War Arc Kakashi vs Sasori

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Sasuke claimed he says chakra it didn't have no hard time searching or looking for the clay bombs he set one off to test it, he didn't have no hardtime finding any it was a second after attack coming Deiadara has pull that same trick before.
ugh your so dense. This is the one he set off on purpose to test whether or not it will explode. It's the 2ND mine set off.
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This is the one he set off by accident or on purpose. It doesn't matter since it happened prior to the one above. The 1ST mine.
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You comparing a obito made up of mostly Zetsu/Hashirama tissue that uses Mayflower to travel threw earth with ease with a kamui that lets him go threw anything and you wanna compare durable of Sasori & Obito?
No I'm explaining how fast hiding like mole is since both obito and Kakashi are proficient in the technique. You tried to use obito kicking the kunai as an example of what sasori can do but obito is much more durable than sasori or any of his puppets. And no obito didn't use mafly.

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So don't try to bull sh!t your way out of it.

Sakura gave Sasori a devastating punch to the stomach from her pulling on his core of high speed the same sakura who knocked the horn of Kaguya the strongest of them all with the power of the divine tree & juubi.
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sakura's punch is blunt force, she wasn't anywhere near as strong as that when she faced sasori so you can't use future feats as an example. It would be the equivalent of me giving kakashi his dms feats. The only reason his body is touted as indestructible is because it can break apart and be put back together at places (joints etc) if it's cut apart then it can't be put back together. Not to mention the fact that his target is the strings not him.
 
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ugh your so dense. This is the one he set off on purpose to test whether or not it will explode. It's the 2ND mine set off.
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This is the one he set off by accident or on purpose. It doesn't matter since it happened prior to the one above. The 1ST mine.
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No I'm explaining how fast hiding like mole is since both obito and Kakashi are proficient in the technique. You tried to use obito kicking the kunai as an example of what sasori can do but obito is much more durable than sasori or any of his puppets. And no obito didn't use mafly.

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So don't try to bull sh!t your way out of it.

sakura's punch is blunt force, she wasn't anywhere near as strong as that when she faced sasori so you can't use future feats as an example. It would be the equivalent of me giving kakashi his dms feats. The only reason his body is touted as indestructible is because it can break apart and be put back together at places (joints etc) if it's cut apart then it can't be put back together. Not to mention the fact that his target is the strings not him.


name calling & cursing are you throwing a tantrum do need your diaper change kid lol?

right & whats this ?
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it's not only joints please try again cause the cracks were gone
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name calling & cursing are you throwing a tantrum do need your diaper change kid lol?

right & whats this ?
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it's not only joints please try again cause the cracks were gone
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You don't reply fast enough for me to get upset over this. It's just tiring for me to repeat the same thing over and over again and to have you still not get it. But I'm glad you finally got my point and didn't try to contest it.

Black Zetsu was always on obito. Black dosent even have mafly, he only can use it through white zetsu.


Touche on the sasori bit but like I already said sasori isn't the target. The Chakra strings are, and the lightning kunai will still rip through any puppet(him included) to get to them.
 
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You don't reply fast enough for me to get upset over this. It's just tiring for me to repeat the same thing over and over again and to have you still not get it. But I'm glad you finally got my point and didn't try to contest it.

Black Zetsu was always on obito. Black dosent even have mafly, he only can use it through white zetsu.


Touche on the sasori bit but like I already said sasori isn't the target. The Chakra strings are, and the lightning kunai will still rip through any puppet(him included) to get to them.

You must not comprehend like I said sasuke stated he only, see chakra and he only touch one for testing I never contest .

Black Zetsu doesn't have mayfly now really then whats this?Before he even got his hand on a zetsu body lol

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as the claim stands he ain't reaching some one in the air flying on iron sand throwing lightning kunai throwning something upwards slows it down because of gravity already plus it wouldn't reach
 

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You must not comprehend like I said sasuke stated he only, see chakra and he only touch one for testing I never contest .

Black Zetsu doesn't have mayfly now really then whats this?Before he even got his hand on a zetsu body lol

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as the claim stands he ain't reaching some one in the air flying on iron sand throwing lightning kunai throwning something upwards slows it down because of gravity already plus it wouldn't reach


The scans show him stepping on one and stabbing another with his sword. That makes two.
With mafly you merge with the earth.
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BZ didn't. Besides. BZ never left obito's body. He was on him since before obito became a jin.

