Ultimate Body vs Ultimate Eye

[To Whatever]

Immortality isn't much of a help against Kyūkon no Jutsu.

How are you going to land Kyūkon no Jutsu. When you don't have the speed or reflexes to react to the body users?

 

[BlacLord™]

How are you going to land Kyūkon no Jutsu. When you don't have the speed or reflexes to react to the body users?

Timing.

You've got all precognition powers; you can time it well. That's how slower opponents fight toe to toe with faster opponents.

 

[Gerkak]

Immortality isn't much of a help against Kyūkon no Jutsu.

That's not gonna work, kaguya's immortality is the same as the bijuu. One can't kill the bijuu with human path.

Hogoromo would have tried that if it would work.

Timing.

You've got all precognition powers; you can time it well. That's how slower opponents fight toe to toe with faster opponents.

Body users have SM sensing.

 

[Stant]

Spoiler

limbo negs

 

[HENI]

Wait, so the eye people dont get their speed and power?


and the body people dont get their eye power?


This is unfair to the eye people..

I didn't list any people. Just their powers.. if all the body powers combined into one person, and all the eye powers combined into another person

 

[Seventh Sama]

I think the eye team wins because they can suck away souls, and send the body users to the acid dimensions, etc. Even with immortality, the soul can be ripped out by Human or Naraka Path.

That's assuming if the body power user just stood there and didn't use tsb to shield themselves. Ameno is a good counter tho. I wonder if yometsu hirasaka is an eye or body power. It's not listed as a doujutsu ability in the db.

 

[HENI]

That's assuming if the body power user just stood there and didn't use tsb to shield themselves. Ameno is a good counter tho. I wonder if yometsu hirasaka is an eye or body power. It's not listed as a doujutsu ability in the db.

Wikia says it's related to Amenominaka, so I assume it's an ocular power.

 

[BlacLord™]

That's not gonna work, kaguya's immortality is the same as the bijuu. One can't kill the bijuu with human path.

Hogoromo would have tried that if it would work.



Body users have SM sensing.

No, but you can seal it away.

The precognition increases with tomoe; there's at least 16 in these hypothetical eyes; the precognition vastly outnumbers the sensing power.

 

[Gerkak]

No, but you can seal it away.

The precognition increases with tomoe; there's at least 16 in these hypothetical eyes; the precognition vastly outnumbers the sensing power.

So does the sensing, unless you are going to tell me that RSM naruto's sensing is the same as when he was in normal SM.

How can one seal away someone with kaguya's body? The only way to seal kaguya is to have both yin and yang power. The sage had both, since the eye team only has the eye power(yin) they can't seal the immortal body user.

Wikia says it's related to Amenominaka, so I assume it's an ocular power.

Wiki assumptions, what source do they use? I think it is best that we leave it as an unknown.

 

[To Whatever]

Timing.

You've got all precognition powers; you can time it well. That's how slower opponents fight toe to toe with faster opponents.

Timing isn't going to work against someone with the ultimate body. Their reflexes, speed, strength, chakra reserves, and sensing is superior to the ultimate eyes.

Just like Lee vs Sasuke. Sasuke saw it coming but could not react to it.


Not to mention the Ultimate body can destroy an entire dimension

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[Nick01]

Body power negs so bad.

 

[LeSauce]

How do rinnegan users have immortality? You realize rinnegan only users like madara and nagato died right?

Body users have all killing bones and yomotsu hirasaka a space-time technique. They are immortal. + speed and power difference is too much for the eye team to handle

Sasuke said Rinnegan could grant immortality. I don't know how, but he implied it was thanks to the Rinnegan in VIZ.


None of that matters because Kamui wrecks. That doesn't say it's a body power, nor does it say it's an eye power. However, given that it's connected to the dimensions it's safe to assume it's part of RinneSharingan.

They could react and use their S/T, just like Kaguya did. Naruto is the one with the highest speed and she reacted to him using S/T.

Body powers have no counter to IT.

 

[HENI]

Sasuke said Rinnegan could grant immortality. I don't know how, but he implied it was thanks to the Rinnegan in VIZ.


