War Arc Kakashi vs Sasori

[super yang]

Kakashi really is one of the underestimated ninjas on the base, with or without the sharingan.
Nobody has countered my ration kunai argument, multiple ration kunais with high speed thrown by 2 kage bunshins can decimate the whole 100 puppets crew in few seconds with out any chance of dodging them.

Sasoris firestyle is a joke, eraly shippuuden sakura dealt with it no diff with hiding behind a little rock.

theres nothing to counter... just cuz we don't wish to immerse ourselves in ur personal fanfic, it doesn't mean u've proven something...

 

[super yang]

Hiding like mole ducks the first attack and the poison gas, if he gets trapped like sakura (doubtful) he cuts whatever is holding him down via raikiri.
Iron bullets gets blocked by earth wall (tanked raikiri)
The third Kazekage gets separated from sasori via cutting chakra strings (as any other puppet) then gets destroyed via raikiri. Poison coated weapons can be washed via water wall. Kakashi already sidestepped bigger fireballs from obito. Fire jets aren't even a problem. He won't get scratched. That simple. He didn't get scratched despite fighting hidan, and kakazu's masks at the same time while backpacking inoshikacho.

-hiding like a mole? sasori can fly & has the stamina to outlast him
-separate the kazekage? sasori is the simultaneous user or 100 string. cut the downplay
useless fire jets? good luck w/ your signature jutsu, ''rai'ton beast runner'', kakashi~
-wash away the poison? because kakashi is gonna hold off a iron sand funeral tsunami w/ suijinheki. staaahhhp it~

The rest is just useless hype.

oh the irony - '' He won't get scratched. That simple. He didn't get scratched despite fighting hidan, and kakazu's masks at the same time while backpacking inoshikacho''

-if kakashi gets close to him, sasri lynches him w/ 100 chaka strings
- sasori also has poison gas clouds
- sasori has 1,ooo hand manipulation as a surprise 1-shot
- sasori has the 100 puppets to use as well.

..the entire basis of your ridiculous arguments is rooted in ur subconscious & based simply on sasori losing/suicide to the second best puppet user in the manga & plot relevance, or his lack thereof relative to kakashis'

sasor is top 20 imo

 

[EKSITE]

-hiding like a mole? sasori can fly & has the stamina to outlast him
-separate the kazekage? sasori is the simultaneous user or 100 string. cut the downplay
useless fire jets? good luck w/ your signature jutsu, ''rai'ton beast runner'', kakashi~
-wash away the poison? because kakashi is gonna hold off a iron sand funeral tsunami w/ suijinheki. staaahhhp it~


oh the irony - '' He won't get scratched. That simple. He didn't get scratched despite fighting hidan, and kakazu's masks at the same time while backpacking inoshikacho''

-if kakashi gets close to him, sasri lynches him w/ 100 chaka strings
- sasori also has poison gas clouds
- sasori has 1,ooo hand manipulation as a surprise 1-shot
- sasori has the 100 puppets to use as well.

..the entire basis of your ridiculous arguments is rooted in ur subconscious & based simply on sasori losing/suicide to the second best puppet user in the manga & plot relevance, or his lack thereof relative to kakashis'

sasor is top 20 imo

I agree with that part 100%

People always leave out 3 Major Factor in that Battle

1. They had an antidote for his poison ( The moment they got scratched they lost) without him having any knowledge of that from the beginning or any on Sakura.

2. He Let himself get killed (Chiyo admitted to that he could have dodged the last attack)

3. Sasori wanted to turn them into human he needed them alive ,Chiyo stated it that he need the person alive to make them into a human puppet not out of dead corpse

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Sasori would have killed them with ease.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

-hiding like a mole? sasori can fly & has the stamina to outlast him

So wait how does flying stop hiding like mole from dodging his attacks?

-separate the kazekage? sasori is the simultaneous user or 100 string. cut the downplay

I doubt all 100 strings are being used to control 1 puppet. But the fact of the matter is:
A) kakashi can see the strings
B) he has the ability to cut the strings.
So nothing is being downplayed. It's just a very probable possibility.

useless fire jets? good luck w/ your signature jutsu, ''rai'ton beast runner'', kakashi~

I never even brought up that technique. But obito's fireball is bigger that sasori's fire jets. Fact. Yet he side stepped it with ease and forced cqc on obito.

