[VS] Warlords vs Big Mom Pirates

[Sakazuki]

I'm thinking rikudo has the upper hand in this argument currently

 

[chopstickchakra]

Buggy became famous once the world learned that he was on the Pirate King's crew and it was responsible for giving him the Warlord title. He's a big shot because of his connections to Rogers and Shanks.
I honestly don't know how hard it is for you to see this. People didn't know Buggy was part of the Pirate King's crew prior to the jailbreak.
So???

So, that's the point that not everyone is inherently famous for being on Rogers ship. But it is true that anyone who was on Rogers ship becomes famous once it is known. You said "On top of that anyone who was on the Pirate King’s Crew is a Big shot." to which he replied no then you used the Buggy panel but Buggy wasn't known to have sailed with Roger by many until then. So if people don't know you were with Roger than you don't get that fame.

Like I told kiiro in my original post it was implied, you can tell when Whitebeard said that the whole world was surprised once he returned to the New World . Nothing said by anywhere else has every proved that Shanks is not a Yonko prior to his arm being taken off.

I agree it's implied but since then you've been saying it's undeniable fact.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

So, that's the point that not everyone is inherently famous for being on Rogers ship. But it is true that anyone who was on Rogers ship becomes famous once it is known. You said "On top of that anyone who was on the Pirate King’s Crew is a Big shot." to which he replied no then you used the Buggy panel but Buggy wasn't known to have sailed with Roger by many until then. So if people don't know you were with Roger than you don't get that fame.

@Bold This is exactly what I was saying the whole time. If I worded it wrong to you then that's fine but in the end of the day my point is that once known, instantly you become famous. Just by being associated with Rogers at the time got you hunted down and killed, so to say that being on the Pirate King's ship doesn't make you famous is absolutely wrong.
And it's true that being on the Pirate crew's ship made you a Big shot, I just didn't specify on the conditions on when and how.

I agree it's implied but since then you've been saying it's undeniable fact.

True, I'm not gonna deny this.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Roronoa was famous even before he joined Luffy's crew. He is known by d name Pirate hunter who was given an invitation by Baroque works.

That doesn't make you famous.

Nope...

Yep...

Yeah right next is Chinjao was in same leagues as Roger n WB right since Prime Garp need to train to beat Chinjao

That has nothing to do with being a legend or losing to Prime Garp. Stay on topic.

Lol Garp said he destryed 8mountains doesn't mean he destryed them all in once.

His opponent just finished splitting an ice continent all at once.

And those lvl6 is with BB.
Jinbei gave his Shichibukai title n Crocodile lost it's obvious they not gonna make them Shichibukai again.

Wrong, not all of them are with BB. Some of them escaped during the riot

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U are seriously dumb or u drunk. Have u forgotten the caos that erupted after WBs demise????

Even last chapter Kizaru volunteer to go to Wano alone.

You're either illiterate or stupid because Kizaru never volunteered to go to Wano alone. And at the end of the day they declared war on whitebeard regardless of whatever chaos arose, they neglected to consider the "pillars of the NW" which you so heavily implied.
Learn how to read because I never mentioned about the circumstances that happened, only the actions they carried out.

Nobody cared that's why Fujitora was furious right.
And it was only WB who was remembering the past who said everyone was talking about "how u lost that hand"
OPverse has time n again showed that people care about small things that's happening around them say for example Luffy's return post TS was a big issue that SHs have resurfaced after 2years.

Issho never gave a shit and I think you have a hard time grasping the concept of "everyone" do you? Whitebeard was speaking on the behalf of everyone 10 years ago, Oda doesn't need to show an off panel event that happened 10 years ago.

It's u who claims Shanks was a Yonko when they fought so the burden of proof lies on your shoulder or you ran out of arguments o_0

No, it's on you. When Shanks' status was first introduced in the manga, the status they gave him was Yonko status. So to doubt his status otherwise is as senile as saying that kaido or whitebeard wasn't a yonko when Luffy was a kid.

1)He fought WB when he was reduced to almost vegetable state n he had eaten his DF. Same with Ace where he wants to try his Df powers.
On the other hand he gave scar to Shanks when he wasn't even a DF user.

2)that part 1 scar was given to him by BB duh

1. Well no that's not an excuse when everybody was going after his head, including Crocodile. Ace was never in a weakened state. Whitebeard was already in a weakened state when he entered the war even Crocodile and Marco confirmed this.
2. No duh it happened off panel before chapter 1, so why bring that up when it had nothing to do with him being yonko?

