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Time to win on Penalties. The elder scrolls have foretold this.
I never have trust in left-footed players on Penalties. It's 90% miss in most matches I see. U_U

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0-0 between Italy-England.

- Anyways, Italy deserved it; though England defended admirably well against a valiant Italy. They purposely tried to go through PKs but it didn't worked well unfortunately.

- The second half kept the end of second-half rhythm; that is in favor of Italy. And that was the case till end of extra-time; where they kept trying to score goals.

- Despite the 0-0, this match was great to watch though. Quite suspenseful till the end with I think the total shots should be 30-10 approximately. So, yeah, 40 shots in a 0-0 - that exists.

- In fact, Italy did all to score. Attacked from center to both flanks. Varied from shot to long passes but none paid. 1 bar, 1 post, 1 offside goal, lots of interceptions and saves by Gerrard, lots of misses and lots of screwed chances.

- England defended a lot. For those bitchin' about it, argue all you want - it's wonderful that they didn't conceded a goal despite 30+ shots probably.

- They also gained some nice chances. Besides the chances in 1st half, they tried certain things. Rooney couldn't smashed a freekick of Gerrard. His 92th minute bicycle kick was mistimed as he kicked it with the tip of his shoe. Young got a shot deviated barely. Oh well...still, Italy dominated them clearly on that fronts.

- I'd get to the players and I'll salute a masterclass player first - Andrea Pirlo! Some wonderful long balls and it's blasphemy that Italy didn't score with such delightful passes. At his age, he ran a lot and dictated his team's midfield. And to close such a great performance, he did a panenka during the shootouts. The class of legendary players. Hats-off.

- Ballotelli missed some chances especially in first half but he stayed in the match and caused certain problems to Terry. De Rossi was very good. Montelivo is a great player and will be a best option in midfield when Pirlo will hang his boots. The rest of the team worked well.

- On England's side, Gerrard was underform and that showed during the whole match. Perhaps, the main reason why England couldn't create chances in second-half. Rooney was extremely average in certain situations but there were certain actions where he showed his class; notably 2 chances. Both player - so crucial to their team spirit - scored during the PKs. And that's good cause England media will have bury them otherwise.

- I talked about how GKs learn a lot and do lots of homework for PKs. We had tow opposing styles of GK today. Hart - who was still gaining information before shootouts and Buffon who is old-school and go by instinct during those tense moments. Buffon won it since he stopped Cole's shot - though it was mostly ill-shot by Cole. But that was some clash of styles. Wasn't that passionating as they didn't stopped much but we can say that veterans thumped the youth.

- Young was disastrous offensively but he did extremely well defensively. He neutralized Abate completely. Damn that he sot onto the bar during the PKs. The 4 defenders and Joe Hart did a great match. The rest worked defensively while Walcott didn't made the impact I was hoping for when he entered.

- I'm disappointed for England but not much cause supporting England was always hope without optimism in my case. Just glad they fought till the end and didn't go out with a 4-0 trashing or didn't crash out in group stages itself. They showed the British spirit to always believe though it didn't favor them this time.

- Both Semis will be great though and very promising. The 4 best players in this Euro right now IMO - Iniesta, Pirlo, CR7 and Schweinsteiger - and they'll get the opportunity to end up as Best Player of this Euro.
 

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BULLSH*T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Greece won entire tournament

though we deserved to lose, I AM SO PISSED OFF
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
well that was 8 years ago times have changed.I found myself applauding pirlos penalty the man is a boss
 

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dude, sorry to ask again, but where are today's memes?
Haha of course, here they are.

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A Totti-penalty style.
*cough*Zidane*cough*

Ashley Cole should have put more effort into that shot

But in the end, the better team won

Germany would've crushed and humiliated England
I hate left-footed players in PKs. Seriously...:mad:

Italy got around 30 shots in this match. It will have been around the same number against Germany.

Exactly that was just a complete pi**take. Pirlo had some nerve but it makes me respect him even more than I already did. Young was terrible, even Milner did a better job than he did and he is terrible but at least he works hard. Not that it would have made a difference as England couldn't string two passes together in that second half but he should have come off IMO
Young was utter shit offensively. Not a single good action where he helped in counters. He was very good in helping Cole on the left flank though and blocked Abate very well. I agree that he should have come off for Chamberlain though.

The few times in 2nd half England passed well, was that 94th minute action; concluded with that bicycle kick of Rooney. I'm sorry that I don't remember much of the passing session since I'm a little disappointed but just don't be too critical of England's style. We knew they'll defend in this match since 2 weeks anyways.

Escorpiius, I am sure you are doing the match analysis, but there isn't any point.