-wash away the poison? because kakashi is gonna hold off a iron sand funeral tsunami w/ suijinheki. staaahhhp it~

it's not about holding it off its about taking away it's lethality. No poison? Then it's just iron sand, and we've seen what raikiri does to iron.

oh the irony - '' He won't get scratched. That simple. He didn't get scratched despite fighting hidan, and kakazu's masks at the same time while backpacking inoshikacho''

I don't see the irony in stating manga facts.

-if kakashi gets close to him, sasri lynches him w/ 100 chaka strings

chakra strings. Lol those strings got cut by basic katana. Raikiri cuts him loose.

- sasori also has poison gas clouds

I already explained how that gets taken care of.

- sasori has 1,ooo hand manipulation as a surprise 1-shot

only via the third Kazekage. And if the third gets disconnected it can't do jack squat.

- sasori has the 100 puppets to use as well.

fodder puppets that got danced on by Sakura.

..the entire basis of your ridiculous arguments is rooted in ur subconscious & based simply on sasori losing/suicide to the second best puppet user in the manga & plot relevance, or his lack thereof relative to kakashis'

sasor is top 20 imo

what? Lol

 

[ATD]

theres nothing to counter... just cuz we don't wish to immerse ourselves in ur personal fanfic, it doesn't mean u've proven something...

thats not an excuse for not countering my arguments

A raiton kunai cut through multiple stone boulders, i see the same happening with multiple puppets and don't forget how well and fast Kakashi can throw kunais.

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here he forced deva path to use ST

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forced a moving obito to activate kamui, obito is by far faster than sasoris puppets, they have no chance of dodging multiple ration kunais.

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Kakashi threw 2 kunais while falling into a sea of lava so fast and powerful that he was able to save obito,sakura and himself.

The puppets are easily destroyed.

This is no fanfic, these are mangafacts.

 

[super yang]

So wait how does flying stop hiding like mole from dodging his attacks?
I doubt all 100 strings are being used to control 1 puppet. But the fact of the matter is:
A) kakashi can see the strings
B) he has the ability to cut the strings.
So nothing is being downplayed. It's just a very probable possibility.

so kakashi will outlast him then?

and sasori can use 100 strings to keep tabs on his puppet...but that's prolly too sensible & unbiased a conclusion 4 U to evencomprehend,,,
your ''probable'' is sheer mad, absurdity.

I never even brought up that technique. But obito's fireball is bigger that sasori's fire jets. Fact. Yet he side stepped it with ease and forced cqc on obito.

so kakashi can successfully pressure sasori or? absurdity ad nausem

it's not about holding it off its about taking away it's lethality. No poison? Then it's just iron sand, and we've seen what raikiri does to iron.

I repeat: kakashi will counter satetsu kaihou w/ suijuinheki? U think he needs poison to kill kakashi?
what? he dodges it?
I repeat can kakashi outlast sasori?

I don't see the irony in stating manga facts.

wll then U don't see the irony~

chakra strings. Lol those strings got cut by basic katana. Raikiri cuts him loose.

because he'll be able to move his limbs? when hes lstringed up by 100 chakra strings?

I already explained how that gets taken care of.

let me guess, kakashi stalls him til konoha plot armor kicks in!

only via the third Kazekage. And if the third gets disconnected it can't do jack squat.

because kakashi can approach the flying, poisoned technodrome to challenge the operator?

fodder puppets that got danced on by Sakura.

the sakura that was admittedly poisoned multiple times off panel? dodging does what again?

your whole argument is absurdity ad-nauseum, like I said

what? Lol

your trite agenda, sir.

 

[super yang]

thats not an excuse for not countering my arguments

A raiton kunai cut through multiple stone boulders, i see the same happening with multiple puppets and don't forget how well and fast Kakashi can throw kunais.

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here he forced deva path to use ST

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forced a moving obito to activate kamui, obito is by far faster than sasoris puppets, they have no chance of dodging multiple ration kunais.