1)He actually have a crew now That ghost girl counts as a crew member
2)that's another assumption that Moriah fought Yonko Kaido(again never mentioned that Kaido was a Yonko when they fought).
3)I have never said anything like that (but it will be also count as assumption if u think he was a warlord back then. Even tho Oda has never said that in manga)

1. fanfic no she's not part of his crew and he doesn't have one. This confirms that you don't know anything about Onepiece
2. Yes they did. Once again, you don't know Onepiece.

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3. Oda never said that he wasn't a warlord and neither did he say that Shanks wasn't

 

[chopstickchakra]

@Bold This is exactly what I was saying the whole time. If I worded it wrong to you then that's fine but in the end of the day my point is that once known, instantly you become famous. Just by being associated with Rogers at the time got you hunted down and killed, so to say that being on the Pirate King's ship doesn't make you famous is absolutely wrong.
And it's true that being on the Pirate crew's ship made you a Big shot, I just didn't specify on the conditions on when and how.


True, I'm not gonna deny this.

When I say being on PK ship doesn't make you famous I meant that people don't know every member of Rogers' crew so just being part of the crew did not make them all world wide famous as evidenced by the masses not knowing Buggy's relation to Roger. Right? We're in agreement that once the world knows you were with Roger your worth jumps astronomically. It just sounded to me like you were saying everyone who sailed with Roger is automatically world wide famous and we know from at least Buggy that's not true. If Buggy doesn't satisfy look to Crocus, he was a doctor on Rogers crew for 3 years, no one knows him or that he was a Roger pirate really.

 

[Skull Knight]

That doesn't make you famous.

Lol he was already famous. People kept calling him Pirate hunter for a reason.

That has nothing to do with being a legend or losing to Prime Garp.

thats not Prime Garp. its like saying BM was at Prime when she killed that old giant(who was there hero)

His opponent just finished splitting an ice continent all at once.

so what??? cutting Ice isn't the hardest thing in OP

Wrong, not all of them are with BB. Some of them escaped during the riot

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Its pretty obvious they not gonna make them Shichibukai as they still havent found one

You're either illiterate or stupid because Kizaru never volunteered to go to Wano alone

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lol he clearly volunteer to go there

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And at the end of the day they declared war on whitebeard regardless of whatever chaos arose, they neglected to consider the "pillars of the NW" which you so heavily implied.
Learn how to read because I never mentioned about the circumstances that happened, only the actions they carried out.

Marines vs WB was inevitable. It was time n again said that if u hurt WB's pirates then u have to face wrath of WB's full force.
when another Yonko was ready to fight, Marines declared ceasefire. if they never cared whats going around then they would have sent Mihawk to kill Shanks or BM by now.

Issho never gave a shit and I think you have a hard time grasping the concept of "everyone" do you? Whitebeard was speaking on the behalf of everyone 10 years ago, Oda doesn't need to show an off panel event that happened 10 years ago.

lol Issho was pissed to the point that he bowed infront of everyone saying Warlords were choosen by WG and they are equally to blame.
i already gave u Aokiji example. Nobody talked about his missing leg are they???
WB was just remembering the past and wants to enquire how he lost that hand.

No, it's on you. When Shanks' status was first introduced in the manga, the status they gave him was Yonko status. So to doubt his status otherwise is as senile as saying that kaido or whitebeard wasn't a yonko when Luffy was a kid.

No genius Shanks was introduced in Romance Dawn and the only thing written was Pirate leader yup no Yonko no other fancy title

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another thing is that an Emperor with his full crew sitting inEast blue not defending his kingdom at NW makes like zero sense

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1. Well no that's not an excuse when everybody was going after his head, including Crocodile. Ace was never in a weakened state. Whitebeard was already in a weakened state when he entered the war even Crocodile and Marco confirmed this.

so u agree BB only attacked an Yonko when that yonko is in a vegetable state.
Even when Ace fought he very well knew Ace was alone and he had support from his full crew. {lets not forget he had df by this time}

2. No duh it happened off panel before chapter 1, so why bring that up when it had nothing to do with him being yonko?

I brought that up as it shows BB pre TS & before the start of this manga was brave enough to give a mark on Shanks(who according to yours view was Yonko, even tho he chicken out seeing Admiral or Yonko lvl guys)

1. fanfic no she's not part of his crew and he doesn't have one. This confirms that you don't know anything about Onepiece

lol Perona is travelling with Mihawk as shown in 3D2Y and also in one of the covers where they were together

2. Yes they did. Once again, you don't know Onepiece.

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Thriller bark part i have to agree. i skipped that arc since it was boring.