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Throws kunai directly up with enough force to support his and sakura's weight. It will have 0 problems reaching.
 
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The scans show him stepping on one and stabbing another with his sword. That makes two.
With mafly you merge with the earth.
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BZ didn't. Besides. BZ never left obito's body. He was on him since before obito became a jin.

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Throws kunai directly up with enough force to support his and sakura's weight. It will have 0 problems reaching.

This scan shows that at this time he never had a white zetsu body while using mayfly he doesn't need a white zetsu body.

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Your gonna use a sleeping target lol obito awake was able to avoid his kunai with kamui, that still doesn't prove it can hit a flying target in the air
 

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you both have been going at it forever but 1st round I see Sasori taking and second scenario kakashi winning.
 
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you both have been going at it forever but 1st round I see Sasori taking and second scenario kakashi winning.

I just fail to see how someone Flying on Iron Sand in the air is going to get it hit with a kunai with that some who has magnet release puppet that can control the direction of were kunai can go.
 

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I just fail to see how someone Flying on Iron Sand in the air is going to get it hit with a kunai with that some who has magnet release puppet that can control the direction of were kunai can go.

Naa sasori never showed he can change the direction of iron/metal things by using magnet force with the 3 kazekage, i think magnet release means the user controls some sort of metal (iron,gold...) and controls the shape of this special metal.
There are different sorts of users like gaaras dad who can control the shape of gold.
I would even say gaaras sand release is also a sort of magnet release.

Kakashi isnt stupid he knows that the 3 kazekage is sasoris most powerful weapon, if he gets behind the puppet he can cut the chakra strings with raikir making the 3 kazekage useless, right after that kakashi destroys the kazekage with one blow.
When sasori activates his 100 puppets it would be a waste of chakra getting behind every single puppet to cut the strings.
Instead of that kakashi will spam ration kunais/shurikans which blitzed opponents like obito and deva pain in the past.
I don't see the puppets dodging this and 1 kunai is able to cut through multiple puppets, if kakashi uses shurikans he can even influence the direction of the shurikans with strings.
He is able to control wires


I don't know why kakashi is so underrated, but 3T war arc kakashi surpassed many akatsukis sasori included.
 

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This scan shows that at this time he never had a white zetsu body while using mayfly he doesn't need a white zetsu body.

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Your gonna use a sleeping target lol obito awake was able to avoid his kunai with kamui, that still doesn't prove it can hit a flying target in the air

That scan isn't even showing mafly though, seeing as how par of his body was above ground while the rest seeped into madara's grave.

I didn't even mention. Obito.... are you even reading what I'm saying? I said he threw the kunai with enough force to support him and sakura.
 

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I just fail to see how someone Flying on Iron Sand in the air is going to get it hit with a kunai with that some who has magnet release puppet that can control the direction of were kunai can go.

Sasori's can't control other ppl's weaponry. -_-
My argument dosent involve sasori getting hit-_-

What I been saying since day 1.

Kakashi uses lightning kunai to disconnect sasori from the third.
 
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Sasori's can't control other ppl's weaponry. -_-
My argument dosent involve sasori getting hit-_-

What I been saying since day 1.

Kakashi uses lightning kunai to disconnect sasori from the third.

Naa sasori never showed he can change the direction of iron/metal things by using magnet force with the 3 kazekage, i think magnet release means the user controls some sort of metal (iron,gold...) and controls the shape of this special metal.
There are different sorts of users like gaaras dad who can control the shape of gold.
I would even say gaaras sand release is also a sort of magnet release.

Kakashi isnt stupid he knows that the 3 kazekage is sasoris most powerful weapon, if he gets behind the puppet he can cut the chakra strings with raikir making the 3 kazekage useless, right after that kakashi destroys the kazekage with one blow.
When sasori activates his 100 puppets it would be a waste of chakra getting behind every single puppet to cut the strings.
Instead of that kakashi will spam ration kunais/shurikans which blitzed opponents like obito and deva pain in the past.
I don't see the puppets dodging this and 1 kunai is able to cut through multiple puppets, if kakashi uses shurikans he can even influence the direction of the shurikans with strings.
He is able to control wires


I don't know why kakashi is so underrated, but 3T war arc kakashi surpassed many akatsukis sasori included.