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Kakashi threw 2 kunais while falling into a sea of lava so fast and powerful that he was able to save obito,sakura and himself.

The puppets are easily destroyed.

This is no fanfic, these are mangafacts.

- sasori deflects any kunai w/ his thousands of weapons or just picks 100 of them back up, instantly w/ strings
-there aren't 100 obitos or deva paths. U see in a debate U have to bring RELEVANT points to the table.
-kakashi doesn't need to save obito & sakura ITT
- no the puppets cant be destroyed, they're re-usable as thousands of poisoned swords & kunais. even the disconnected arms...reread kankuro -no reread every puppet panel ever again & take off your blinders
- U still don't understand Irony

 

[ATD]

- sasori deflects any kunai w/ his thousands of weapons or just picks 100 of them back up, instantly w/ strings
-there aren't 100 obitos or deva paths. U see in a debate U have to bring RELEVANT points to the table.
-kakashi doesn't need to save obito & sakura ITT
- no the puppets cant be destroyed, they're re-usable as poisoned swords & kunais. even the disconnected arms...reread kankuro -no reread every puppet panel ever again & take off your blinders
- U still don't understand Irony

i showed this scans to prove that kakashis ration kunai throw is fast and powerful.
There is no way the puppets are dodging the speed and aren't able to defending against/surviving the piercing force.
There chakra weapons are weak

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whats with your 100 obito/deva bs ??
I said that the ration kunai of kakashi was so fast that it stopped obito absorbing naruto and was forced to use kamui phrase, i wanted to show how fast ration kunai throw is, was it that difficult to understand ?
you said I'm bringing irrelevant stuff and you talk about kankuros puppets ? reread the SASORI fight with chiyo and sakura and see how useless the puppets got when they were cut in half.

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while a few shadow clones are handling the puppets with ration kunais/shurikans the original sneaks with hiding like a mole behind sasori and blitzes his heart with raikiri(sharingan will tell him that the heart of sasori contains all his chakra), he would know he has to aim for that weird thing.

 

[super yang]

i showed this scans to prove that kakashis ration kunai throw is fast and powerful.
There is no way the puppets are dodging the speed and aren't able to defending against/surviving the piercing force.
There chakra weapons are weak

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whats with your 100 obito/deva bs ??
I said that the ration kunai of kakashi was so fast that it stopped obito absorbing naruto and was forced to use kamui phrase, i wanted to show how fast ration kunai throw is, was it that difficult to understand ?
you said I'm bringing irrelevant stuff and you talk about kankuros puppets ? reread the SASORI fight with chiyo and sakura and see how useless the puppets got when they were cut in half.

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So basically''kakashi blitzes sasori to stab him in the heart w/ half a dozen rai'ton kunai......because the flying user of 400 hundred weapons & the best weapon user in the manga, can't deal w/ half a dozen kunai projectile weapons''
''puppets r useless when ur fighting a shadow clone user''

I question the sincerity of anyone who isn't insulted by that line of reasoning

while a few shadow clones are handling the puppets with ration kunais/shurikans the original sneaks with hiding like a mole behind sasori and blitzes his heart with raikiri(sharingan will tell him that the heart of sasori contains all his chakra), he would know he has to aim for that weird thing.

'' ...while kakashi clone feints 1oo puppets, the original uses hiding like a mole & blitzes him, because sasori is weak to being blitzed from behind by people that can see his heart, even so that he proudly wears unguarded ''

brilliant deductions :|

edit: I wanna rant some more...

''chakra weapons r weak'' what is ur point? are the weapons poisoned or not? kakashis gonna neutralize every single puppets weapon because? ''because puppets R use less''

derp~

 

[BenjerminGaye]

so kakashi will outlast him then?

No. Any puppets sasori sends down gets disconnected and destroyed. If he uses iron sand then kakashi washes the poison off then either blocks it with earth wall or cuts through it with raikiri.

and sasori can use 100 strings to keep tabs on his puppet...but that's prolly too sensible & unbiased a conclusion 4 U to evencomprehend,,,

chakra strings kakashi can see, track and cut. You're bringing up things I countered on page 1. Keep up.
Absurd? We've seen chakra strings cut by basic katana. Yet you think its absurd kakashi will do the same lmao.

so kakashi can successfully pressure sasori or?