3. Oda never said that he wasn't a warlord and neither did he say that Shanks wasn't

if oda never said that they were Yonko or shichibukai when they fought then how u r so sure that they were??? lol.

 

[kiiro]

But from the shichibukai only Mihawk and Jinbei can bypass the biscuits.
So we are under the assumption that Mihawk will be fighting BM so obviously no one else can stop the biscuits. Jinbei can but he'll get blitzed by Katakuri since he'll foresee that Jinbei will try to wet the biscuits.

Well, Doflamingo also can since his physical power also is between Gear 3 and gear 4. With his awakening he was giving fight to Luffy, even stopping his attacks.

Jimbei could do something with his water techniques, would he need a source or could do it like a Pokemon?

 

[kiiro]

I'm thinking rikudo has the upper hand in this argument currently

In what points?

 

[Oblivionx]

Doffy isn't Admiral lvl tho.
Jinbei can stop Cracker but I doubt he can took him down

I was referring to mihawk being admiral level. Doffy isn't obviously. Mihawk with 2 doffy level warlords should take BM down.
And if he can stop him, why can't he take him down? Jinbei has performed pretty well against BM too. Otherwise, i wouldn't be so confident either.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Well, Doflamingo also can since his physical power also is between Gear 3 and gear 4. With his awakening he was giving fight to Luffy, even stopping his attacks.

Jimbei could do something with his water techniques, would he need a source or could do it like a Pokemon?

Fishmen can produce water. Also Kuma should be able to handle the biscuits as well.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Lol he was already famous. People kept calling him Pirate hunter for a reason.

So what? That doesn't make you famous.

thats not Prime Garp. its like saying BM was at Prime when she killed that old giant(who was there hero)

Garp was not a little 6 year old when he fought Chinjao.

That's obviously prime garp regardless of your ignorance for Onepiece.

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was him with all black hair and vice admiral which took place

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So to say that it wasn't Prime Garp is just stupid. Concede when you know you are wrong.

so what??? cutting Ice isn't the hardest thing in OP

This is probably the dumbest thing said because cutting a ice CONTINENT is hard. If you don't think that's hard then go to Antarctica and try splitting that chunk of land yourself

Its pretty obvious they not gonna make them Shichibukai as they still havent found one

They did find them.

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Anymore excuses?

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lol he clearly volunteer to go there

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He clearly volunteered to go to Sabaody island too pre-timskip, now show me the part when he went there alone? Better yet, tell me where he said he will go to Wano alone? Learn how to read.

Marines vs WB was inevitable. It was time n again said that if u hurt WB's pirates then u have to face wrath of WB's full force.
when another Yonko was ready to fight, Marines declared ceasefire. if they never cared whats going around then they would have sent Mihawk to kill Shanks or BM by now.

That's not an excuse to declare war on a Yonko and the marines never send a single person after a Yonko and his crew, that's stupid. Mihawk is the only Warlord strong enough to ever march into a Yonko's territory to have a one on one conversation with a yonko.
So your theory is weak here.

lol Issho was pissed to the point that he bowed infront of everyone saying Warlords were choosen by WG and they are equally to blame.
i already gave u Aokiji example. Nobody talked about his missing leg are they???
WB was just remembering the past and wants to enquire how he lost that hand.

Issho was not pissed and he was mad that celestial dragons have too much power. Yes, everyone talked about Aokiji's missing leg, in fact Jinbei told Luffy that it was talked about over the timeskip just like how Whitebeard told Shanks that everybody was talking about his missing arm over a decade ago. If your that dumb enough to not understand the concept of "off panel" and "everybody" then you should just stop talking right now and leave. This is simple English here and you're interpreting your own opinions into what the manga clearly stated.
Manga>>> Anything you think, learn that word for word. Whitebeard said everybody then he means everybody. I don't care what you think, only what the manga says.

No genius Shanks was introduced in Romance Dawn and the only thing written was Pirate leader yup no Yonko no other fancy title

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another thing is that an Emperor with his full crew sitting inEast blue not defending his kingdom at NW makes like zero sense

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1.No, you dolt. Being a

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is not a status. The first staus Shanks was ever sown to have was a Yonko status.

