War Arc Kakashi vs Sasori

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Sasori wins scenario 1 mid diff and loses scenario 2 high diff.
 

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Like I've stated a Iron Sand Spiked Sphere Shield he's not getting threw without get cut, Sasori with a small amount of iron sand was able to Surround the 3rd Kazekage puppet as you seen above. A larger scale of Iron Sand like the 3rd pic he would have a wider around array attempting to move around near that can get you cut or injuried by Iron Sand with the being able to ride on iron sand he'll have a arieal advantage and harder to reach.

i dont understand you sorry, do you mean he will cover the 3 maze kage in ironsand like a shield ?
Gets cut by raiden.
Or do you mean he surrounds the 3 kazekage with small iron sand missiles also as a shield ?
still gets cut with raiden
or do you mean that he covers the whole ground with iron sand like a little lake which doesn't allow kakashi to go underground ?
raiden still cuts the 3 kazekage

It doesn't really makes sense to discuss about all that because kakashis raiton > sand,earth,iron,diamond...
 
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i dont understand you sorry, do you mean he will cover the 3 maze kage in ironsand like a shield ?
Gets cut by raiden.
Or do you mean he surrounds the 3 kazekage with small iron sand missiles also as a shield ?
still gets cut with raiden
or do you mean that he covers the whole ground with iron sand like a little lake which doesn't allow kakashi to go underground ?
raiden still cuts the 3 kazekage

It doesn't really makes sense to discuss about all that because kakashis raiton > sand,earth,iron,diamond...

Do you see Sasori with his 3rd kazekage puppet how he surrounds it with iron sand 1st pic if he uses a larger amount if of spiked shaped ones around him with sasori with a wide range ridin on iron sand if he reaches in hes getting cut and poisoned.
 

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Like I've stated a Iron Sand Sphere Shield he's not getting threw without get cut, Sasori with a small amount of iron sand was able to Surround the 3rd Kazekage puppet as you seen above. A larger scale of Iron Sand like the 3rd pic he would have a wider around array attempting to move around near that can get you cut or injuried by Iron Sand like I've stated calling something nothing pitful about it.

Sasori can use Magnet Realease to control them

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Sasori's Aerial Capabilities

Althought this shouldn't be doubted anymore, some people still believe that Sasori can't fly so I might as well make this exploit. As we know, Sasori can create any shape out of the Satetsu that he desires. [ ] And we have also seen that the Satetsu can fly. [ ] Sasori even created Satetsu Wings for the Sandaime Kazekage. All Sasori has to do here is create a Satetsu Block, stand on it and fly off. Or he can perhaps make a Satetsu Bird similiar to Deidara's C1 Bird. [ ] Furthermore let's take a look at this right here.

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As stated above, the Satetsu can be changed into any form that can suit the situation. If Sasori up against flying opponents or if he is up against someone who is dangerous on the ground, Sasori will without a doubt create a Satetsu Bird or some other Satetsu shape and fly off. Now since I have established how Sasori can fly, the only thing that is left is to establish how fast would Sasori be exactly. In all honesty, in the air, Sasori would be faster than other aerial shinobi we have seen in the manga up until now. The ones that are extremely fast in air are without a doubt Deidara and Ohnoki, who was flying, they can probably keep up with him. [ ] However Sasori is faster than both of them. It has been stated that Sasori is the one who decides on how fast the Satetsu will be by using the Sandaime's magnetism. [ ] Nothing stops him from making Satetsu even faster. Not to mention that in the manga, Sasori's Satetsu has already shown the speed of great magnitude .

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To furthermore assure his own safety, Sasori will proceed to cover himself in Satetsu no Yoroi.

Satetsu no Yoroi


Now to start off, what do I mean by ''Satetsu no Yoroi''? Simple. I mean that Sasori can do the same thing Gaara does with his normal Sand. He can basically copy Gaara's Suna no Yoroi [ ] with his Satetsu since as we know Sasori can make any shape out of the Satetsu he wants [ ], including a Satetsu no Yoroi. To understand how the technique works, let's look at it's description.