None of that matters because Kamui wrecks. That doesn't say it's a body power, nor does it say it's an eye power. However, given that it's connected to the dimensions it's safe to assume it's part of RinneSharingan.

They could react and use their S/T, just like Kaguya did. Naruto is the one with the highest speed and she reacted to him using S/T.

Body powers have no counter to IT.

You're right, Rinne Sharingan is what opens portals to those 6 dimensions.

 

[HENI]

Body power negs so bad.

Infinite Tsukuyomi says hi

 

[Gerkak]

Sasuke said Rinnegan could grant immortality. I don't know how, but he implied it was thanks to the Rinnegan in VIZ.


None of that matters because Kamui wrecks. That doesn't say it's a body power, nor does it say it's an eye power. However, given that it's connected to the dimensions it's safe to assume it's part of RinneSharingan.

They could react and use their S/T, just like Kaguya did. Naruto is the one with the highest speed and she reacted to him using S/T.

Body powers have no counter to IT.

Sasuke said through a number of means, he even mentioned transmigration, the rinnegan on its own doesn't grant immortality.

Kamui wrecks nothing if the eye goes blind without body power, not to mention eye users won't have the speed to keep up with the body users.

It isn't related to the dimensions, it is a rift in space that allows kaguya to teleport. The technique that involves dimensions is amenominika. The manga nor the data book make any connection between this technique and amenominika. Infact yomotsu was described as the first S/T ninjutsu which meant it came before amenominika and suggests kaguya had it long before she ate the fruit.

How can they react when they are slow, you realize that kaguya was fast due to body power right?

Body users can obliterate dimensions, what chance is there to use IT when the moon can be one shotted with ease

 

[HENI]

Sasuke said through a number of means, he even mentioned transmigration, the rinnegan on its own doesn't grant immortality.

Kamui wrecks nothing if the eye goes blind without body power, not to mention eye users won't have the speed to keep up with the body users.

It isn't related to the dimensions, it is a rift in space that allows kaguya to teleport. The technique that involves dimensions is amenominika. The manga nor the data book make any connection between this technique and amenominika. Infact yomotsu was described as the first S/T ninjutsu which meant it came before amenominika and suggests kaguya had it long before she ate the fruit.

How can they react when they are slow, you realize that kaguya was fast due to body power right?

Body users can obliterate dimensions, what chance is there to use IT when the moon can be one shotted with ease

Naraka Path renews your body

 

[Gerkak]

Naraka Path renews your body

Nothing like that, nagato and madara would have used it. Healing can only go so far.

Eye powers don't grant immortalityU_U

 

[Tarinth]

So basically, for the body team, we got an immortal being with abundances of chakra, with the greatest durability
ever before seen in the manga with OP jutsu destructive beyond belief, with speed and reaction unparalleled.

For the eye team, we got a super enhanced fast and strong being, with amazing reactions (Tenseigan grants these
body powers), hax jutsu, and super genjutsu.

IT one shots. However, with IT taken out of the equation, the battle most likely becomes more destructive than ever,
with the eye guy being too hax to be hit and the body guy being too strong to be injured or caught off guard by
the eye guy.

In other words, body guy ultimately wins high-diff due to eye guy getting exhausted first.

 

[HENI]

So basically, for the body team, we got an immortal being with abundances of chakra, with the greatest durability
ever before seen in the manga with OP jutsu destructive beyond belief, with speed and reaction unparalleled.

For the eye team, we got a super enhanced fast and strong being, with amazing reactions (Tenseigan grants these
body powers), hax jutsu, and super genjutsu.

IT one shots. However, with IT taken out of the equation, the battle most likely becomes more destructive than ever,
with the eye guy being too hax to be hit and the body guy being too strong to be injured or caught off guard by
the eye guy.

In other words, body guy ultimately wins high-diff due to eye guy getting exhausted first.

IT and then Kamui Chidori

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

Body wins because the eye users known they will be vulnerable to some type of blindness and so will require the power of SM from the body users.

Then you have TSB which will nullify the doutsu abilities. Immortality is the last factor that gives the advantage to the body users.