2. If you think that was Shanks' whole crew on that ship, then you're sadly mistaken. He's shown to have so many lackey's underneath him:

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so u agree BB only attacked an Yonko when that yonko is in a vegetable state.
Even when Ace fought he very well knew Ace was alone and he had support from his full crew. {lets not forget he had df by this time}

No I don't. Being in a vegetable state means that you can not move any of your limbs, speak, or think coherently. Whitebeard did all of them.
The only thing that I agree on is that Whitebeard was in a weakened state which he was confirmed to be every since he entered the Paramount War

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Yet he still fought him.

Ace was never weakened when he fought BB so i don't know why you even brought him up.

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I brought that up as it shows BB pre TS & before the start of this manga was brave enough to give a mark on Shanks(who according to yours view was Yonko, even tho he chicken out seeing Admiral or Yonko lvl guys)

He never chickened out on fighting anybody and killed a yonko level guy already so your points invalid. Even as a yonko he beat up Marco w/crew and even tore down Dragon's hideout, yet when the Cp 0 showed up he left the scene before there arrival. That doesn't mean he's a chicken, that means he's smart for obvious reasons that you don't understand.

How do you say that Blackbeard is a chicken against admiral/yonko people when he just finished killling a yonko and fough fleet admiral sengoku with vice admiral garp all at the same time in the next panel?
Are you gonna say that admiral Akainu>> Sengoku and Garp too?

lol Perona is travelling with Mihawk as shown in 3D2Y and also in one of the covers where they were together

So what does that have to do with anything? She's still not part of his crew :lol

Thriller bark part i have to agree. i skipped that arc since it was boring.

First time you've admit your wrong despite being wrong on everything else on here

if oda never said that they were Yonko or shichibukai when they fought then how u r so sure that they were??? lol.

Because they were and there's no valid reason on stating that they weren't.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Lmaoo Warlord STOMPS!!!!!
Dont matter if its new or old

1.) Doffy bird cage likely wouldnt effect big mom or dogtooth or even oven (since i would assume he can melt it off) but uh... lol yeah errbody else getting fucked... U not cutting these strings by the way... So while doffy is making his own family fight each other.. U got kuma the GOD... Crocodile.. Mihawk.... Jinbei ... Hancock...Moria... Lmaoo yeah... warlords take this with mid difficulty.. Cause i can guarntee you, seeing his family getting took control of, dogtooth isnt going to be as calm as he was vs luffy.

Snack is a MAJOR non factor since we aint see him do shit except know he got jacked.. Cracker would get beat by jinbei

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

In what points?

Try everything

 

[Skull Knight]

So what? That doesn't make you famous.

Wtf u talking about. He was famous Pirate hunter even before he joined SHs.

Garp was not a little 6 year old when he fought Chinjao.

We call some body at Prime when he/she is at Pinnacle not that who needs training to beat a fodder whose best feat was cutting ice.

That's obviously prime garp regardless of your ignorance for Onepiece.

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was him with all black hair and vice admiral which took place

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So to say that it wasn't Prime Garp is just stupid. Concede when you know you are wrong.

The scan u put weakens your argument as the difference between Garp vs Chinjao (30years back) n Garp vs Roger(Roger last journey was 26years back)is of 4years.

This is probably the dumbest thing said because cutting a ice CONTINENT is hard. If you don't think that's hard then go to Antarctica and try splitting that chunk of land yourself

Right real world example using in a manga. I guess it's easy for Swordsman to cut mountains with a sword isn't it.

They did find them.

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Anymore excuses?

That's a lvl 6 prisoner???

He clearly volunteered to go to Sabaody island too pre-timskip, now show me the part when he went there alone? Better yet, tell me where he said he will go to Wano alone? Learn how to read.

Excuses I see. Didn't he went to Sabody n fought all 4guys from worst gen alone???

That's not an excuse to declare war on a Yonko and the marines never send a single person after a Yonko and his crew, that's stupid.

Even if they send a fleet behind Mihawk do u think he can beat a Yonko n his army???(and by fleet fodders are mostly part of it)

Mihawk is the only Warlord strong enough to ever march into a Yonko's territory to have a one on one conversation with a yonko.
So your theory is weak here.

Lol Shanks has sent his representative in WB's ship.