If he pulled it on the more cqc capable obito by dodging obito's bigger fireball. Then y isn't it possible to pull the same on sasori who isn't good at cqc (common with all puppeteers) and has smaller fireballs? Instead of dodging the question prove it's not a possibility.

[/QUOTE]I repeat: kakashi will counter satetsu kaihou w/ suijuinheki? [/QUOTE] it removes the poison.

U think he needs poison to kill kakashi?

yes.

what? he dodges it?

or he blocks it with earthwall. Same wall that tanked obito's shuriken and Kakashi's raikiri. Or better yet he cuts through it like butter.

I repeat can kakashi outlast sasori?

He can but dosent have to. If sasori can't control his puppets since he's been cut off from them how will he fight?

wll then U don't see the irony~

There's no irony in manga fact.

[/QUOTE] because he'll be able to move his limbs? when hes lstringed up by 100 chakra strings?[/QUOTE] strings that get cut by basic katana. He needs 0 handseals to activate raikiri and if his arm can move then the strings ate getting cut. Simple.

let me guess, kakashi stalls him til konoha plot armor kicks in!

bruh. Stay the fck on topic.

because kakashi can approach the flying, poisoned technodrome to poison the operator?

and how is he poisoning the operator? What ? I already explained how poison is already delt with. As for the sand it self cut the strings controlling the puppet then the sand constructs, and the puppet falls out of the sky. Or kakashi destroys the puppet and gets the same result.

the sakura that was admittedly poisoned multiple times off panel?

by Feats, hype and databook he's leagues faster than sakura.

dodging does what again?

keeps him alive?

your whole argument is absurdity ad-nauseum, like I said

If you're growing tired of my argument counter it. Stop *****ing.

your trite agenda, sir.

your baseless opinion.

 

[super yang]

I stopped after reading that fighting obito in CQC means something against freaking sasori?

U give nothing to counter, saying kakashi can cut strings is beside the point of whether he can stop the tactical blitz.
U cant destroy the puppets, either sasori bets impatient or switches tool or he picks them back up
U say stay on topic but U don't say how kakashi can even get near him w/o ignoring what sasori is capable of mobility, defense & multitask-wise
U tell me to disprove posiiibilities, while ignoring plausibilities, which ur blind to because ur biased.
u say dodging keeps him alive, but U say he doesn't need to outlast him
U keep saying kakashi ''washes the poison away'' but ignore the AoE of Iron sand or that it can skewer him.

U can't actually make any points that need to be countered

 

[Hagoromo Reanimation]

Actually it was only two. Deidara's first high speed guided missile and Sasuke's chidori sharp spear.

2 attack to set up well over 50 bombs? That's speed.

they was big 3 explosions, smoke clearing Sasuke uses chidori deidara jumping soar flying on his clay dragon and Sasuke had enough time to run around and use his Curse mark that more then enough time.


Still riding Flying with Iron Sand I see no way for Kakashi to reach him.

 

[ATD]

So basically''kakashi blitzes sasori to stab him in the heart w/ half a dozen rai'ton kunai......because the flying user of 400 hundred weapons & the best weapon user in the manga, can't deal w/ half a dozen kunai projectile weapons''
''puppets r useless when ur fighting a shadow clone user''

I question the sincerity of anyone who isn't insulted by that line of reasoning

you didnt get it, its the way kakashi throws kunais, fast and powerful, one kunai will probably cut through 5 puppets together with there weak chakra weapons. Kakashis clones kept up with v2 jins and helped tying manzos hand without getting harmed, these slow puppets are no match for war arc Kakashi, especially not when the latter has the sharingan.
it was stated in the manga that sasori wasn't able to control this much of puppets very well, the first waves are easily defeated with no diff.
Kakashi slaughtered multiple zetsus and dodged multiple mokuton needles by the jubi, 100 weak puppets are childsplay for kakashis shadow clones.
Puppets are useless if they are fighting against shadow clones of a high-class shin obi with the sharingan.
The clones are the better puppets in this case.