Sasori can use Magnet Realease to control them

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Sasori's Aerial Capabilities

Althought this shouldn't be doubted anymore, some people still believe that Sasori can't fly so I might as well make this exploit. As we know, Sasori can create any shape out of the Satetsu that he desires. [ ] And we have also seen that the Satetsu can fly. [ ] Sasori even created Satetsu Wings for the Sandaime Kazekage. All Sasori has to do here is create a Satetsu Block, stand on it and fly off. Or he can perhaps make a Satetsu Bird similiar to Deidara's C1 Bird. [ ] Furthermore let's take a look at this right here.

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As stated above, the Satetsu can be changed into any form that can suit the situation. If Sasori up against flying opponents or if he is up against someone who is dangerous on the ground, Sasori will without a doubt create a Satetsu Bird or some other Satetsu shape and fly off. Now since I have established how Sasori can fly, the only thing that is left is to establish how fast would Sasori be exactly. In all honesty, in the air, Sasori would be faster than other aerial shinobi we have seen in the manga up until now. The ones that are extremely fast in air are without a doubt Deidara and Ohnoki, who was flying, they can probably keep up with him. [ ] However Sasori is faster than both of them. It has been stated that Sasori is the one who decides on how fast the Satetsu will be by using the Sandaime's magnetism. [ ] Nothing stops him from making Satetsu even faster. Not to mention that in the manga, Sasori's Satetsu has already shown the speed of great magnitude .

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To furthermore assure his own safety, Sasori will proceed to cover himself in Satetsu no Yoroi.

Satetsu no Yoroi


Now to start off, what do I mean by ''Satetsu no Yoroi''? Simple. I mean that Sasori can do the same thing Gaara does with his normal Sand. He can basically copy Gaara's Suna no Yoroi [ ] with his Satetsu since as we know Sasori can make any shape out of the Satetsu he wants [ ], including a Satetsu no Yoroi. To understand how the technique works, let's look at it's description.



Looking at the weaknesses of the Sand no Yoroi we could conclude that if Sasori uses a Satetsu no Yoroi, it will gain the same exact weaknesses. However, unlike Gaara, Sasori's own body backs up for these weaknesses. The Satetsu no Yoroi may be heavy and need a lot of Chakra, but Sasori is a puppet so he won't have any stamina problems nor will he have any probably moving with the Satetsu no Yoroi due to the fact that he is a Puppet so weight won't effect his body that much. Now how does the Satetsu no Yoroi help Sasori in battle and why would he wear Satetsu no Yoroi? Simple. Satetsu no Yoroi can serve as an another shield if someone happens to come close to Sasori's body or if against certain opponents , he won't be in danger that much since Kakashi wouldn't be able to properly subdo him due to the Satetsu no Yoroi thatand long distance positions in in flight air. he has option of shielding himself, he can just shed that layer of Satetsu and put up a new one. Also the Satetsu no Yoroi would to it's job defending his core. And as for the reason why would he wear a Satetsu no Yoroi; Well if Sasori decides that the opponent he is fighting against is dangerous there is no doubt that Sasori would put up Satetsu no Yoroi since as stated in the Databook, Sasori prefers to fight in a position where he is safe [ ] and Satetsu no Yoroi will furthermore secure his safety.

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Basically this will greatly improve the defenses of Sasori himself and his core. Gaara was able to tank a direct hit from Lee and all that hit managed to do was crack Gaara's Suna no Yoroi while Gaara himself didn't recieve any damage at all. [ ][ ][ ] That's not all. Gaara was even able to tank a hit from Lee's foot with Suna no Yoroi which left only a scratch on it. [ ][ ] Not to mention that in Part Two, Gaara's Suna no Yoroi was able to tank a direct hit from Deidara's C1 bombs even thought Gaara fell unconcious. [ ][ ][ ] Considering that Satetsu is harder than normal Sand [ ], Satetsu no Yoroi should be able to tank even more powerful techniques. And of course, if Satetsu no Yoroi gets cracked, all Sasori has to do is reform it. [ ]

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Keep in mind that Sasori can use Satetsu no Yoroi to defend his Sandaime Kazekage Puppet as well and since he is a Puppet, he won't have any Chakra problems. Not to mention that this would be a good defense for his core.