WE WERE F*CKING SH*T!!!!!!!!!
I value defensive football as well as offensive. So, no matter what, I won't bury England because of their style since I knew how they'll play since the beginning and they did good effort to defend, can't take that away from them.

cant believe what i just watch this England team wouldn't even break into the top 10 in the premier league
If Liverpool are in it, they'll break into it. :p

Thank you I was thinking the same thing :D. With Wilshere in the middle, the ball retention would have been better because he is one of the few english players that can pass the ball competently and plays for a team that actually plays possession football.
Wilshere is injured and whatsoever, he can't change a team on his own. England can't play possession football, why are you repeatedly asking for it?

And in case you missed it, England's good defense and few counters and suspense they generated was more entertaining than France/Spain yesterday - two teams who are so greatly acclaimed for possession football but bored us.

Don't know for you but I'm prouder to support England and their style than France sincerely. At least, England fought in team unlike French who wander without team-play and leader.

well that was 8 years ago times have changed.
Tell that to Chelsea..
 

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And this is basically the line up for the Euro semi-finals if you think about they key players. xd

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Well, I couldn't catch Spain VS France, but kept up with it on the radio for a bit, and on my phone reading the play by play, so only have knowledge regrading that, and what highlights I saw, including my friend filling me in a bit. I was at the beach :p

Spain VS France

Well, I'm happy with the win nevertheless. As far as boring goes, well thats defensive football for you...boring.

France shouldn't have gone defensive, especially since they don't have the a good defence to begin with. They will now face criticism from their supporters/media, if they stuck to the tactic they've been playing for the past 20 games, losing wouldn't be that bad, at least people can look at them for trying, but this is a more of the bad way of going out.

I think Spain was disappoint with France, especially since before the game Inesita stated in some plays he saw Barcelona in France, but than they go and do this.

It seemed Spain let off the gas after the first goal, they didn't try to push themselves as much saving the energy I guess.

Regardless France paid their price and now will have to suffer for it, the next big competition comes in two years WC14 at Brasil.

Italy VS England

First and foremost I must applaud Italy. They did some amazing things out there including playing amazing football.

Italy really took the game from England when it came to midfield. In my eyes England had the better strikers and defenders. Where as Italy had the better midfield despite that they came up top.

As my friend said to me, "Italian created defence, you don't think they can play against it? Or defend?"

Clearly Italy had about 35 (20) shots (shots on target) England defence wasn't the best in my eyes were as Hart was key for them. Italy seemed to know there way around that defence England played and were quite good at stopping counters.

Italy had plenty of chances to score, but their striker Cassano/Balotelli screwed up and either missed any good chances. Which in the ran helped out England to stay a bit longer.

Terry/Johnson did make those big stops, which had a big chance leading to a goal, but at the end it wasn't enough.

In all it was really poor finishing from Italy strikers, and some courages saves from Hart that extended this game, so far. England offence was decent, they created a few chance, but just couldn't really get much going throughout the whole game, they really need better offensive players.

Pirlo/Buffon pure class and respect to these two they deserve this more than anyone, even if Italy manages to win the Euros nothing but respect mainly to these two.

On the side note

I would like to send my condolences to Miki Roqué (23 years old), who has been suffering from cancer for about 1 year, and today he lost the battle to it. He still tried playing games despite being sick for Betis this season.

Former Liverpool/Real Betis.

*Moment of Silence*
 
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couting on portugal beating spain in one of the semi-finals :)

next emi-final is germany vs italy:shrug:
your thougts
 

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And this is basically the line up for the Euro semi-finals if you think about they key players. xd

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Teams. - England. Italy
Goals scored. 0. 0
Total shots. 9. 35
Shots on target. 4. 20
Corners. 3. 7
Offsides. 1. 2
Fouls committed. 15. 11
Yellow cards. 0. 2
Red cards. 0. 0
Ball possession. 36. 64

These stats show how horrible england were.U_U Allowing 26 shots before extratime and couldn't hold to possesion for som seconds. U_U
Pirlo was a baws :scorps:

My favourites germany, are still winnin this tournament. U_U
 

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Nice one xd
Teams. - England. Italy
Goals scored. 0. 0
Total shots. 9. 35
Shots on target. 4. 20
Corners. 3. 7
Offsides. 1. 2
Fouls committed. 15. 11
Yellow cards. 0. 2
Red cards. 0. 0
Ball possession. 36. 64

These stats show how horrible england were.U_U Allowing 26 shots before extratime and couldn't hold to possesion for som seconds. U_U
Pirlo was a baws :scorps:

My favourites germany, are still winnin this tournament. U_U
we shall see when my team, Portugal face Germany in the finals. It's payback time
 

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we shall see when my team, Portugal face Germany in the finals. It's payback time
The only team that can beat Germany, is spain. And that's only because they cowarly hold possesion among the xavi and defenders and don't even attack themselves :sy:
Once germany meets any team, the destroy with quick realmadrid style football. No chance for portugal. Especially now that klose will be starting. U_U
 

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The only team that can beat Germany, is spain. And that's only because they cowarly hold possesion among the xavi and defenders and don't even attack themselves :sy:
Once germany meets any team, the destroy with quick realmadrid style football. No chance for portugal. Especially now that klose will be starting. U_U
Portugal did quite well against germany in the first match and we almost won, so don't jump to conclusions that fast
 

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The only team that can beat Germany, is spain. And that's only because they cowarly hold possesion among the xavi and defenders and don't even attack themselves :sy:
Once germany meets any team, the destroy with quick realmadrid style football. No chance for portugal. Especially now that klose will be starting. U_U
Germany try to play possession base football as well, and their ideal example are Barcelona/Spain go read Bastian Schweinsteiger interview were he states it.
 

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Germany try to play possession base football as well, and their ideal example are Barcelona/Spain go read Bastian Schweinsteiger interview were he states it.
Yes they try to play it. Because there are teams like greece and england dat defend with 10 players. But they don't just play boring like spain that pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, and not threaten the keeper U_U
They play the possesion faster like madrid. Quick one twos and more entertaining.
The only thing that makes barca entertaining is MESSI. Everything is boring until messi carries the ball and dribbles past pple. If Germany had a player like messi, they will be the best team without doubt.
Spain play without a striker, but don't have messi to play that "false nine" role for them. So their football is boring to watch and they win 1-0 to win tournaments U_U
 

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*cough*Zidane*cough*



I hate left-footed players in PKs. Seriously...:mad:

Italy got around 30 shots in this match. It will have been around the same number against Germany.



Young was utter shit offensively. Not a single good action where he helped in counters. He was very good in helping Cole on the left flank though and blocked Abate very well. I agree that he should have come off for Chamberlain though.

The few times in 2nd half England passed well, was that 94th minute action; concluded with that bicycle kick of Rooney. I'm sorry that I don't remember much of the passing session since I'm a little disappointed but just don't be too critical of England's style. We knew they'll defend in this match since 2 weeks anyways.



I value defensive football as well as offensive. So, no matter what, I won't bury England because of their style since I knew how they'll play since the beginning and they did good effort to defend, can't take that away from them.



If Liverpool are in it, they'll break into it. :p



Wilshere is injured and whatsoever, he can't change a team on his own. England can't play possession football, why are you repeatedly asking for it?

And in case you missed it, England's good defense and few counters and suspense they generated was more entertaining than France/Spain yesterday - two teams who are so greatly acclaimed for possession football but bored us.

Don't know for you but I'm prouder to support England and their style than France sincerely. At least, England fought in team unlike French who wander without team-play and leader.



Tell that to Chelsea..
England fans are always going to be critical and negative, that's just the way we are xd. We played with spirit and resolve and Johnson had a brilliant defensive performance but we were absolutely dominated.

What I was saying is that we wouldn't have given the ball away as much as Wilshere (I did know he was injured I am an Arsenal fan :sy:) would have played the ball into feet instead of some of the tougher passes others tried to play.

They did try and play the defensive game as everyone predicted but the constant giving the ball away invited more pressure, with a better passer like Carrick or theoretically Wilshere, we would have allowed them to create so many chances. I didn't expect Spain type football but I expected England to be able to string two passes together to relieve a bit of pressure and not give someone as dangerous as Pirlo acres of space.
 

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Well, I couldn't catch Spain VS France, but kept up with it on the radio for a bit, and on my phone reading the play by play, so only have knowledge regrading that, and what highlights I saw, including my friend filling me in a bit. I was at the beach :p

Spain VS France

Well, I'm happy with the win nevertheless. As far as boring goes, well thats defensive football for you...boring.

France shouldn't have gone defensive, especially since they don't have the a good defence to begin with. They will now face criticism from their supporters/media, if they stuck to the tactic they've been playing for the past 20 games, losing wouldn't be that bad, at least people can look at them for trying, but this is a more of the bad way of going out.

I think Spain was disappoint with France, especially since before the game Inesita stated in some plays he saw Barcelona in France, but than they go and do this.

It seemed Spain let off the gas after the first goal, they didn't try to push themselves as much saving the energy I guess.

Regardless France paid their price and now will have to suffer for it, the next big competition comes in two years WC14 at Brasil.