'' ...while kakashi clone feints 1oo puppets, the original uses hiding like a mole & blitzes him, because sasori is weak to being blitzed from behind by people that can see his heart, even so that he proudly wears unguarded ''

brilliant deductions :|

There will be an opening when the original can switch with a clone and go underground, sasori is busy with controlling his many puppets he won't notice when kakashi speed blitzes him from underground like he did with itachi early shippuuden (itachi was able to react due to his sharingan was active)

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''chakra weapons r weak'' what is ur point? are the weapons poisoned or not? kakashis gonna neutralize every single puppets weapon because? ''because puppets R use less''

derp~

i don't know whats wrong with you, but raikiri cut through lightning itself, i don't know why you compare standard chakra weapons to s- rank ration elemental chakra.
only because the weapons are poisoned there is no prove that they will hit kakashi/his clones who has many ways to dodge all of sasoris weapons.
Mud wall,hiding like a mole, water barrier, sharingan preview, dodging with speed or defending himself with a kunai....

 

[super yang]

you didnt get it, its the way kakashi throws kunais, fast and powerful, one kunai will probably cut through 5 puppets together with there weak chakra weapons.

is saasori allowed to move his puppest or attack in the fight or...?

Kakashis clones kept up with v2 jins and helped tying manzos hand without getting harmed, these slow puppets are no match for war arc Kakashi, especially not when the latter has the sharingan.

so sharingan cures poison? kakashi will blitz 100 puppets?...or do they have to line up & let themselves be blitzed 1 by 1?

it was stated in the manga that sasori wasn't able to control this much of puppets very well, the first waves are easily defeated with no diff.
Kakashi slaughtered multiple zetsus and dodged multiple mokuton needles by the jubi, 100 weak puppets are childsplay for kakashis

& the fewer that remain, the greater the control becomes, is what comel later which categorically precludes kakashi from blitzing sasori, w/o chiyo to help him
sasori conquered a country w/ corpses, electric kunai & talking French bulldogs R childsplay to him

Puppets are useless if they are fighting against shadow clones of a high-class shin obi with the sharingan.
The clones are the better puppets in this case.

No, the sharingan is useless against a poisoned hailstorm

There will be an opening when the original can switch with a clone and go underground, sasori is busy with controlling his many puppets he won't notice when kakashi speed blitzes him from underground like he did with itachi early shippuuden (itachi was able to react due to his sharingan was active)

and kakashi wont otice when hegets poisoned by a gas bomb a needle from behind or a rogue chakra string trap

i don't know whats wrong with you, but chidori cut through lightning, i don't know why you compare standard chakra weapons to s- rank ration elemental chakra.

where did I compare weapons?

only because the weapons are poisoned there is no prove that they will hit kakashi/his clones who has many ways to dodge all of sasoris weapons.

there s no proof that kakshi will hit sasori, he can fly, fight indefinitely, wield 400 swords, summon 1,00 animate prosthetic limbs, camp in poison clouds, & create a 5-story squared meteorite

Mud wall,hiding like a mole, water barrier, sharingan preview, dodging with speed or defending himself with a kunai....

derp~

 

[ATD]

is saasori allowed to move his puppest or attack in the fight or...?

Are you wanna get taken serious ? than stop making stupid questions.
The speed of the puppets is not comparable to the speed of kakashi throwing kunais and if they are infused with raikiri they will take out multiple puppets, you are very slow.

so sharingan cures poison? kakashi will blitz 100 puppets?...or do they have to line up & let themselves be blitzed 1 by 1?
& the fewer that remain, the greater the control becomes, is what comel later which categorically precludes kakashi from blitzing sasori, w/o chiyo to help him
sasori conquered a country w/ corpses, electric kunai & talking French bulldogs R childsplay to him
No, the sharingan is useless against a poisoned hailstorm

Dont invent BS, never talked about sharingan cures poison, what the hell is wrong with you ?
Kakashis clones (maybe 2 or 3) will dodging the attacks of those puppets, they will attack them with ration infused weapons which are able to cut throw multiple puppets along with their fodder weapons.
The puppets of chiyo cut through the puppets with ease, you can't tell me you think chiyos puppets are faster than kakashis clones...