Issho was not pissed and he was mad that celestial dragons have too much power. Yes, everyone talked about Aokiji's missing leg, in fact Jinbei told Luffy that it was talked about over the timeskip just like how Whitebeard told Shanks that everybody was talking about his missing arm over a decade ago. If your that dumb enough to not understand the concept of "off panel" and "everybody" then you should just stop talking right now and leave. This is simple English here and you're interpreting your own opinions into what the manga clearly stated.
Manga>>> Anything you think, learn that word for word. Whitebeard said everybody then he means everybody. I don't care what you think, only what the manga says.

Not even a single guy enquired about the missing limbs

1.No, you dolt. Being a

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is not a status. The first staus Shanks was ever sown to have was a Yonko status.

U are an idiot. Everybody knows Pirate leader isn't a title. That's how Oda showed Shanks when the manga started.
Now u want to follow the manga so closely then get this straight in your head. The shanks who met Luffy at Romance Dawn chapter wasn't a Yonko as no title was attached to him.

2. If you think that was Shanks' whole crew on that ship, then you're sadly mistaken. He's shown to have so many lackey's underneath him:

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Great now we are talking about lackeys who are protecting NW isn't it???

No I don't. Being in a vegetable state means that you can not move any of your limbs, speak, or think coherently. Whitebeard did all of them.
The only thing that I agree on is that Whitebeard was in a weakened state which he was confirmed to be every since he entered the Paramount War

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Yet he still fought him.

And he chickened out when WB punched him n told his crew to kill him. Let's again not forget this BB had DF that time.

Ace was never weakened when he fought BB so i don't know why you even brought him up.

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I brought that up as it shows BB pre TS & before the start of this manga was brave enough to give a mark on Shanks(who according to yours view was Yonko, even tho he chicken out seeing Admiral or Yonko lvl guys)

He never chickened out on fighting anybody and killed a yonko level guy already so your points invalid. Even as a yonko he beat up Marco w/crew and even tore down Dragon's hideout, yet when the Cp 0 showed up he left the scene before there arrival. That doesn't mean he's a chicken, that means he's smart for obvious reasons that you don't understand.

Lol it took all his crew n thousands of bullet to kill WB. He didn't killed WB alone.
Even with Ace he had DF power n his crew to back him up.

How do you say that Blackbeard is a chicken against admiral/yonko people when he just finished killling a yonko and fough fleet admiral sengoku with vice admiral garp all at the same time in the next panel?
Are you gonna say that admiral Akainu>> Sengoku and Garp too?

Post war saw Akainu n ran away.
Shanks ready to fight he leaves the bf. U want any more reason.

So what does that have to do with anything? She's still not part of his crew :lol

She is tho

Because they were and there's no valid reason on stating that they weren't.

Lol nothing shows he was a Yonko when the duel takes place. I don't know why u are adamant on the note that Shanks was a Yonko n Mihawk was Shichibukai when there duels happened
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[Rikudou Tobi]

Wtf u talking about. He was famous Pirate hunter even before he joined SHs.

Wtf is wrong with you, no he's not. He was trying to make a name for himself.

We call some body at Prime when he/she is at Pinnacle not that who needs training to beat a fodder whose best feat was cutting ice.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard and that's not what Prime means. Prime means that they were at the height of their career physically and time period wise. You're done here.

The scan u put weakens your argument as the difference between Garp vs Chinjao (30years back) n Garp vs Roger(Roger last journey was 26years back)is of 4years.

Are you this senile? The fight that happened means that Garp fought Chinjao 4 years before Rogers became Pirate King. That's still Garp fighting in the early stages of the Prime of his life, in fact even better proving my point.

Right real world example using in a manga. I guess it's easy for Swordsman to cut mountains with a sword isn't it.

This doesn't make any sense because even Zoro has never cut a mountain with a sword. Cutting moutnains with a sword is a high end feat and you'd have to be stupid if your gonna imply that it is easy. On top of that comparing a continent to a mountain is also stupid.

That's a lvl 6 prisoner???

Do you not read? He said he's been handing in some of the lvl 6 prisoners to the world govt. and in the next page he said that he wanted to get Buggy, Ivo, Jimbei and Crocodile next.
So your excuse that there was no lvl 6 impel down members known is absolutely wrong.

Excuses I see. Didn't he went to Sabody n fought all 4guys from worst gen alone???

Stupidity I see, because Kizaru did not fight all 4 guys alone. And never has it ever stated that he was going to fight a yonko alone.