Now Kakashi won't have a chance of getting to Sasori anymore cutting his chances real real slim Sasori's defense here:

  • Sasori will be flying so Kakashi can't even reach him.
  • Kakashi will know about Sasori's core because of the sharingan but he will still be at a disadvantage because of the long range Sasori perfers, Things like it won't affect his body due to the fact that even Sakura's punch couldn't break Sasori's body. [ ] [ ][ ][ ]But seeing has as Kakshi has a Sharingan he'll know were to target but Long Range fighters know to keep there distance
  • Satetsu no Yoroi, being made out of iron, will save Sasori from Kakshi's attacks like Taijutsu , all Sasori has to do is harden the Satetsu no Yoroi and it will tank it. Sasori can harder the Satetsu no Yoroi in a second. [ ]



This would be nice and all, but the Sandaime's Magnetism controls metallic weapons so Sasori can control and Kakashi Kunai. [ ] .

Sasori = Gaara in a desert


Over my time on the Versus section, I have seen that people tend to underestimate Sasori because they imply that he has a small amount of Satetsu. That's also the main reason why he is underestimate in Sasori vs. Gaara threads. What I would like to say is that Sasori can expand his amount of Satetsu whenever he wants and make himself basically an advanced Gaara in the desert. To explain how I came to this conclusion, first off let's look at the amount of Satetsu that came out of the Sandaime Kazekage's mouths.

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When we look at the amount of Satetsu, we can come to a conclusion that the amount of Satetsu present there isn't even bigger than the Sandaime Kazekage Puppet. Looking at an another manga page, we can see that it was barely as big as Sasori himself. [ ] That shouldn't be very impressive since Sasori isn't really tall. Just look at what wiki says on how tall he is.



Even people like Naruto are taller than him. Since the Satetsu that came out of the Kazekage's isn't really any bigger than him, it means that it shouldn't have been able to create some huge Satetsu stuff. The biggest Satetsu attack that amount of Satetsu could have created is Satetsu Shigure. [ ] And yet, when we look at Sasori's next attack.

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The Satetsu Triangle, Rectangle and Wings now all happen to be bigger than the Sandaime Kazekage Puppet itself while previously when the Satetsu came out of the Kazekage's mouths, the Satetsu wasn't even as big as the puppet and it barely was as big as Sasori himself. This means that Sasori indeed did expand the amount of his Satetsu via Magnetic Fields of the Sandaime Kazekage Puppet. And that's not all. What happened when Sasori decided to end the battle, he used Satetsu Kaihou which was basically able to cover the whole cave except some parts. [ ][ ] You can conclude that by seeing what Sakura said. ''It's going everywhere!''. And back when we look at the Satetsu Wings, Triangle and Rectangle, we can see that those Satetsu shapes were barely as big as a small part of the cave [ ] so what happened here extacly. How did Sasori get an amount of Satetsu that could cover almost the whole cave? Simple. He expanded the amount of Satetsu again.

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And of course, I'm not done. Furthermore, to completely back up my claims, let's look at the Satetsu that came out of the Sandaime Kazekage's mouths again. [ ] And then let's look at what happened once the Sandaime Kazekage was destroyed. All of the Satetsu that was used for Satetsu Kaihou started turning into normal Iron Sand again. [ ] Where did all of this Iron Sand come from when Sasori didn't have this much when it first came out which means that it should be fairly obvious that Sasori generates and expands more Satetsu via the Sandaime's Magnetic Field.

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A wave of Satetsu falling down and when we compare it to the amount of Satetsu that came out of the Sandaime's mouths, you'll see that there is a lot more Satetsu now since that whole wave could basically envelope Sakura. And furthermore, when we look at the Satetsu once it has fallen down on the ground and compare it to Chiyo and Sakura, we could basically see a lake of Satetsu in which they could even take a bathe in.

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Conclusion and clearing up some misconceptions:

Sasori is basically a Gaara in a desert with all of this explained, just with faster, harder and poisonous sand. He could create attacks like Sand Tsunami [ ] or call it Satetsu Tsunami if you wish, and etc. Some may say that it takes time for Sasori to do things like these and that the Satetsu won't contain poison after he does this, but this isn't true. Sasori can make Satetsu faster whenever he wants [ ] so it doesn't take that much time and it will still contain poison as seen when Sasori expanded the amount of his Satetsu and then poisoned Sakura with that Satetsu. [ ]

To ATD I'm not underrating Kakashi he has skills in aspect in timing techinques sure he's better then Sasori at it but deadly matters because of Poison dipp any every technique you have , meaning you have to dodge every single last attack.

