're seeing now and the real Madara.

 

[MisterX]

Here's what I think

What we do know about Tobi:
he was alive when Madara was alive

when Madara was summoned he knew him

Madara supposedly died atleast 60 years before Nagato was born, yet somehow the first thing EdoMadara said was so that brat Nagato..
this tell me that either Madara died after Nagato was born, so he lived a lot longer and died not much than 30 years ago, not like 80 as we thought..


And we is it so hard to believe that Madara and Izuna just switched their eyes and both got the EMS???

No one said that only one brother can unlock the ems..

as to how can it be Izuna and be so old:
he has some DNA from the 1st Hokage(who was the only one said to be as strong as Madara) + the EMS is said to prolong life + he could be using some jutsu like Orochimaru to stay alive younger(switch bodies anyone??)



AND for the Final one Theory to who might Madara Be:
Okay bare with me for a minute and keep reading

when Madara fought the 1st, he stole DNA from him,
It was said that Zetsu was created from the 1st hokage's DNA,
Zetsu it the most loyal and beside Tobi from the beginning(Tobi trusts him uncoditionaly),
Zetsu has the power to transform perfectly as someone else, even copy their chacra perfectly,

So what if Madara created Zetsu (who else would be?), Since Izanagi is said to have the power to alter reality and create things AND the power of the Senju - to bring it to life (In a chapter it was said about the two sons of the Sage of six paths, that the son with the Sharingan could create and the other one could bring the creation to life..), and that's why it has the 1st DNA - to bring it to life...

and there is a posibility that Madara before dying casted a genjutsu to implant his thoughts into a Zetsu ( the way shi's eyes casted a strong enough jutsu to free Itachi..), and Zetsu just copied his chackra an outer appearance
+ before Sasuke fought Danzo, Tobi just ripped his hand of and it looked like white putty..

And Tobi said that he is just a shell of his former self.. couse he has the memories and thought of Madara but not the power of his body

+ Tobi said sth like: I'm nobody.. It doesn't matter who I am..

 

[ShudBeFamous]

I want to ask you guys something. Has anyone else noticed Tobi's height change? look at when itachi talked to tobi, tobi is MUCH taller than itachi. like WAY taller. now look at when tobi fights Konan and notice how he is just a little taller than konan is. In the databooks konan is 170 centimeters and itachi is like 179 centimeters. When tobi fought konan he seemed between itachi and konan's height so he was like 175 centimeters. However, when he talked to itachi he looked like he was ATLEAST kisames height. Hell look at when tobi confronts kisame. The old tobi is basically his height. I think tobi is somehow switching bodies. I mean look at how different each body he is possessing looks.

Itachi was 13...

AND for the Final one Theory to who might Madara Be:
Okay bare with me for a minute and keep reading

when Madara fought the 1st, he stole DNA from him,
It was said that Zetsu was created from the 1st hokage's DNA,
Zetsu it the most loyal and beside Tobi from the beginning(Tobi trusts him uncoditionaly),
Zetsu has the power to transform perfectly as someone else, even copy their chacra perfectly,

So what if Madara created Zetsu (who else would be?), Since Izanagi is said to have the power to alter reality and create things AND the power of the Senju - to bring it to life (In a chapter it was said about the two sons of the Sage of six paths, that the son with the Sharingan could create and the other one could bring the creation to life..), and that's why it has the 1st DNA - to bring it to life...

and there is a posibility that Madara before dying casted a genjutsu to implant his thoughts into a Zetsu ( the way shi's eyes casted a strong enough jutsu to free Itachi..), and Zetsu just copied his chackra an outer appearance
+ before Sasuke fought Danzo, Tobi just ripped his hand of and it looked like white putty..

And Tobi said that he is just a shell of his former self.. couse he has the memories and thought of Madara but not the power of his body

+ Tobi said sth like: I'm nobody.. It doesn't matter who I am..

This is pretty much exactly what I think, you just went into detail saying it + Added the Senju "to bring it to life" which I never thought about. This my freind, would be my best guess.

 

[shogun973]

I think it Obito but facts are pointing away from him, maybe thats what Kishi wants, cause it would be hard to identify an uchiha with prosthetic parts from we even met him which is his left side and that where was crushed; a time and space based sharingan and for those who would say he gave one eye to kakashi how can it be him, well how did he make sharingans for his paths? Oh ya and the spiky hair it has to be a spiky haired uchiha, hair dues dont change in manga un lest they grow or cut it

I agree he has space time (pupil of the 4th)

spiky hair

warps people in different dimensions like kakashi

I know time is the thing pointing him away, along with a rock but zetsu could have saved him and grew on him or something to make him bigger and stronger....kinda like darth vader lol

he has has exces sharingans as well

 

[soad20fan]

So basically your saying its a zetsu clone gone crazy believing itslf to truely be madara uchiha and is acting as such. its better than the whole obito thing i really hate how dumb people sound saying that tobi is obito. dont they realize that when tobi fought the 4th he was a grown man and obito was still a child ? soooo how would that work out ?

 

[Scooby Doo]

Cant you just wait till Kishi shows us Tobi's real identity? I was never really interested in who he is...but he's definitely not Obito....and why do people say he is that fodder Kagami ...

 

[Sarutobie]

Kagami is a uchiha that was shown in 4 or 5 panels max in a scene that predated the uchiha massacre seriously start thinking out the box kagami uchiha theories are most retarded
considering no thought has to be put behind it not to mention kagami brings nothing to the plot

Then explain how d body of a 13yrs old boy got so big in such a short time(if u say its obito)
Izuna was said to be dead by itachi AND tobi..
Not knowing much about kagami only fuels his mystery..go figure