Even if they send a fleet behind Mihawk do u think he can beat a Yonko n his army???(and by fleet fodders are mostly part of it)

A fleet of fodders isn't doing anything to a Yonko in the prime of his life. If fighting a Yonko was so easy, then why didn't akainu send a fleet after shanks? Why did kizaru and akainu concede to Shanks in the War after WB died?

Lol Shanks has sent his representative in WB's ship.

:lol Shanks sent his messenger to send a former letter for an arrangement which he told Whitbeard that he was going to send someone before hand. Mihawk walked in there however and whenever he wanted to.

Not even a single guy enquired about the missing limbs

This is why you don't know Onepiece

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Not a single guy huh? What more excuses or idiocy will you say next?

Let me use your logic here shall we?

Not a single guy mentioned

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, therefore he is not a legend/famous and he is not a Yonko 10 years ago :sdo: Hurr durr hurr

U are an idiot. Everybody knows Pirate leader isn't a title. That's how Oda showed Shanks when the manga started.
Now u want to follow the manga so closely then get this straight in your head. The shanks who met Luffy at Romance Dawn chapter wasn't a Yonko as no title was attached to him.

You're an illiterate dumbass that doesn't know how to read. Shanks' first status when he was introduced as a Yonko, even Garp said that it's a title.
Let's use your stupid logic again, shall we?

Pre timskip, Kuma was introduced as a

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, just like how Shanks was introduced as a captain.
Now they revealed Kuma's status as a former king 2 years later as a

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like they did Shanks on being a Yonko.
I guess that means that Kuma wasn't a fomrer King 2 years ago because the romance dawn never had a former king, warlord system, or revolutionary army in chapter 1. Just like Shanks isn't a Yonko because like Kuma they refused to show his status during his very FIRST APPEARANCE.

Great now we are talking about lackeys who are protecting NW isn't it???

Great now you forgot that you said that Shanks' whole crew was in the east blue despite only seeing 8-10 members but an army in one of his islands. You proud now?

And he chickened out when WB punched him n told his crew to kill him. Let's again not forget this BB had DF that time.

He chickened out despite killing him? Okay, I know you're really that dumb. Then Sengoku and Garp fighting was chickening out too huh?

Lol it took all his crew n thousands of bullet to kill WB. He didn't killed WB alone.
Even with Ace he had DF power n his crew to back him up.

Ace having his devil fruit power is more of a reason on why Blackbeard beating him is not chickening out. So your logic fails.
BB still fought Whitebeard, he blocked his punches that one shot admirals and he tanked it. Still killed him regardless of how.

Post war saw Akainu n ran away.
Shanks ready to fight he leaves the bf. U want any more reason.

Fought Whitebeard a yonko during the war, fought Sengoku and Garp at the same time during the war. You want more logic?

She is tho

Fanfic boy over here. Show me in the manga where it says that Persona is on Mihawk's crew.

Lol nothing shows he was a Yonko when the duel takes place. I don't know why u are adamant on the note that Shanks was a Yonko n Mihawk was Shichibukai when there duels happened
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Anyone with a brain knows he already had that title. Your excuses are futile.

 

[Skull Knight]

Wtf is wrong with you, no he's not. He was trying to make a name for himself.

People kept calling him Pirate hunter for a reason. If he wasn't famous he wouldn't have got a letter from Baroque works.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard and that's not what Prime means. Prime means that they were at the height of their career physically and time period wise. You're done here.

Are you this senile? The fight that happened means that Garp fought Chinjao 4 years before Rogers became Pirate King. That's still Garp fighting in the early stages of the Prime of his life, in fact even better proving my point.

That's prime. Need training to beat a guy with half a billion bounty???
I guess Luffy surpassed Prime Garp then since he defeated a guy whose bounty is far above 500mil.

This doesn't make any sense because even Zoro has never cut a mountain with a sword.

Pica's size can be easily compared as a mountain.

Cutting moutnains with a sword is a high end feat and you'd have to be stupid if your gonna imply that it is easy. On top of that comparing a continent to a mountain is also stupid.

Ok is cutting big boulders in real world with a sword possible??? If not then u learn something important today i.e Never use real world logic in manga.

Do you not read? He said he's been handing in some of the lvl 6 prisoners to the world govt. and in the next page he said that he wanted to get Buggy, Ivo, Jimbei and Crocodile next.
So your excuse that there was no lvl 6 impel down members known is absolutely wrong.