Looking at the weaknesses of the Sand no Yoroi we could conclude that if Sasori uses a Satetsu no Yoroi, it will gain the same exact weaknesses. However, unlike Gaara, Sasori's own body backs up for these weaknesses. The Satetsu no Yoroi may be heavy and need a lot of Chakra, but Sasori is a puppet so he won't have any stamina problems nor will he have any probably moving with the Satetsu no Yoroi due to the fact that he is a Puppet so weight won't effect his body that much. Now how does the Satetsu no Yoroi help Sasori in battle and why would he wear Satetsu no Yoroi? Simple. Satetsu no Yoroi can serve as an another shield if someone happens to come close to Sasori's body or if against certain opponents , he won't be in danger that much since Kakashi wouldn't be able to properly subdo him due to the Satetsu no Yoroi thatand long distance positions in in flight air. he has option of shielding himself, he can just shed that layer of Satetsu and put up a new one. Also the Satetsu no Yoroi would to it's job defending his core. And as for the reason why would he wear a Satetsu no Yoroi; Well if Sasori decides that the opponent he is fighting against is dangerous there is no doubt that Sasori would put up Satetsu no Yoroi since as stated in the Databook, Sasori prefers to fight in a position where he is safe [ ] and Satetsu no Yoroi will furthermore secure his safety.

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Basically this will greatly improve the defenses of Sasori himself and his core. Gaara was able to tank a direct hit from Lee and all that hit managed to do was crack Gaara's Suna no Yoroi while Gaara himself didn't recieve any damage at all. [ ][ ][ ] That's not all. Gaara was even able to tank a hit from Lee's foot with Suna no Yoroi which left only a scratch on it. [ ][ ] Not to mention that in Part Two, Gaara's Suna no Yoroi was able to tank a direct hit from Deidara's C1 bombs even thought Gaara fell unconcious. [ ][ ][ ] Considering that Satetsu is harder than normal Sand [ ], Satetsu no Yoroi should be able to tank even more powerful techniques. And of course, if Satetsu no Yoroi gets cracked, all Sasori has to do is reform it. [ ]

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Keep in mind that Sasori can use Satetsu no Yoroi to defend his Sandaime Kazekage Puppet as well and since he is a Puppet, he won't have any Chakra problems. Not to mention that this would be a good defense for his core.


Now Kakashi won't have a chance of getting to Sasori anymore cutting his chances real real slim Sasori's defense here:

  • Sasori will be flying so Kakashi can't even reach him.
  • Kakashi will know about Sasori's core because of the sharingan but he will still be at a disadvantage because of the long range Sasori perfers, Things like it won't affect his body due to the fact that even Sakura's punch couldn't break Sasori's body. [ ] [ ][ ][ ]But seeing has as Kakshi has a Sharingan he'll know were to target but Long Range fighters know to keep there distance
  • Satetsu no Yoroi, being made out of iron, will save Sasori from Kakshi's attacks like Taijutsu , all Sasori has to do is harden the Satetsu no Yoroi and it will tank it. Sasori can harder the Satetsu no Yoroi in a second. [ ]



This would be nice and all, but the Sandaime's Magnetism controls metallic weapons so Sasori can control and Kakashi Kunai. [ ] .

Sasori = Gaara in a desert


Over my time on the Versus section, I have seen that people tend to underestimate Sasori because they imply that he has a small amount of Satetsu. That's also the main reason why he is underestimate in Sasori vs. Gaara threads. What I would like to say is that Sasori can expand his amount of Satetsu whenever he wants and make himself basically an advanced Gaara in the desert. To explain how I came to this conclusion, first off let's look at the amount of Satetsu that came out of the Sandaime Kazekage's mouths.

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When we look at the amount of Satetsu, we can come to a conclusion that the amount of Satetsu present there isn't even bigger than the Sandaime Kazekage Puppet. Looking at an another manga page, we can see that it was barely as big as Sasori himself. [ ] That shouldn't be very impressive since Sasori isn't really tall. Just look at what wiki says on how tall he is.



Even people like Naruto are taller than him. Since the Satetsu that came out of the Kazekage's isn't really any bigger than him, it means that it shouldn't have been able to create some huge Satetsu stuff. The biggest Satetsu attack that amount of Satetsu could have created is Satetsu Shigure. [ ] And yet, when we look at Sasori's next attack.

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The Satetsu Triangle, Rectangle and Wings now all happen to be bigger than the Sandaime Kazekage Puppet itself while previously when the Satetsu came out of the Kazekage's mouths, the Satetsu wasn't even as big as the puppet and it barely was as big as Sasori himself. This means that Sasori indeed did expand the amount of his Satetsu via Magnetic Fields of the Sandaime Kazekage Puppet. And that's not all. What happened when Sasori decided to end the battle, he used Satetsu Kaihou which was basically able to cover the whole cave except some parts. [ ][ ] You can conclude that by seeing what Sakura said. ''It's going everywhere!''. And back when we look at the Satetsu Wings, Triangle and Rectangle, we can see that those Satetsu shapes were barely as big as a small part of the cave [ ] so what happened here extacly. How did Sasori get an amount of Satetsu that could cover almost the whole cave? Simple. He expanded the amount of Satetsu again.