and kakashi wont otice when hegets poisoned by a gas bomb a needle from behind or a rogue chakra string trap

you are contradicting yourself often, you questioned whether kakashi will be able to notice a gas bomb ?
of course he will and he will doge it with hiding like a mole or mud wall.
Chakra string trap isn't working against sharingan like BG said multiple times, but you keep denying that fact over and over again.

where did I compare weapons?

i dont understand your grammar very well, but i think you wanted to say that the chakra weapons of the puppets are capable of defending against ration kunais, which they can not.

there s no proof that kakshi will hit sasori, he can fly, fight indefinitely, wield 400 swords, summon 1,00 animate prosthetic limbs, camp in poison clouds, & create a 5-story squared meteorite
derp~

There is no proof that sasori can fly anywhere without his cable roller in his stomach, his flying range is restricted to that and sakura found the weakinis of sasoris way of flying, kakashi will cut his string and sasori flys against a wall he need the string to reach the place he want to fly to.

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and even if his puppets are using 400 swords, the shin obi alliance used more swords and they still got defeated by madara, you get it ?
The puppets are fodders.
when did sasori create a meteorite ?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

they was big 3 explosions, smoke clearing Sasuke uses chidori deidara jumping soar flying on his clay dragon and Sasuke had enough time to run around and use his Curse mark that more then enough time.


Still riding Flying with Iron Sand I see no way for Kakashi to reach him.

No it was two. Sasuke set off a mine before deidara shot the third guided missile.
If sasuke set a mine off that means they're already set up.



Disconnect him from the third Kazekage and he can no longer fly.

 

[super yang]

No it was two. Sasuke set off a mine before deidara shot the third guided missile.
If sasuke set a mine off that means they're already set up.



Disconnect him from the third Kazekage and he can no longer fly.

no he can still fly w/ his helicopter blades, or is thata filler weapon...?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I stopped after reading that fighting obito in CQC means something against freaking sasori?

Puppet masters suck at cqc. Fact.
Obito's fireball is bigger than his fire jets. Fact.

So if kakashi handled both then why can't he handle sasori in cqc. You've failed to give me a reason or explain why he can't. Sakura flat out decked this guy. But kakashi can't engage cqc? Laughable.

U give nothing to counter, saying kakashi can cut strings is beside the point of whether he can stop the tactical blitz.

the only way sasori can do anything even control his own body is through chakra strings. He can't blitz shit if the chakra strings are broken.

U cant destroy the puppets,

Explain hiruko, explain the third Kazekage, explain the fact that as the puppets got destroyed he focused on the remaining functioning ones.

either sasori bets impatient or switches tool or he picks them back up

no both hiruko and the third Kazekage got destroyed. The irony sand fell apart.

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U say stay on topic but U don't say how kakashi can even get near him w/o ignoring what sasori is capable of mobility, defense & multitask-wise

through clones, and hiding like mole.

U tell me to disprove posiiibilities, while ignoring plausibilities, which ur blind to because ur biased.

I didn't ignore anything I flat out countered them

u say dodging keeps him alive, but U say he doesn't need to outlast him

Because he can attack while dodging, because he can cut off all of sasori's attack capabilities. Because he wash the poison of the weapons.

U keep saying kakashi ''washes the poison away'' but ignore the AoE of Iron sand or that it can skewer him.

None of sasori's attacks is getting past earth wall or following him underground.

U can't actually make any points that need to be countered

here I am countering your points and answering all your questions AGAIN but I guarantee all you're gonna do is *****.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

no he can still fly w/ his helicopter blades, or is thata filler weapon...?

Filler. He had to use his stomach coil move quickly. Like a rubber band.

 

[super yang]

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naw...its not filler.
dude can fly

but since ''kakashi backpacked inoshikacho & fought obito in cqc''
that translates into kakashi, somehow, blitzing him right out of mid air...after disabling every puppet...and clone feinting 12 times...and washing away all poison(where will it go, lel)...w/o even getting scratched...