Italy VS England

First and foremost I must applaud Italy. They did some amazing things out there including playing amazing football.

Italy really took the game from England when it came to midfield. In my eyes England had the better strikers and defenders. Where as Italy had the better midfield despite that they came up top.

As my friend said to me, "Italian created defence, you don't think they can play against it? Or defend?"

Clearly Italy had about 35 (20) shots (shots on target) England defence wasn't the best in my eyes were as Hart was key for them. Italy seemed to know there way around that defence England played and were quite good at stopping counters.

Italy had plenty of chances to score, but their striker Cassano/Balotelli screwed up and either missed any good chances. Which in the ran helped out England to stay a bit longer.

Terry/Johnson did make those big stops, which had a big chance leading to a goal, but at the end it wasn't enough.

In all it was really poor finishing from Italy strikers, and some courages saves from Hart that extended this game, so far. England offence was decent, they created a few chance, but just couldn't really get much going throughout the whole game, they really need better offensive players.

Pirlo/Buffon pure class and respect to these two they deserve this more than anyone, even if Italy manages to win the Euros nothing but respect mainly to these two.

On the side note

I would like to send my condolences to Miki Roqué (23 years old), who has been suffering from cancer for about 1 year, and today he lost the battle to it. He still tried playing games despite being sick for Betis this season.

Former Liverpool/Real Betis.

*Moment of Silence*
*Moment of Silence*

You remember asking me once if it was possible to see 2 teams defend in a match and asked me if it would be entertaining? I was skeptical then cause I couldn't visualize how to do that. Well, I got my answer with Spain v/s France. Spain attacked in 20 minutes and afterwards, it was a boring ride.

The thing is that we always view defense as a tactic where players defends in group and do lots of marking ect... Spain just did a defensive match. Only difference, they defend with possession and France defended without possession. And seriously, it's hard to view a match in the whole when a team keeps passing the ball. In case, France defence was more solid, well, this could have ended in a 0-0 and a definite boredom.

But well, anyways, as I aid, Spain are so calm about their force and technique that they didn't got crazy and calmly dictated this match's pace and result from start to finish. It had a match fixing feeling, seriously :p though they are superior.

I'd seriously put a bet on Portugal to eliminate Spain frankly if Ronaldo is in the same form as last 2 matches.

Coming on England v/s Italy, well I agree with you. Though I'll give a little more credit to England for not conceding a goal. It's a pretty commendable thing that they didn't concede a goal while having 35 shots against them. Give the defense some credit; though luck and poor finishing are also a factor.

You're right on Italy knowing how to counter England's defense but it's as I said. You need to vary a lot and shoot a lot from distance. Bayern didn't vary enough against Chelsea and Barca didn't shoot enough against Chelsea. The option is pretty clear-cut. When you have a wall, you try to pierce them with shot but not only that. If you vary with diverse ways, then that wall will hesitate and fumble and we got to see that in actions.

Anyways, congrats to Italy.

England fans are always going to be critical and negative, that's just the way we are xd. We played with spirit and resolve and Johnson had a brilliant defensive performance but we were absolutely dominated.

What I was saying is that we wouldn't have given the ball away as much as Wilshere (I did know he was injured I am an Arsenal fan :sy:) would have played the ball into feet instead of some of the tougher passes others tried to play.

They did try and play the defensive game as everyone predicted but the constant giving the ball away invited more pressure, with a better passer like Carrick or theoretically Wilshere, we would have allowed them to create so many chances. I didn't expect Spain type football but I expected England to be able to string two passes together to relieve a bit of pressure and not give someone as dangerous as Pirlo acres of space.
Actually, we missed loads of passes - be it simple or difficult passes. I'd attribute that to Gerrard and the wingers mainly. They dropped when we really needed them.

Sure, a certain relieving possession will have helped considerably but personally, I mostly regret the poor offensive rendition of Young/Milner/Walcott. Considering we were to play counters, they should have bring certain spark in their game and enable us to counter efficiently. There were lots of counters that didn't pass the center line due to wingers missing their pass/dribble and that pissed me. Oh well...it's done now and I really didn't expect them to pass the Group Stage itself when Euro started to be frank. To say that they reached QF, conceded no goal while having 35 shots against them and loosing on PKs only, I'd take a bit of positiveness in it.

Still, Hodgson needs to go. Whatever small miracles happened in those 2 weeks for England are the effort of players to try to make their country proud. There's not one instant where I felt that Hodgson had a certain tactic.
 

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Portugal has what it takes to abuse both Spain flank, and i hope my prediction for the final come true xd
 
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