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And of course, I'm not done. Furthermore, to completely back up my claims, let's look at the Satetsu that came out of the Sandaime Kazekage's mouths again. [ ] And then let's look at what happened once the Sandaime Kazekage was destroyed. All of the Satetsu that was used for Satetsu Kaihou started turning into normal Iron Sand again. [ ] Where did all of this Iron Sand come from when Sasori didn't have this much when it first came out which means that it should be fairly obvious that Sasori generates and expands more Satetsu via the Sandaime's Magnetic Field.

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A wave of Satetsu falling down and when we compare it to the amount of Satetsu that came out of the Sandaime's mouths, you'll see that there is a lot more Satetsu now since that whole wave could basically envelope Sakura. And furthermore, when we look at the Satetsu once it has fallen down on the ground and compare it to Chiyo and Sakura, we could basically see a lake of Satetsu in which they could even take a bathe in.

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Conclusion and clearing up some misconceptions:

Sasori is basically a Gaara in a desert with all of this explained, just with faster, harder and poisonous sand. He could create attacks like Sand Tsunami [ ] or call it Satetsu Tsunami if you wish, and etc. Some may say that it takes time for Sasori to do things like these and that the Satetsu won't contain poison after he does this, but this isn't true. Sasori can make Satetsu faster whenever he wants [ ] so it doesn't take that much time and it will still contain poison as seen when Sasori expanded the amount of his Satetsu and then poisoned Sakura with that Satetsu. [ ]]
Sasori = Gaara in a desert
Sasori = Gaara in a desert


U posted this already. I told you I'm only indulging it once.
 

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Yes lets not forget the part were sakura got pin down, tied up ,shielded an saved countless times with supervision of chiyo an still got scratch up with the posions iron sand without the antitode she'd been playing puppet dress up with Pinocchio

Sakura isn't as fast as kakashi.
Sakura dosen't have raikiri that rips through all of its constructs.
Sakura doesn't have kamui that can be used both to escape and to set up attacks. I already explained the faults behind that sand armour plan and I already explained why it's useless against raikiri.
 

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Like ive already stated a wide range spiked iron sand shield he isnt getting near or getting bypass to cut any string

With kamui he goes wherever he wants. Sasori isn't quick enough to react (got decked and surprised by Sakura all to many times).

With raikiri his constructs get ripped to pieces. Like it does anything else.
 
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With kamui he goes wherever he wants. Sasori isn't quick enough to react (got decked and surprised by Sakura all to many times).

With raikiri his constructs get ripped to pieces. Like it does anything else.

Yes lets not forget the part were sakura got pin down, tied up ,shielded an saved countless times with supervision of chiyo an still got scratch up with the posions iron sand without the antitode she'd been playing puppet dress up with Pinocchio on top of sakura deckin the ground an airin out kakashi. A wide range spikes iron sand shield makes it a no go a no no
 

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Yes lets not forget the part were sakura got pin down, tied up ,shielded an saved countless times with supervision of chiyo an still got scratch up with the posions iron sand without the antitode she'd been playing puppet dress up with Pinocchio on top of sakura deckin the ground an airin out kakashi. A wide range spikes iron sand shield makes it a no go a no no

She's slower than Kakashi and she dosen't have sharingan. So its expected for her to get cut.
It dosen't change the fact that she even without sharingan was able to read his movements.

It dosen't change the fact that sasori hasn't shown reactions quick enough to react to kamui.
It dosen't change the fact that unlike sakura kakashi can rip through it casually via raikiri.

You're not even trying to counter anymore.
 
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She's slower than Kakashi and she dosen't have sharingan. So its expected for her to get cut.
It dosen't change the fact that she even without sharingan was able to read his movements.

It dosen't change the fact that sasori hasn't shown reactions quick enough to react to kamui.
It dosen't change the fact that unlike sakura kakashi can rip through it casually via raikiri.