Lol u seriously think that guy was gonna beat lvl6 prisoners who couldn't even survived preliminary round in Corrida Museum

Stupidity I see, because Kizaru did not fight all 4 guys alone. And never has it ever stated that he was going to fight a yonko alone.

Kizaru didn't fought Hawkins, Apoo, Drake n Monk???

A fleet of fodders isn't doing anything to a Yonko in the prime of his life. If fighting a Yonko was so easy, then why didn't akainu send a fleet after shanks? Why did kizaru and akainu concede to Shanks in the War after WB died?

They sent a fleet of fodders to stop Shanks when he was going to met WB.
Akainu also went with fodders to stop BB.

This is why you don't know Onepiece

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Not a single guy huh? What more excuses or idiocy will you say next?

Lol that happened when Shanks met with Rayleigh 10years ago n he saw he lost his hand n SH. Not that they were talking about it when he was at different place.

Let me use your logic here shall we?

Not a single guy mentioned

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, therefore he is not a legend/famous and he is not a Yonko 10 years ago :sdo: Hurr durr hurr

Can u stay on topic???

You're an illiterate dumbass that doesn't know how to read. Shanks' first status when he was introduced as a Yonko, even Garp said that it's a title.
Let's use your stupid logic again, shall we?

Either I m talking to a wall or an idiot. Shanks title was given to him later in the series. It could mean he wasn't a Yonko at the beginning but gradually became one later. Is it that hard to understand???

Pre timskip, Kuma was introduced as a

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, just like how Shanks was introduced as a captain.
Now they revealed Kuma's status as a former king 2 years later as a

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like they did Shanks on being a Yonko.
I guess that means that Kuma wasn't a fomrer King 2 years ago because the romance dawn never had a former king, warlord system, or revolutionary army in chapter 1. Just like Shanks isn't a Yonko because like Kuma they refused to show his status during his very FIRST APPEARANCE.

So now we are talking about Kuma. Wait let's talk about Streussen n few other bunch of guys who is irrelevant to the discussion.

Great now you forgot that you said that Shanks' whole crew was in the east blue despite only seeing 8-10 members but an army in one of his islands. You proud now?

Lol that bar was full of his men yet u say that. Even funny how u believe his lackeys is defending NW while Shanks is chilling in East Blue.

He chickened out despite killing him? Okay, I know you're really that dumb. Then Sengoku and Garp fighting was chickening out too huh?

U seriously can't understand do u ??? He f u c k in had DF when he fought Ace n WB. For God Sake he had WBs DF when he said he was gonna destroy MF n still chicken out when a fresh Shanks arrived.

Ace having his devil fruit power is more of a reason on why Blackbeard beating him is not chickening out. So your logic fails.
BB still fought Whitebeard, he blocked his punches that one shot admirals and he tanked it. Still killed him regardless of how.

Is Ace= Shanks??? Obviously no. So can we move on from Ace n he was only able to kill WB because WB was reduced to a pulp and his crew went berserk on WB.

Fought Whitebeard a yonko during the war, fought Sengoku and Garp at the same time during the war. You want more logic?

And then ran away when Shanks came.
Couldn't even confront Akainu who came with fodders.

Fanfic boy over here. Show me in the manga where it says that Persona is on Mihawk's crew.

Lol Perona helped his student Zoro reach Sabody Arch n she went back to Mihawk. Even in one of the covers she was with Mihawk and it was shown she travelling with Mihawk in 3d2y. U still need proof???

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

XD XD XD This kid is a troll. All he does is straw off topic and say complete stupid fanfics. Anyways Sakazuki said so himself that I had the upperhand here and nobody agrees @SkullKnight.

Someone band this troll because I don't want to waste my time with him.

 

[Sakazuki]

Try everything

This lmao

 

[kiiro]

Try everything

Hahahaha

Ok, prove that Shanks was an Emperor when Luffy was 7 in chapter 1.

 

[kiiro]

XD XD XD This kid is a troll. All he does is straw off topic and say complete stupid fanfics. Anyways Sakazuki said so himself that I had the upperhand here and nobody agrees @SkullKnight.

Someone band this troll because I don't want to waste my time with him.

I support @skullknight is some things. Besides, Sakazuki?

Who is he to say you are winning? I mean, I could say you are losing. I depends on everyone opinion.