That scan isn't even showing mafly though, seeing as how par of his body was above ground while the rest seeped into madara's grave.

I didn't even mention. Obito.... are you even reading what I'm saying? I said he threw the kunai with enough force to support him and sakura.

Dude that mayfly technique we just know that Black Zetsu has a way to expand body parts that's all

There's 10 Chakra strings he leaves tied he keeps strapped on 3rd Kazekage puppets he'd have a hardtime hitting all 10 plus flying on iron sand makes it much difficulty with Magnetism redirecting ninja tools like kunais
 

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LoL come on, even fanfiction Satetsu no Yoroi brought up here? Must as well say that Kakashi wins because he has 1000 jutsu.

On topic, Kakashi blitzes with Raikiri. GG.
 

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I really don't feel like countering fanfic. Giving the 3rd Kazekage Garra's jutsu is just ridiculous.
 
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LoL come on, even fanfiction Satetsu no Yoroi brought up here? Must as well say that Kakashi wins because he has 1000 jutsu.

On topic, Kakashi blitzes with Raikiri. GG.
Being able to manipulate iron sand to any shape or form for the purpose of offensive & defensive attack it's fact not opinion iron sand barrage gg

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I really don't feel like countering fanfic. Giving the 3rd Kazekage Garra's jutsu is just ridiculous.

Being able to manipulate iron sand to any shape or form for the purpose of offensive & defensive attack it's fact not opinion
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Being able to manipulate iron sand to any shape or form for the purpose of offensive & defensive attack it's fact not opinion iron sand barrage gg

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Being able to manipulate iron sand to any shape or form for the purpose of offensive & defensive attack it's fact not opinion
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The fact that it's a jutsu negates that. Not to mention it's a tailed beast skill specific to the tanooki. It's like saying cuz garra can control sand he can use onnoki's earth golem.

It's fanfic at best.
 
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The fact that it's a jutsu negates that. Not to mention it's a tailed beast skill specific to the tanooki. It's like saying cuz garra can control sand he can use onnoki's earth golem.

It's fanfic at best. .

Iron Sand can be change shape manga fact.


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If he wants it as a shape of a shield to block he has access to it
 

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Iron Sand can be change shape manga fact.


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If he wants it as a shape of a shield to block he has access to it

Keep telling yourself that.

I'll indulge you. Only for 1 post. Let's say he does it. He covers the third and himself in iron sand. A psedo Satetsu no Yoroi if you will.

Flaw 1. Since its not the real Satetsu no Yoroi he'd lose the ability of sight that come with the actual justu, since after all the San covers the entire body.
Flaw 2. Despite your claim of him being the fastest in the air extreme speeds were only shown when he dropped the size of the sand down to mere pellets ( as shown in the scan you provided). In normal instances(same goes for the original technique as well) the armor would slow down the user due to its weight. This goes double for both him and the third since iron is roughly twice as heavy and standard sand.
Flaw 3. Despite it being denser than sand raikiri (heck even chidori) already shown to rip through the likes of Iron and sand alike so it's use in this matchup is pointless and a waste of chakra.

But alas his ability to do something like that is fanfiction at best since the only thing he was able to do was imitate the beast. Nothing leads me to believe he has that technique. Let alone have it at the same level as the original user.

Now most of your argument revolves around him flying away from kakashi via this bs (despite him starting in hiruko) under the assumption that kakashi can't follow him up there. The only thing restricted is kamui snipe. He can easily use kamui to warp up there and cut the chakra strings manually if need be( raikiri Kunai would get the job done but whatever) thus sasori (since he's flying via iron sand) and the third (also flying via iron sand) would just fall out the sky. Kakashi destroys it on the way down. Back to square 1.
 

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How is Kakashi dodging 100 different puppets, or countering Iron Sand World Method...not to mention one scratch and it's over for Kakashi. to be quite honest with you I think Sasori low diffs but I expect most people to say Kakashi since he's a fan favorite.

Er, no.

Kakashi is a strategist with a varied arsenal and ability. His intellect alone is on-par with Shikamaru and once Sasori comes out to play, he'll quickly realize that the heart is his weak point.

He'd then make a strategy and make Sasori look derp.
 
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