You're not even trying to counter anymore.
Like ive stated before with a wide range if a iron sand sphere shield riding flying on iron sand the chances are noo noo Sasori would have killed her countless of times if it wasnt for chiyo supervision and interference atempting fir reaching gets you scracth n posioned by the sharp edges of iron sand and wide range blockable for long range. Sakura even still lower then kakashi was able flush him out of the ground (kakashi)with a hit to the ground even th e fact of her being slower even sasori when stated he was using little chakra stated he shoukd use more with the 1st try she was hit. Rip threw a iron sand sphere shield = get cut hello poison
 

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Like ive stated before with a wide range if a iron sand sphere shield
cut through with ease via raikiri.
riding flying on iron sand
delt with via kamui
the chances are noo noo Sasori would have killed her countless of times if it wasnt for chiyo supervision
Kakashi's faster than both and has better reactions than both
and interference atempting fir reaching gets you scracth n posioned by the sharp edges of iron sand
A clone can do it.
and wide range blockable for long range.
No construct can block raikiri, it's hyped to cut through everything. but even if I were to take it with a grain of salt it already cut through iron like butter.

Sakura even still lower then kakashi was able flush him out of the ground
He can go deeper if necessary.
(kakashi)with a hit to the ground even th e fact of her being slower even sasori
Kakashi again faster than both superior reflexes and reactions than both (even in base)
when stated he was using little chakra stated he shoukd use more with the 1st try she was hit.
Kakashi is leaps and bounds faster than her. Even by databook. Then the sharingan widens the gap between their abilities and reaction speed.
Rip threw a iron sand sphere shield = get cut hello poison
He isn't gonna get cut if he's the one doing the ripping.
 
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cut through with ease via raikiri. delt with via kamui
Kakashi's faster than both and has better reactions than both
A clone can do it.
No construct can block raikiri, it's hyped to cut through everything. but even if I were to take it with a grain of salt it already cut through iron like butter.

He can go deeper if necessary.
Kakashi again faster than both superior reflexes and reactions than both (even in base)
Kakashi is leaps and bounds faster than her. Even by databook. Then the sharingan widens the gap between their abilities and reaction speed.
He isn't gonna get cut if he's the one doing the ripping.


Yes a because a clone wont go buff after getting it on as soon as in collides with the outter layer of iron sand spike sphere , defense like that render things useless ridin on top of iron sand foot work has no meaning
 

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Yes a because a clone wont go buff after getting it on as soon as in collides with the outter layer of iron sand spike sphere , defense like that render things useless ridin on top of iron sand foot work has no meaning

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Raikiri cuts through iron like butter. And again he's not aiming for the body but the strings.

Even with 2 tome sharingan sand spikes are dodged with ease.
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Love how you didn't even try to reply to anything else. GG no re.
 
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Raikiri cuts through iron like butter. And again he's not aiming for the body but the strings.

Even with 2 tome sharingan sand spikes are dodged with ease.
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Love how you didn't even try to reply to anything else. GG no re.

LMAO you should keep going on the panel were Sasuke got scratch from that same pic I showered before the databook stated even a scratch is a enough to kill lmao

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Like I stated a wide spread iron spike sphere shield is enough to keep away KO lol
 
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LMAO you should keep going on the panel were Sasuke got scratch from that same pic I showered before the databook stated even a scratch is a enough to kill lmao

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Like I stated a wide spread iron spike sphere shield is enough to keep away KO lol

Sasuke got scratched prior to using chidori. He didn't get scratched when he used it. Not to mention raikiri is stronger.
 
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Sasuke got scratched prior to using chidori. He didn't get scratched when he used it. Not to mention raikiri is stronger.

Wrong Sasuke used his left hand the secong time for chidori and got scratch


1st was a just a punch with his righr hand





Not to mention iron sand is stronger
 

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Wrong Sasuke used his left hand the secong time for chidori and got scratch


1st was a just a punch with his righr hand





Not to mention iron sand is stronger
I was referring to the scratch on his face.
He got the scratch on his hand due to the shikaku, after deactivating chidori.

Iron already got cut through with ease. He did it to Obito's shuriken.
 
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I was referring to the scratch on his face.
He got the scratch on his hand due to the shikaku, after deactivating chidori.

Iron already got cut through with ease. He did it to Obito's shuriken.

Damage was done in the ocassaion of trying to penetrate its still a cut coming full force as you seen regardless, gaara only used a few as he wasnt even in the right state of control at theenmoment ,we seen sasori has done with his 3rd kazekage puppet surround with hundred of pellets but with a larger scale of wide arrange sasuke arms chest and body was touching and if it were the posionous irond sand spike sphere poison will be injected and flying on iron sand woukd also make it diffucult n different. But close range wouldnt be a option
 
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